IDE Controller Compatibility
Sorry for having to post. I've been searching Google for the answer but haven't found anything promising yet.
I have an old 400MHz "Yikes!" Power Macintosh G4 (PCI Graphics) being used as a small internet server, which suffers from this limit: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86178
If I buy a new PCI IDE controller card, must it somehow be "OS X compatible", or will any such card work to get me around this limitation? I can find really cheap cards on the Internet, but they only mention compatibility with things such as Windows and DOS.
Since PCI and IDE are such standardized items I'm hoping I can simply purchase any card and have it work in the G4.
Adapter update!! I got a SeriTek/1SC1 adapter IDE/ATA to serial it causes kernal panic! I kept having a problem with startup and had to reset everytime, after many posts and switching drives I have narrowed it to the adapter. i even bought a new one and the same thing happened. Just thought I would save someone a few dollars. If you have to read a larger drive and it is IDE/ATA go with the correct card. The serial drive works great!
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Hey folks,
I've posted before and had received very good advice, so I'd like to pick your brains one more time.
I recently purchased a semi-working MDD 2003 model (I'm fairly sure.) with all stock parts and two third party ram sticks.
The seller explained the problem in the e-mail he sent me:
"The machine was working perfectly up until a few days ago after I had installed a 2nd hard drive for the purposes of recovering it's contents, and then removed that drive.
The initial problem started with a kernel panic, and then ended up in the machine not being able to complete a boot (starts up ok but ends always in the Prohibit/Stop sign). I cannot boot from either the HD or the CD-Rom - I can however, boot the drive in Target Disk mode, and verified the HD is in good working order via Disk Warrior and Disk Utility.
At this point, the HD is blown clean to attempt a force start from the system folder on the CD-Rom, but no luck.
Apple thinks it is possibly a faulty IDE controller, or something that got reset incorrectly in terms of the bus chain."
Now I'm pretty sure that I can bypass the logicboard IDE's with a PCI controller and just run the system like that, but that's only if it is faulty IDE controllers. If it's got something to do with the bus chain, well then I'm lost. Regardless, I attempted to start the system using an old hard drive of mine that already has OSX.
The HD was placed in the rear sled first as a master drive, ribbon cable was double checked then system booted up. Well the grey screen and apple appear, along with the spinning cart wheel and this goes on for several minutes. Then the apple is replaced by the white circle with a bar through it, the "prohibit sign". So I then switched ribbons with the one in front, and got the same thing. This process was then done over using the front HD sled, still to no avail. I guess I could possibly avoid all of this by buying a PCI controller or just replacing the logicboard, but I'm trying to avoid those two options right now if possible.
Has anyone ever seen anything like this? Can this even be resolved? I know there are posts about bad IDE controllers, but they really didn't help much. I did a search and ended up getting quotes from the same three or four posts, so I'm pretty much up for anything as this is getting beyond me.
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g4 mdd dual 1.25ghz 256k 1mb L3 ?, 80gb seagate, 1286ram, ati radeon 9000
Mac OS X (10.4)Actually I didn't use the HD that came with the
computer, I replaced it with one of my own, which has
OSX installed.
Ah....that actually may be the source of the problem, depending on what machine your drive came from.
Sometimes you can get away with it, as I did when I moved drives from a single 867 to a dual 1.42.
But...
It is possible your machines are too different, and the lower level things required to startup the system do not exist on the installation on your drive.
At this point I think that getting a pci controller
card to see if it works is easiest.
If my preceeding statement is true, then it is likely that will not work, either.
Thank you though.
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Yes i have windows 7 with a DC7800 CMT and i put in a IDE controller card The IDE Controller card..i put it in my PCI slot and hooked up the ide card to the card and my hard drive and put the 4 pin power cord into the hard drive..i know the hard drive is getting power but it is not showing up in the hard drive secotion of my computer..i have the jumper set to slave since i have a main SATA hard drive as the main hard drive..im using the IDE as a slave for more space..anyone can help that would be great! Thanks
Why IDE hard drive would be my first question, but your needs might outweigh me asking. There is no Master with SATA. A single EIDE/IDE drive is a Master on the cabling. Here is a link to the proper master/slave issue and the location of such drives on the cabling.
