Idoc packaging in sender

Hi All,
I need to collect idocs from R/3 system as single message in XI without using BPM..so i followed the blog
/people/stefan.grube/blog/2006/09/18/collecting-idocs-without-using-bpm
I created a XML file port and i assigned that port in partner profile..When i execute the report RSEOUT00 i am getting a message as 'No idoc is ready for processing..
Can any one give some suggestion get this scenario.
Regards,
Babu

Hi Babu,
When you run the transaction there comes az message like 'n' Communication channel ........created something. if the value of 'n' is 0 then Plz chk the partner profile and everything related to the R3 and Xi connection.
BR
Sudhir

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Idoc packaging at sender side

Hi all,
What is Idoc Packaging?
I have a scenario(Idoc to file) where sender is sending multiple idocs and I have to collect it without using BPM is it possible? Can Idoc Packaging help me in this.. If yes kindly give me all the development details too.
Thanks in advance,
Anu Singhal

Hi Anu,
Please look into the below thread for michal's answer:
IDOC Packaging on outbound side
You can refer the below blog for collecting multiple idocs without using BPM in the sender system only.
/people/stefan.grube/blog/2006/09/18/collecting-idocs-without-using-bpm
Refer the below link for info on idoc packaging:
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/877c0d53-0801-0010-3bb0-e38d5ecd352c
Also:
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/12/04/xi-idoc-bundling--the-trick-with-the-occurance-change
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Hi
I am aware that in Idoc packaging how Sender Idoc adapter packaging is done and also know that it is available from PI7.11
I have 2 questions...
1. Suppose there is a data issue with a single idoc ,,because of that entire package will fail...then it would call for finding the erroneous idoc ...correct the data and resend all the Idocs again..
This problem can occur again and again...and because of this the entire package will be stopped..
So is it a good option to not do packaging and send a single Idoc and insert it as a record in target database.
2. In case i am doing idoc packaging the occurence of IDOC in mapping will still be 1..1.
How do i manage my mapping such that each Idoc in the package should insert a separate record in the database table
Hema

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> 2. In case i am doing idoc packaging the occurence of IDOC in mapping will still be 1..1.
>
> How do i manage my mapping such that each Idoc in the package should insert a separate record in the database table
>
Map IDoc to access tag, in this case one record for each IDoc will get inserted.

IDOC Packaging Sender CC

Hi Gurus,
I've been using IDOC packaging in the IDOC sender communication channel very well without any problems so far.
Most of my scenarios I have to group several IDOCS and generate just one file, and using the new functionality I can reach my scenario easily and with good performance.
However I am trying to configure this same thing for a new IDOC, but it's not working.
So, I've checked the option in IDOC sender communication channel as usual, set up the size for 9999, I go to we20 and change the partner profile to collect IDOCs and also set it up to 9999 as package size. Following this blog. IDoc Packaging - SAP PI 7.1 EHP1 (and above)
However for this new configuration, when I trigger 2 or 3 IDOCS at the same time it creates 2 or 3 messages in PI as well, and it should create just ONE message in PI. What make me confuse is If I trigger 2 or 3 IDOCS for the other type of IDOC, regarding the old configuration it works...just one message is created in PI
So I am really confused why for this IDOC is not working and for the OLD configuration is working. Am I missing something ?
Thanks
BEst REgards
Diego

Hi All,
Yes, I had done everything
In fact I wanted to see the IDOC being collapsed with several IDOC nodes in the monitoring.
So the problem was solved quite easily I was triggering the IDOC through the program and the OutPut node was in blank and by default is set to 2 (transfer immediately) it skips the configuration that you have done in we20 and do it by itself.
So I put the propoer Output mode (4) and it worked well
Thank you for the answers
Regards
Diego

