I have blurry, faded text in Firefox 4 (but not FF 3 or Chrome)

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Here is an example from Youtube. Ever since I upgraded from Firefox 3.6 to 4, my text is blurry and thin and hard to read, it looks terrible. This also happens in IE ever since I upgraded to IE9, but I don't care since I rarely ever use IE.
Out of desparation I installed Chrome just so I could browse without struggling to read text, and the text is clear and perfect there.
Can someone please help me get a usable installation of Firefox again? I love the addons and features of Firefox, but not if I can't READ when I'm using it...

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