I updated the new IOS 4.3.3 on my IPad, since then i Am having trouble accesesing any App. What happens is i cant enter it or other wise it closes as soon as i enter it...i need help solving tris inconvenient.
I updated the new IOS 4.3.3 on my IPad, since then i Am having trouble accesesing any App. What happens is i cant enter it or other wise it closes as soon as i enter it...i need help solving tris inconvenient.
I have the same problem and I haven't solved it yet. On Friday I plugged in my iPad to my work computer after not having done so for quite a while. Today I went onto the work computer and discovered I had not updated iTunes before plugging in the iPad (and which I cannot do without an administrator password). I guess I will update iTunes and try again when I can get the guy to show up with the password. I hope that works. The reset idea does not work on mine.
Was your iiTunes updated before you tried? Have you found any solution yet? Mail and some internet apps still work but games, notes applications, spreadsheets etc. just begin to open and close immediately.
If anybody has answers I'd love to get some clues.
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Please help me!
Novice or not, you takes your chances when you don't do a backup before an update. I rarely backup before an "interim" update, always backup before a major one. No one is going to be able to give you a definitive answer because when a problem happens, it is a random thing.
Since I have automatic iCloud backups going on regularly, I don't worry too much about a random failure. But, that is all it is - a random failure, and there is no way to predict it or to prevent it.
So, I think you will get the same answer from Support or from an Apple Store. Sorry there is nothing more specific, but that's the way it is.....
Cheers,
GB -
Interval Since Last Panic Report: 1428492 sec
Panics Since Last Report: 16
Anonymous UUID: EFBEFC1B-F340-E5EA-010A-B85ECA0492DE
Sun Dec 30 20:22:28 2012
panic(cpu 1 caller 0xffffff7f897aeb25): NVRM[0/1:0:0]: Read Error 0x00000100: CFG 0xffffffff 0xffffffff 0xffffffff, BAR0 0xd2000000 0xffffff80a8132000 0x0a5480a2, D0, P3/4
Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address
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BSD process name corresponding to current thread: WindowServer
Mac OS version:
12C60
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 12.2.0: Sat Aug 25 00:48:52 PDT 2012; root:xnu-2050.18.24~1/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: 69A5853F-375A-3EF4-9247-478FD0247333
Kernel slide: 0x0000000008e00000
Kernel text base: 0xffffff8009000000
System model name: MacBookPro6,2 (Mac-F22586C8)
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com.apple.kec.corecrypto 1.0You don't say what type of Mac you are using. Does this article
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS4088?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
apply to you?
If not, see this article
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1379
and try a reset of your NVRAM. I see "NVRM read error" in your error listing near the top ...
If that doesn't help, try the Apple Hardware Test, which is on your original DVD that came with the Mac or can be run from the Recovery Disk (for a newer Mac).
Before taking your Mac in for service if none of the above works, try booting into safe mode to see if that helps. If it works ok in safe mode, you may have some incompatible software installed. -
I am currently using iphone5 and I updated it last Saturday (August 2, 2014) for the new ios. After a day, the problem came out wherein it is automatically turn off then when you open it, command errors are coming out. I tried to restore it using itunes but error is occurred during the restoration. The MAC specialist I consulted suggested me to trade in my phone but unfortunately I don't have any cash for it. Why is it like that, I just updated the new Ios then all of a sudden I can't use my phone at all... I hope Apple Company can help me, its not any misused problems but a hardware or technical one by Apple.
Yes lucky me . If all troubleshooting has been done in Resolve iOS update and restore errors and if you have at least taken it into a store where they could try a restore themselves then that would suggest a hardware fault with the iPhone.
If you are out of warranty then it is correct that they would quote you an out of warranty service fee. From here it would be a matter of trying the steps above and if you have already tried then doing the service when you do have the cash. -
Siri wont work on iphone 4, so apple updated the new IOS 6 only for iphone 4s n 5 users..... Officially Im Sad
theres nuffin espacial about iphone 4 and 3gs in IOS 6
COPY PASTE FROM http://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/
Flyover and turn-by-turn navigation are available only on iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, iPad 2 or later, and iPod touch (5th generation). Cellular data charges may apply.