URGENT- IDoc Packaging - Que- Michal blog

Hi,
I was following Micahl's blog - for idoc packaging -
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2007/12/02/xipi-sender-idoc-adapter-packaging
But there is another blog, which also by Michal.
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/12/04/xi-idoc-bundling--the-trick-with-the-occurance-change ,
which is also mentioned in OSS note: Note 814393 - Multiple IDoc instances in an XI message.
Do I need to do both of them to achieve the Idoc Packaging.
I also noticed that in the first blog, it is about pushing Idocs out of R/3 system and in the second blog it is the other way round.
Can any one please clarify.
reg

with the first blog, how does sxmb_moni screen looks like - R3 system, XI. On XI it should not make any diff as XI is still splitting the packages.
Yes you are right...On R3 system, if packaging is done, then you will find all IDOCs as single message. As you said on XI it will not make any difference.
With the 2nd blog, XI would show single message for each package, but with more instances of the Idoc payload. (As shown in the first blog - look at the 2nd pic). Which means that you saving the queues but the payload size is more here in this case.
Yes..It show single message with more instance of IDOCs. You are right about saving the queues and payload size is also more

IDOC packaging/No packaging - need either/or depending on receiver

Hello IDOC adapter gurus,
We have an existing scenario with IDOC packaging, in which the message goes to multiple receivers . The client wants to OMIT idoc packaging for a single one of the receivers. Since the packaging is done in the sender adapter, how can I accomplish this in XI? A separate Partner Profile is already set up for this receiver in the sending system, so that side is not a problem.
One idea I'm exploring would be to create a new sender comm channel without packaging and a new Sender Agreement with Virtual Receiver and select the receiver in question, however I can't find enough documentation on the VR feature. Would that work? Any other ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Carlos

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Carlos Herrera wrote:
> Hi Ravikanth,
>
> Yes, I intend to do that, but the question is, will that be enough since it will still go through the comm channel that has idoc packaging configured? In other words, will the comm channel package size act as a "max size" or "min size"?
>
> Thanks.
> Carlos
if it is configured to be not do the collect at the partner profile end, you dont have to worry.
the IDoc adapter will not do any collect even if the package size is set.

PI 7.1 EHP1 : IDoc packaging

Guys
I am currently on PI 7.1 EHP1 , Trying to do Idoc packaging for one scenario , I am not sure what size I have to put in the tab
( IDoc package size ) in sender IDoc channel . I also donot know the frequency of IDocs . I saw one video in it it was told that the package size shouldnot exceed 2MB size .
Please help in this regard
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Hi Ninad,
I had used IDOC packaging in one of my scenario, which is very similar to yours. I dont know how many idoc are coming from source system. I put 100 in the IDOC package size parameter. when you put 100 in this parameter it will create a file wil maximum 100 idocs if your system is sending more than 100 than it will create send file
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Idoc Acknowledgements and Idoc Packaging

All,
I am implementing a requirement wherein we need to post 2 different types of Idoc's from our BPM. The Business requirements is such that until the Idoc 1 is not processed by the R3 system, the Idoc 2 should not be posted from XI as there is dependency in the data.
This can be addressed using Application Acknowledgements. The solution to this is to use the send step in my BPM with application acknowlegement. Until the application acknowledgement is not received for the first send step , the next send step will not be processed and so things will / should work fine.
The problem comes in the fact that the Idoc's being sent out of XI use Idoc Packaging, ie., the First Send Step uses Idoc Packaging to post multiple Idoc's to the target system. A question that arises due to Idoc packaging and Idoc ack's are,
How will the Idoc Ack's be sent back to XI?
I have read through the online help and it states that every ALE AUDIT Idoc can contain the status of maximum 500 Idoc's. Now, in my case , when using my Idoc packaging, if the number of Idoc's are greater than 500, how will the Application Acknowledgement for the Idoc's work? Will I still get a single acknowlegement in my BPM or will I get multiple acknowledgements? Will Send Step with Application acknowledgement still hold good?
Any ideas, thoughts / experiences on using idoc ack's with idoc packaging?
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Bhavesh

If I undestatood correcty you have 2 send step, the first send a message containing multiple IDoc (IDoc Packaging). In this first send step you set the application Acknowledgements.
I think that this is not managed from the BPM, bacause the acknowledgements will come someone positive and someone negative, and so when the first send step will be completed ?
I think that the solution must to be changed a little bit, or removing the IDoc Packaging, or removing the wait of Acknowledgements.
Also take in mind that if you use a BPM with many possible correlation (Acknowledgements) you will have bed performances.
Regards,
Sandro