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Anyone using an IDE card they can recommend? I'm thinking of upgrading from my older A64 to an Intel quad core, but all of my devices are ATA. The cheap mobos for 775 only seem to have one IDE controller.
Another question I have is whether these cards are capable of doing the normal master/slave configuration for 2 devices per port, or since I guess it would have to be recognized in the BIOS as a SCSI device, whether they can only handle one per connection?
I'd also like to be able to boot from it so I can keep optical drives separate from hard drives, but it's not absolutely necessary. I'd prefer it, but it's not a deal breaker.
I was looking at one of these two:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6815124001
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6816132005
I believe they both use a Silicon Image chipset, which afaik is supported in 2.6.x. Any thoughts or other suggestions?Okay - thanks very much. I already got a cheap one with silicone image chipset, but now I'm having trouble booting it.
With hard disks on the motherboard IDE (I'll call it IDE1) and optical drives on the card, the disk won't boot, either giving a Disk Boot Failure, or VMI hangup.
With the hard disks on the card and optical drives on IDE1, the computer will boot past grub, but then it says it can't find /dev/sda2 and dies.
I booted a Slax CD, and the drives when on the card are mounted as sdex and sdfx. But then grub will not boot no matter what I change the boot line to. I tried everything from sdax to sdfx, it just can't see the partition.
I can boot the computer if I only hook up the drives to the IDE channel and leave off the optical drives. But obviously that is not really useful and defeats the purpose for which I bought the card. :-p I also somehow had everything working at one point with disks on IDE1 and opticals on the card (except the opticals wouldn't boot, which I was trying to fix) but somehow I can't get that back. I've tried every configuration I can think of, cleared the CMOS, reset everything, still it doesn't work. As soon as I plug in the optical drives to the card, it just hangs at that VMI error.
Any advice before I give up on this motherboard and try a better one?
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N/M - I got it. I just had to boot the fallback image and then rebuild the kernel. Now I have the drive on the card booting fine, and it also boots from optical.
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Solaris 8 x86: How to install on disk connected via IDE controller
I have a PC with a Pentium 4 processor and the following IDE disks:
Disk 1 and 2 at the primary IDE bus.
Disk 3 connected via Promise Ultra 133 IDE controller.
I want to install Solaris 8 Intel x86 edition on Disk 3, but the installation
program only lists disks 1 and 2 as locations for install.
Is there any method how to get Solaris 8 installed on Disk 3?
Thank you very much for your help!
ThomasHello Michael,
thanks for the information.
There is no support for the Promise Ultra 133 IDE controller listed.
Also, searching the internet for a private developed driver was not
successful.
Anyway, I have tried to make a test installation on a hard disk
connected to the primary IDE controller and I detected a lot of
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missing or not properly identified drivers.
So I think I have to make further investigations on concepts
how to get Solaris 8 run in the best way.
Thanks again for your help,
Thomas -
Solaris 8 x86: Installation on disk connected via IDE controller
I have a PC with a Pentium 4 processor and the following IDE disks:
Disk 1 and 2 at the primary IDE bus.
Disk 3 connected via Promise Ultra 133 IDE controller.
I want to install Solaris 8 Intel x86 edition on Disk 3, but the installation
program only lists disks 1 and 2 as locations for install.
Is there any method how to get Solaris 8 installed on Disk 3?
Thank you very much for your help!Hello Michael,
thanks for the information.
There is no support for the Promise Ultra 133 IDE controller listed.
Also, searching the internet for a private developed driver was not
successful.
Anyway, I have tried to make a test installation on a hard disk
connected to the primary IDE controller and I detected a lot of
further installation problems with my equipments because of
missing or not properly identified drivers.