Siri is available on iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, iPad (3rd generation), and iPod touch (5th generation) and requires Internet access. Cellular data charges may apply.
FaceTime video calling requires a FaceTime-enabled device for the caller and recipient and a Wi-Fi connection. FaceTime over a cellular network requires iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, or iPad (3rd generation) with cellular data capability. Availability over a cellular network depends on carrier policies; data charges may apply.
Offline Reading List is available on iPhone 4 or later and iPad 2 or later.
Made for iPhone hearing aids require iPhone 4S or iPhone 5.
Panorama is available on iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, and iPod touch (5th generation).
Find My iPhone and Find My Friends enable you to locate iOS devices only when they are on and connected to a registered Wi-Fi network or have an active data plan.
iCloud requires iOS 5 or later on iPhone 3GS or later, iPod touch (3rd generation or later), or iPad; a Mac computer with OS X Lion or later; or a PC with Windows Vista or Windows 7 (Outlook 2007 or 2010 or an up-to-date browser is required for accessing email, contacts, and calendars). Some features require iOS 6 and OS X Mountain Lion. Some features require a Wi-Fi connection. Some features are not available in all countries. Access to some services is limited to 10 devices.
Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. All rights reserved.
Starbucks pass is coming soon.
Some features may not be available for all countries or all areas. Click here to see complete list.
Siri is available in Beta only on iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, iPad (3rd generation), and iPod touch (5th generation) and requires Internet access. Siri may not be available in all languages or in all areas, and features may vary by area. Cellular data charges may apply. -
HT201210 I can not activate my iPhone 3 after I have updated the new iOS software
Please help. I can not activate my iphone 3 after I have updated the new ios software because the activation servers not available
this is the message I get.
We're sorry, we are unable to continue with your activation at this time.
Please try again later, or contact customer care.If your iPhone was jailbroken and unlocked unofficially, it has been locked again. Insert official SIM to activate.
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After installing the new IOS my iphone 4s won't charge and less I restart it. Why is appl this happening? and What is apple doing about this?
The iPhone has a hardware problem - with the battery or something else.
The iPhone includes a one year warranty. If purchased new in October of 2012, it remains under warranty. Call AppleCare or make an appointment at an Apple Store if there is one nearby. -
I have the new iOS 6.1.2 on my iPad. My wifi connects to my home network but keeps dropping it and won't reconnect. Did not have this problem with previous iOS. Apple, you have a quality assurance issue. Don't be like Microsoft where they send out pieces of junk with testing it.
Try the following to rule out a software problem:
- Reset the iOS device. Nothing will be lost
Reset iOS device: Hold down the On/Off button and the Home button at the same time for at
least ten seconds, until the Apple logo appears.
- Power off and then back on the router
- Reset network settings: Settings>General>Reset>Reset Network Settings
- iOS: Troubleshooting Wi-Fi networks and connections
- iOS: Recommended settings for Wi-Fi routers and access points
- Restore from backup. See:
iOS: How to back up
- Restore to factory settings/new iOS device.
If still problem make an appointment at the Genius Bar of an Apple store since it appears you have a hardware problem.
Apple Retail Store - Genius Bar -
Ever since we down loaded the new iOS , my I pad has been crashing, shutting down & freezing ? Can u tell me what's going on.
You may want to try this:
1. Backup iPad
2. Setup iPad as new. Settings>General>Reset>Erase all content and settings
3. Test iPad thoroughly
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I do not like the new iOS 7 system on both my iPad 2 and iPhone 4S. I can not like the way Safari works, I can not see a way to enter name to search for new web sites. Is there a way I can go back to the old iOS 6.1.5 operating system on my devices? Thank you.
I can not see a way to enter name to search for new web sites
Put your search terms in the combined URL and search bar at the top of the browser (exactly the same as you do in most modern desktop browsers such as Chrome, Safari, Explorer). There is no separate search box, just use the box where you enter web addresses.
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I just updated my iPad to the new ios and now it won't let me use iCloud. I have been in my settings and it says I need to agree to the new t&c's but when I click to do it my device freezes. Any Idea what I can do as I can't download new app either
Sorry. There's nothing anyone can do. The current version of the facebook app will not run on 4.2.1. The iPhone 3G won't run anything higher than 4.2.1. You're stuck.
