Hyper-V replica vs Shared Nothing Live Migration

  Shared Nothing Live Migration allows to transport your VM over the WAN without shutting it down (how much time it takes on io intensive vm is another story)
  Hyper-V replica does not allow to perform the DR switch without shutdown operation on primary site VM !
  why can't it take the VM live to the DR ?
  that's because if we use Shared Nothing across the WAN, we don't use the data that Hyper-V replica can and then it also breaks everything hyper-V replica does.
  Point is: how to take the VM to DR in running state, what is the best way to do that ?
Shahid Roofi

Hi Shahid,
Hyper-V Replica is designed as a DR technology, not as a technique to move VMs. It assumes that should you require it, the source VM would probably be offline and therefore you would be powering up the passive copy from a previous point in time
as its not a true synchronous replica copy. It does give you the added benefit to be able to run a planned failover which as you say, powers of the VM first, runs a final Sync then powers the new VM up. Obviously you cant have the duplicate copy of this VM
running all the time at the remote site, otherwise you would have a split brain situation for network traffic.
Like the live migration the shared nothing live migration is a technology aimed at moving a VM, but as you know offers the ability to do this without having shared storage and only requires a network connection. When initiated moves the whole
VM, well copies the virtual drive and memory before sending machine writes to both, then only to the new VM when they both match. With regards to the speed, I assume you have the SNLM setup to compress data before sending across the wire?
If you want a true live migration between remote sites, one way would be to have a SAN array between both sites synchronously replicating data, then stretch the Hyper-V cluster across both sites. Obviously this is a very expensive solution but perhaps
the perfect scenario.
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    we use a two node hyper-v cluster.
    On each node running 5 vm that shared the 64GB system memory.
    The vms are configured to use dynamic memory. The sum of the startup (min) memory of the 10 vms are currently 50 GB.
    So now our problem:
    If we try to drain roles on node A for maintenance purpose two vms are still on node A because they wasted currently each 25GB memory and so on node B is not enough free memory to host this vms.
    That sounds logical
    But as all vms configured to use dynamic memory they should shrink their memory to get enough space for all vms? If we shutdown all vms, move it to one node, then everything works fine.
    Is it by design that live migration do not trigger the vm to shrink their memory?
    Best regards, Alexander Zirbes

    Hi Alexander,
    Dynamic memory means that memory can increase or decrease based on the demand of the VM, not based on the load of the Hyper-V host. If the gust OS of VM dont need that much memory, memory will be released. I dont think live migration has any role shrinking
    the allocated memory of a VM.
    Since you are using two node cluster, you should only load 50% resourses on each host so that incase of a failure of second node, the first node can have all the VMs.
    This calculation will become more effective if you have more nodes. I am having a  six node cluster and I load each host upto 80% so that in case of a single node failure, the VMs can be split on other five nodes without issues.
    Cheers,
    Shaba
    Optimism is the faith that leads to achievement. Nothing can be done without hope and confidence.
    InsideVirtualization.com

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