HT201250 My 10.7.3 Time Machine won't work with external disks. Worked fine with Snow Leopard, and even Lion 10.7.1
My 10.7.3 Time Machine won't work with external disks. Worked fine with Snow Leopard, and even Lion 10.7.1
I have tried everything, even buy new external disk from different manufacture.
If I cant get a fix soon, I am downgrading back to SnowL.
Still no luck. I tried all the tricks, reconfiguring TM (remove selected disk option, and re-setting it, and trying different disks). Tried new combo updater, and the newer TM update after that. Tired two different disks too (one is my older firewire WD MyBook 1TB, and my brand new 3tb Seagate GoFlex USB... either one plugged into back of computer - no intermediary devices). I did get the TM buddy wiget and it produced the following log, from the last attempt, where I setup lots of exclusions so that backup quantity was small (under 10gb). Still it failed to complete. Here is that log, for what it is worth:
Starting standard backup
Backing up to: /Volumes/TM-Disk/Backups.backupdb
9.56 GB required (including padding), 911.15 GB available
Waiting for index to be ready (101)
Copied 0 files (0 bytes) from volume Mac HD.
Backup canceled.
To prove a point, I will take these disks are run them on my other Tiger and Snow Leopard laptops to prove TM works fine on those with these disks. But I fear the only options are to either have my tech re-install LION... or just have him reinstall SL instead. Im at wits end.
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Time Machine won't back up external drive to Time Capsule
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Pondini, I beseech thee....Time Machine won't back up external drive partitions
Pondini (or anyone else that would like to help),
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If you have any Macs under 90 days old, or covered by AppleCare, a call to them is free, and the best way to get a quick answer (you may have to escalate to a "specialist" however, and it still may take a few days for something unusual). Otherwise it's $50 U.S.
An alternative is to file a Bug Report, per the green box in Reporting a Problem to Apple. That most likely won't get a response for quite a while, though.
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I have my iTunes library stored on an external drive and I want Time Machine to back it up.
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Stopping backup.
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Drives are all formatted OS Extended Journaled
I've run Disk Util on all the drives - no errors.
Any ideas or other things I should try?
If I remove the external drive from the backup, it starts to work again.The mystery deepens . . .
I tried to replicate the problem. Renamed an empty partition from Misc2 to Misc2/test and copied some docs into it and ran a backup.
Sure enough, the message refers to it as Misc2:test and the deep traversal took almost a minute and a half (one folder, 3 sub-folders, total of about 30 items!), but it ran successfully.
So renamed it again, to Music/DVDs exactly like yours. No deep traversal, and it does call it Music:DVDs in the messages, but it backed-up properly.
Perhaps it was fixed in Snow Leopard? Or just another of TM's many little quirks? Perhaps the phase of the moon?
Edit: Some of your posts say you're on 10.5.3, others 10.6.2. Which is correct?
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At least I cannot get it to do what I want. Our MacBook died. Not sure what's wrong but it does not appear to be the hard drive. Also, that drive has not been backed up in a few months.
The main drive is a 320 GB with 246 GB used.
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I pulled the main drive out and put it into a USB enclosure and connected it to my MacBook Pro via USB.
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That will allow you to track the log of TM to see what it is doing.
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HT201250 How do I use Time Machine to back up an External Drive to another External Drive?
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I have two 8TB Western Digital External Hard Drives with Thunderbolt ports. I have already set up a 500GB G-TECH Mini to use as the Time Machine backup for my MacBook Pro. Now, I would like to set up one of my 8TB drives to be the back up for my other 8TB drive, yet I seem to only be able to back up the MacBook Pro with Time Machine.
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My thinking is that if my external hard drive craps out it would be ok because it would be backed up on the TM (what I'm trying to get it to do) How would I open the external drive if it was damaged and then invoke time machine?
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Will time machine HD be picked up on a fresh install on snow leopard?
Hi guys i am going to do a fresh install on my machine. I recently upgraded OS's from leopard using the upgrade install that just wrote over my existing setup. I didnt want to restore from my time machine but just wanted to drag files from my time machine HD manually after the fresh install but im concerned that the HD wont be picked up by the new system.
I just wanted to make sure that my old time machine backup and all files will be seen by the fresh install so i dont loose any data.
Has anybody done this before?
thanks Jamiejamie8286 wrote:
Hi guys i am going to do a fresh install on my machine. I recently upgraded OS's from leopard using the upgrade install that just wrote over my existing setup. I didnt want to restore from my time machine but just wanted to drag files from my time machine HD manually after the fresh install but im concerned that the HD wont be picked up by the new system.
Time Machine puts special "deny everybody everything" permissions on it's backups, and if you copy them via the Finder you may have all sorts of locked file and/or permissions issues with them, especially if you have multiple users. Not to mention the problem of getting everything you need. Complex applications that came with their own installers, for example, will probably have to be re-installed (and any license/purchase keys re-entered).
If you want a fresh copy of OSX, just do the install again. If you want to get rid of old stuff in your user folder, you're probably much better off just deleting what you don't want.
Or erase your disk, install OSX, then use +Setup Assistant+ to transfer the data you want from your backups. See #19 in the Frequently Asked Questions *User Tip,* also at the top of this forum.
I just wanted to make sure that my old time machine backup and all files will be seen by the fresh install so i dont loose any data.
If you replace all the data on your internal HD, your next Time Machine backup will be a full one -- everything on the internal HD will be backed-up again. So it may have to delete a lot of old backups to make room for the new one.
If your TM disk isn't well over the size of the data currently on your HD plus 120% of the data you put back on it, there won't be room for a new full backup. You'll have to erase the disk and let TM start over.
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