So I think I have to make further investigations on concepts
how to get Solaris 8 run in the best way.
Thanks again for your help,
Thomas -
Problems with the IDE controller
I have a Macbook from 2008, I bought it in November 2008 so it is quite an old model I guess.
I've never had a problem with it before and I have both Leopard and a Windows partition. The thing is that the other day I ran an antivirus at my Windows XP partition and now it doesn't detect the IDE controller. At the device manager I get a yellow exclamation mark and when I try to install it says that it doesn't exist. The thing is that I know that I had two devices for that but now there's only one and with the exclamation mark.
Since that happened, the webcam doesn't work properly and the USB ports don't work properly as well, I need to keep restarting the computer to make them work. I don't know what to do since I don't have the Windows XP CD anymore and it's been like years without a problem til now and I'm so so worried since I have to switch OS from time to time because of my job.
Can you please help me? If you need more info I will provide but please help...Yes it shows up in the bios and in the device manager in xp pro.
No I didnt check for a bent pin on the board but I will and let you know.
No it just started one day taking along time to access disk then i started getting bad block messages,
then I changed the drive and still the same thing ,the changed the drive again and again and the cables two times
and still the same thing.I dont know why I didnt think of checking the board for a bent pin,but I thank you
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Major issues with nforce3 250GB IDE controller: help needed
I am currently facing the following issues with the IDE controller of the Nforce3 250GB:
1. On random occasions, the PC hangs on the BIOS boot logo (Platinum) and fails to detect the IDE drives.
2. In most of the above cases, one of the PATA drives (generally the Seagate ST340016A) is not detected.
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I have thoroughly checked all the drives using Seagate SEATOOLS and Samsung HUTIL (done a complete surface scan and IDE cable checks) and found no errors.
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Here is a short summary of the drives:
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Seagate ST340016A PATA primary slave (Cable select)
Seagate SATA drive with 2MB cache (shall update model number soon)
Optical drives:
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All the drives have been checked thoroughly. They are working fine. However, the motherboard fails to detect them on random occasions.
I have tried resetting the CMOS.
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Latest drivers for everythingHi,
I am back here after a long long time Now a days, I run a Intel 965P based Core 2 Duo as my primary desktop. I still use my AMD64 platform and I did fix all the issues with it!
Sorry, I didn't update this thread earlier with the details of how I had solved those issues...
Well, initially I could not get my Radeon 9600XT to work on the nforce 3. I dirched it and got a 7600GT and that solved the GFX crashes..
The HDD problem (the one that I described in this thread) was fixed by:
1. Using the SATA ports 3 & 4 instead of SATA1 & 2!!!
Apparently, the issue of the cyclic reboot & the faded XP logo crash during reboot happens with a lot of Nforce 3 250 owners.
Using the other set of SATA ports fixes this for good...
I also replaced the 40GB Seagate ... But that wasn't the cause of this issue, because the cyclic reboot recurred with the remaining HDDs when SATA1 & 2 were in use...
Motherboards are really quirky, I admit -
Hyper V Error - Microsoft Emulated IDE Controller
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in a new server (W2008 R2) - HP Proliant ML 350 G5 I can't start any virtual machines. When I try to start one virtual machine I see an error about Microsoft Emulated IDE Controller if virtual machine has an vhd attached, but is the virtual machine hasn't
vhd the error is different: Microsoft Synthetic SCSI Controller Insufficient Memory.
I've reinstalled HyperV role, but I'm in the same state
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ThanksCorrect, you created virtual machines, you just haven't installed an OS into them yet. Even though it has no OS it will still use whatever memory you tell it to from the get go. So, how much memory is configured in your VM settings?
See this screen shot for what i am talking about. Can you post a screenshot for your setup as well? -
Additional PCI IDE controller does not work
I have an on-board IDE controller but I have several disks. So I bought an additional PCI IDE controller. However, Solaris 10 does not recognize it and doesn't see any disks on it. (reports "driver not attached "for the device).
