HT204053 i am trying to create an account for icloud. i have had itunes for years and am using my apple id. however it is coming back as saying this is your apple id but not your icloud id??? from what i have read this is the same thing. i cant get passed

I am trying to create an icloud account and  have used itunes for years . Therefore have been using my apple id to sign in. Unfortunatly it keeps coming back saying this is my apple id but not my icloud id is this different?
Ive looked at help and it states its the same i have changed my passord several times as i thought it was this. Can anyone please help.??

I've tried both. First, I tried on my pc, where iTunes had installed iCloud when it last updated. I have iTunes installed on this computer (and on my iPad and iPhone), but that wasn't the issue.
So I went online, thinking I needed a separate iCloud Apple ID, but it prompted me for my current Apple ID and gave me the message about my ID being "valid" but not an iCloud account," which, lol, was what it had asked me to do in order to create one. I checked, and at least one other user is having the same issue. I'll attempt to copy/paste the Support request url: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4430653?tstart=0
Thank you for any help you can give.
Trish

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