What is the difference beween idoc package and idoc collection

Hi friends,
    i am unable to understand difference betwen Idoc package and Idoc cillection.
    Please give me clear clarification.
Thanks and regards
Bhanu

Hi Bhanu,
Apart from the replies above, in case you're looking for an answer from ECC perspective, here are some inputs: (ECC is considered as sender here)
1. IDoc Collection:
   This will collect the IDocs and will not immediately send it to the target system after they are created. Program RSEOUT00 can be later scheduled for these collected IDocs to deliver them to the target. You can treat this as a park and process approach which proves useful in several business scenarios.
This standard link gives more insight:
SAP Library - IDoc Interface/ALE
2. IDoc Packaging:
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Hope this helps.
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IDOC and IDOC Package

Hi Experts,
I'm refering the following web blog /people/prasadbabu.nemalikanti3/blog/2006/02/24/collecting-and-bundling-vendor-records-from-different-multiple-interfaces-file-systempeoplesoft-and-sending-to-sap-r3-system-part-1 and a bit confused. My questions are.
Q1. in section 6. the author is saying "CREMAS.CREMAS03 can be used as a single IDoc and not as a package" wht does an IDOC package represents and why he is using IDOC Package instead of Std. IDOC i.e., CREMAS03.
Q2. wht is the purpose of step 7.
Q3. in step 9. under 9.1 the mapping is created between File message type and CREMAS03 instead of CREMAS03_package.
Q4. in 9.2 "Interface mapping between File Interface and abstract interface of File". why mapping is required between file interface and abstract interface of file?
Q5. in 9.5 "Message mapping between Original IDoc and CREMAS_package, make it as multi mapping" why this mapping is required?
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Faisal

Hi Abdil,
IDoc Message Packages
Use
This function enables you to activate IDoc message packages quickly and efficiently. You use IDoc message packages to process and send messages from the IDoc adapter as packages rather than individually.
Integration
You can define filters for selecting messages for message packages and jobs for processing these packages by using event-driven message processing.
Prerequisites
In the menu Exchange Infrastructure ® Administration you have called the transaction IDoc Message Packages (IDXPW) and are on the Activation of IDoc Message Packages initial screen.
Features
You use this function to specify a message and do the following:
·        Test whether filters are already defined to filter this message at runtime
·        Test which of the defined filters actually filters this message at runtime
·        Define and activate a filter if none exists for this message
The message that you specify must be a message that has been processed successfully by the receiver IDoc adapter.
Activities
To activate an IDoc message package, you must first specify the ID of a message. You have the following options:
·        Enter a known message ID manually.
·        Use the input help to select a message ID.
The entered or selected message is used as a template for activating a message package.
To check whether a filter has already been defined for the message, choose Filter Test. If a filter exists, the entire filter data is displayed in a separate window. If multiple filters exist, the data is displayed for the filter that actually filters the message at runtime.
To continue with the activation of the message package, exit the filter display and choose ENTER on the initial screen. The system displays the following:
·        If a filter has already been defined for the specified message (one package activated), the remaining fields are filled with the values of this filter. You can now only edit the values in the following fields:
¡        Maximum Package Size
¡        Job Period
¡        Period Unit
¡        Start Immediatelycheckbox
·        If only parts of a filter have been defined for the specified message, the corresponding fields are filled with the defined values and the remaining fields contain default values, which you can accept or change.
·        If no filters have been defined for the specified message, you can edit all fields.
Make your entries and changes and choose Execute.
This activates the package for the specified message and schedules the specified job automatically. The current filter data is displayed in a separate window.
Go through this link...
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/c1/bab13bb3acd607e10000000a11402f/content.htm
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Satya Kumar
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IDOC Packaging issue

Hi,
We have a requirement to create a single file for all the IDOC process in one day.
We are in PI 7.1 and not having EhP1 so canu2019t create sender IDOC channel for packaging.
We have another approach of using file port as describe by Stefan blog .
/people/stefan.grube/blog/2006/09/18/collecting-idocs-without-using-bpm
but we donu2019t want to use FILE port approach as well.
Can we some other way of IDOC packaging at PI?
Regards,
Navneet