Is there a way to make the external PCI controller work?Hi, I'm having a similar problem and hope there is a solution. In my case, I bought one of the "reported to work" IDE controllers - the adaptec ASH-1233.
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I followed the directions that Juergen Keil posted, and the directions on bigadmin associated with the card. That includes adding a line to devicedb/master:
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ASUS P5W DH Deluxe kernel panic ACPI & IDE controller is
I recently built a new system with the ASUS P5W DH Deluxe motherboard. Using the newISOs (both the new kernel and old) available on the forums I tried to install Arch only to be met with an extremely nondescript kernel panic (just a bunch of numbers followed by kernel panic). After a bit of fiddling with it I managed to get the system to boot to the installation shell by giving it the "acpi=off" boot parameter.
After figuring this out I thought I was set, but I was so very wrong. The IDE harddrive I was trying to install to was on the Jmicron JMB363 IDE controller that seems to have been hacked together and thrown in at the last second to allow 4 IDE devices in the system (something to do with the Intel specification for the 975X chipset I believe.)
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Thanks for any input!I'm running archlinux on a P5W DH Deluxe. Personally, I disabled JMicron in the BIOS as the drivers for it are pretty buggy from what I've read. I'm just using the ICHR PATA/SATA Controller (I have an SATA disk and a PATA DVDRW). I have it set to AHCI mode in the BIOS (this is the most compatible mode and faster for sata drives). It might look like it's frozen during boot, but there is a device that causes problems and takes a minute or so for the kernel to give up on it and continue booting.
If you want to use the JMicron controller, there is a flag you can pass to the kernel in your grub menu.conf (I think it's "ALL-GENERIC-IDE" (no quotes) and you might have to pass "irqpoll" as well. I got it working once but haven't used it for a while, so this may have changed. You might want to look into JMICRON_PATA.
There are some issues with the linux kernel and the P5W.
The bridge between the ICHR to the EZRaid controller isn't recognized by the kernel yet, so it will give some error messages and with a few 30 second pauses between them (which is a pain... I don't know of a way to disable the controller though). I've heard that if you attach a SATA hard disks to BOTH the EZRaid controller and the ICHR it's supposed to avoid it, but I don't want to install an extra hard disk.
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I haven't had any luck getting any kind of suspend working with the P5W. It can suspend, but it won't resume. Resetting the computer after a suspend makes it freeze just before you can access the BIOS screen. The only way to recover is to turn-off the power supply on the back for a minute or so and starting it up. It will run for a few seconds and shutdown (some kind of weird hardware reset?). After that it will boot normally.
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Second IDE controller not seen, Blade 150
On our Blade 150, on the first IDE bus I have a hard drive and a DVD recorder. On the second IDE bus I have another hard drive. The second bus is not seen at all. If I do a stop-a, probe-scsi-all the drive on the second controller is not seen. If I swap the two hard drives I get the same results; drives on the first bus are seen, drives on the second bus are not seen. I have also tried a new cable. Do I need to enable the second IDE controller somehow? Am I overlooking something? My goal is to make this a multi-boot machine and use an alias to choose which drive to boot from.
Thank you for the tip, I gave this a shot. I took all the defaults up to the point where it asked if I wanted to rebuild the path_to_inst file, where I answered yes. Then it asked for the physical name of the root device, I took the default which looked correct. Then it gave me the same error as before, "/dev/dsk/c0t2d0s6 or /usr, no such file or directory" and the boot failed. I then rebooted again and it cannot find the path_to_inst file so aparently it did not get far enough to save the new file.