Maybe it's time to buy yourself a new iPod Touch. -
I can not use Wifi at home to download Apps . The screen pop up " can not connect to iTunes Store " ?? I am using iPhone 5 . I used to be able to download any Apps before .
I can not even download the new IOS which Apples sent to my phone to update . ???? Please help !!!
My husband is using IPhone 5 and his phone is fine , he can use WIFI to download any apps or update any software from apple . Does that mean my phone have problem , not my WIFI right ???
Now, I have to use my data plan to download any Apps which waste my money :( Thanks a lot !!Hello phonphon,
We've got an article that can help restore your phone's connection to the iTunes Store while on your WiFi network.
Can't connect to the iTunes Store
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1368
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Why can't I update my 1pad to the new iOS I have a very old iPad is that the problem ?
I am trying to update my iPad to the new iOS but can't get it to download I have one of he first iPads
Yes.
See the chart below to determine whether you can upgrade your device and what you can upgrade to. If you do not have a Software Update option present on your iDevice, then you are trying to upgrade to iOS 5 or higher. You will have to connect your device to your computer and open iTunes in order to upgrade.
IPhone, iPod Touch, and iPad iOS Compatibility Chart
Device iOS Verson
iPhone 1 iOS 3.1.3
iPhone 3G iOS 4.2.1
iPhone 3GS iOS 6.1.x
iPhone 4 iOS 6.1.x
iPhone 4S iOS 6.1.x
iPhone 5 iOS 6.1.x
iPod Touch 1 iOS 3.1.3
iPod Touch 2 iOS 4.2.1
iPod Touch 3 iOS 5.1.1
iPod Touch 4 iOS 6.1.x
iPod Touch 5 iOS 6.1.x
iPad 1 iOS 5.1.1
iPad 2 iOS 6.1.x
iPad 3 iOS 6.1.x
iPad 4 iOS 6.1.x
iPad Mini iOS 6.1.x
=====================================
Select the method most appropriate for your situation.
Upgrading iOS
1. How to update your iPhone, iPad, or iPod Touch
2. iPhone Support
3. iPod Touch Support
4. iPad Support
a. Updating Your iOS to Version 6.0.x from iOS 5
Tap Settings > General > Software Update
If an update is available there will be an active Update button. If you are current,
then you will see a gray screen with a message saying your are up to date.
b. If you are still using iOS 4 — Updating your device to iOS 5 or later.
c. Resolving update problems
1. iOS - Unable to update or restore
2. iOS- Resolving update and restore alert messages -
I downloaded the new OS X 10.9.2 and ever since then my magic mouse works backwards
I downloaded the new OS X 10.9.2 and ever since the upgrade, my apple magic mouse scrolls backwards. I want to scroll up, I have to move my finger down and vise versa/side to side. Is there a way to re-program it? If not, is there a software upgrade, if so where can I get it? Thanks!
Fotwartistry wrote:
I have it set to natural but it's working the opposite.
Actually, that's correct. "Natural" is the opposite of the "normal" scrolling that you would be accustomed to, so it's working just as it should. To get "normal" scrolling back, just uncheck the "scroll direction: natural" checkbox and you should be good.
Personally, I like to have it both ways. The system settings are global and affect all mousing peripherals. I used a menubar app called Scroll Reverser. This allows me to, simultaneously, use the "natural" scrolling with my trackpad (which I've grown to like) and "normal" scrolling with my mouse. -
Ok it's been two weeks and I have not been able to mirror since I updated to IOS 7. I have called the support people with no avail. I was hoping that the new IOS7.2 software would fix the problem but once again I was mistaken... Do any of you know a way that I can go back to the IOS6 system so that my stuff will work?
Thanks, but a I indicated in my original post, I have already tried everything in that KB article. That article doesn't address the fact that I can mirror from an iPad 4, but not from an iPad 2. According to all of the documentation about mirroring, there is no reason why the airplay / mirroring icon shouldn't appear. It's explicitly enabled on iPad 2.
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