Hi Ravi,
Thanks for reply.
We already had a discussion on this approach. which required client approval and we are not sure that it will get approved or not.
Thatu2019s why we thought of trying alternative approach if possible.
Any suggestion Guys...
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Edited by: navneet sumit on Jul 26, 2011 10:25 AM

IDOC Packaging on outbound side

Can we do IDOC packaging on Outboud side of IDOC Adapter ?

hi,
no, IDOC packaging is not possible on the outbound side
you can use collect patter to collect idocs and send them
in one call like I desribed in one weblog:
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/12/04/xi-idoc-bundling--the-trick-with-the-occurance-change
but this is not IDOC packaging (event driven)
Regards,
michal
<a href="/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/06/28/xipi-faq-frequently-asked-questions">XI / PI FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions</a>

IDoc Packaging + Ack ALEAUD = bad behavior ?

Hi,
I'm in version PI 7.11 and I'm studying the IDoc packaging of EhP1 with Acknowledgment (ALEAUD).
My scenario is a basic one: File -> PI --> ECC (100 idocs). And then ECC returns Ack.
So for the returned Acknowledgment, I have that:
- on ECC, I did ALE config, and I run programs RBDSTATE / RSEOUT00 to create one IDoc ALEAUD (Ack).
- In PI, I use a sender CC (Idoc adapter) by using option "Idoc Packaging".
- In PI, I use a Sender Agreement with Idoc ECC's ALEAUD and this sender CC.
- In PI, I use program IDX_ALEREQUEST on ECC's ALEAUD idoc.
My problem is:
ECC send me ONE idoc ALEAUD which contains 100 segments corresponding to 100 Idocs received at the first step. BUT even if I used the "Idoc Packaging"... in IDX5 of PI, I have not one idoc ALEAUD, but I have 100 Idocs ALEAUD !
And so after that my mapping is run 100 times instead of one ! Image if I need to return an email... with this PI behaviour, I will send 100 "Ack" emails.
So does somebody know why IDoc Packaging does not work with ALEAUD whereas program IDX_ALEREQUEST is correctly used ?
Thanks
Mickael
Note: I don't want to have to create a BPM to collect my ALEAUD Idocs. That's too heavy...
And (for the moment), I don't want to create a specific ZALEAUD idoc...

Hi Prashant,
yes, I did not precise it, but of course IDXNOALE is used, else PI will generate an Ack of this ECC's ALEAUD... so a ack of a ack... but it's not really my problem.
what I say is:
- Request : PI -> 100 idocs MATMAS (for instance)
- Ack : ECC return to PI only one idoc ALEAUD with 100 segments "E1STATE" corresponding to the 100 idocs MATMAS.
- Ack : PI receive this only one ALEAUD... but in IDX5 and in SXI_MONITOR, we see in fact 100 IDocs ALEAUD with 1 segment E1STATE, instead of having only one idoc ALEAUD (like in ECC side) !
So I'm searching a way to keep in PI the only one Idoc ALEAUD sent by ECC, in order to be able (for instance) to send only one email (and not 100 emails like it's the case for the moment).
Regards
Mickael

IDoc Package from XI to R/3

Hello,
Is it possible to send an IDoc package from XI to R/3?
I saw the following some time back in a tuning guide (Feb 2005):
"In SP11, a solution will be available for IDoc adapter outbound processing to collect IDoc-XML messages and transfer them as an IDoc package, as in the traditional IDoc world. The IDoc adapter is designed to be able to process IDoc-XML structures that represent IDoc packages. This enables IDoc-XML packages to be generated during mapping if the inbound data structure of a message already includes the package data. This structure can then be processed by the outbound IDoc adapter and sent as an IDoc package to the receiver application."
Does anyone know if this got released? Where is this set up in XI? Tuning, IDoc adapter, mapping, BPM?
What is meant by "... if the inbound data structure of a message already includes the package data"? Is there a setting in the data type for this?
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Alexander,
If the data has gone out of XI successfully and IDOC has been recieved by R/3, you cannot track the same in XI.
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