Just to clarify what I believe the problem is, here is my layout:
c0t0d0sX --> Solaris 9 install, boots and runs great, c0t2d0sX listed under both /dev/dsk and /dev/rdsk, c0t2d0sX will mount just fine when running Solaris 9 so the disk looks OK
c0t2d0sX --> Solaris 8 install, OS was installed when disk was in c0t0d0 location then the disk was moved to c0t2d0 (first disk, second IDE bus), now has problems booting, c0t2d0sX not listed under /dev/dsk or /dev/rdsk on this disk and I think this is the problem. -
T510 - Driver for ACNCN0VR IDE Controller
I just installed Win7 X64 from scratch. All Devices are proper listed in device manager of Windows but only one device is not proper installed: ACNCN0VR IDE Controller. ("Speichercontroller" - Standard Mass storage controllers)
Which driver do I need to take???Heh. First time I saw a random 8-digit named device in Device Manager set off a few alarm bells. Some research showed it was Daemon Tools.
Glad your problem is sorted!
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Hi folks,
Can anyone point me in the direction of a SIS PCI IDE controller fro my 745 ultra MOBO?
Thanks
QuadeI know of no discrete PCI IDE Controller IC made by SIS for add-in PCI cards.
A few major names in IDE Controller cards are Highpoint, Promise Technology, and SIIG. -
K9vgm-v problem with pci ide controller card
My problem is with a promise ultra100 tx2 pci ide controller card that I got with a western digital hard drive a year or 2 back. I can plug the card in with no hard drives attached to it, boot into windows, update the drivers, etc. but when I plug either of my hard drives into the card, it goes to a black screen directly after the screen the promise controller brings up after the main msi bios screen.
It's my understanding that this problem is caused because the ide controller card can't inject its bios into the option rom of the motherboard. I've tried disabling as many other features that I can in the bios to clear up some space in the option rom, but so far no luck. I made sure I have the latest MSI bios, but I am 1 or 2 revisions behind on the promise controller card bios, because I don't have a floppy drive and I can't get any bootable cds to work.
If need be, I can get a new ide controller card, but I would rather not, because this one works just fine, and I am pretty short on cash. I am also worried that this same problem will happen with other controller cards that I pick up. Any advice on how to get this thing working?
P.S. - is there any way to get this board to boot from a USB key? My only options in the bios for booting to USB are USB-FDD, USB-ZIP, and USB-CDROM.
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-ide hard drive as primary master (windows drive)
DVD-RW as primary slave
ide hard drive as secondary master (raid drive 1)
ide hard drive on ide controller card primary master (raid drive 2)
ide hard drive on ide controller card secondary master (raid drive 3)
-Windows XP Pro SP2"My problem is with a promise ultra100 tx2 pci ide controller card that I got with a western digital hard drive a year or 2 back. I can plug the card in with no hard drives attached to it, boot into windows, update the drivers, etc. but when I plug either of my hard drives into the card, it goes to a black screen directly after the screen the promise controller brings up after the main msi bios screen."
That means reboot cycle?
Have you tried with more powerfull PSU?
"P.S. - is there any way to get this board to boot from a USB key? My only options in the bios for booting to USB are USB-FDD, USB-ZIP, and USB-CDROM."
USB-FDD, USB-ZIP or in HDD area.. depend how will be detected your USB key.
"It's my understanding that this problem is caused because the ide controller card can't inject its bios into the option rom of the motherboard. I've tried disabling as many other features that I can in the bios to clear up some space in the option rom, but so far no luck. I made sure I have the latest MSI bios, but I am 1 or 2 revisions behind on the promise controller card bios, because I don't have a floppy drive and I can't get any bootable cds to work."
Could be...
"If need be, I can get a new ide controller card, but I would rather not, because this one works just fine, and I am pretty short on cash. I am also worried that this same problem will happen with other controller cards that I pick up. Any advice on how to get this thing working?"
"-phoenix rev 1.2 (I think. Can't remember. Whatever liveupdate says is the newest)"
Check the exact version. Latest version is 1.6, if there is an conflict that raid card unable to register property like(No enough Space to copy PCI Option ROM or similar) a new bios can help.
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