Import files change their field order

This happens quite alot when I import a .mov which I have created in Motion (with field order set to none) when I import the file into FCP browser FCP always displays it as having fields even though my FCP sequence settings are also set to none in the field order.
I have noticed this with Livetype files also.

What are your sequence setting, and your export settings in Motion?
Motion doesn't necessarily default to the project settings on export.

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Hello.
I have 4 input fields on a screen that i have build.
When i'm running the screen, I can move from one field to
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I need to set a different moving order that is performed by the TAB button.
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a) set the initial cursor at dynpro level
b) set the cursor positions dynamically using codeSET CURSOR[/code]
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/EN/9f/dbac0b35c111d1829f0000e829fbfe/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/EN/9f/dba47e35c111d1829f0000e829fbfe/frameset.htm
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Change of field order obtained from getFields()

I use getFields() method of 'Class' to obtain the fields of a class. Fields returned from method are in order they are declared but according to documentation this order is not guaranteed.
The elements in the array returned are not sorted and are not in any particular order.When may this order change? At each time the class is loaded or according to version of virtual machine or compiler?..

Fields returned from method are in order they are declared but according to documentation this order is not guaranteed.So they are not in any particular order.
When may this order change?Any time at all.
At each time the class is loaded or according to version of virtual machine or compiler?.It's not specified. So don't rely on any ordering.
That's what the Javadoc is telling you. Listen and learn.

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Field Order Changes? Rendering from Color.

I received a project from a client that was run through color. I noticed their source files were lower field dominant (525/29.97) and their renders from color were upper or odd field dominant. This caused some strangeness in their sequences and it looks like they de-interlaced their clips and/or changed the field order of their sequences. I can't find anywhere in Color to set this as a pre-set, other than setting to de-interlace renders. Is it possible that Color is inverting the field order when it renders? This used to happen with Compressor, when I would export FCP for DVD's, sometimes Compressor would (set to Auto) guess wrong on the field dominance. Can anyone advise?
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If only it were that easy. Of course, you will want to set a "re-interlace" for export....
De-interlace seems to be poorly understood and not very well executed in a lot of file-based image processing. In COLOR, both the Geometry and COLORFX rooms display spectacular weaknesses in this regard. To even use the word as its applied in COLORFX is a bit of a misnomer, because the real thrust of the exercise is to "split" and flag the fields for proper dominance handling. The COLOR USER manual has a good illustrated example of how to do this -- the result is a "twin" effects tree -- split the frame into its components at the top, do your voodoo identically for each "field" stream, then correctly zipper them back together at the bottom. Its a bit of a secret process, not entirely dissociated from a Masonic handshake.
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Need to setup Premiere CS6 sequence for two file types with different field orders

I have a client who has shot video for me using two cameras, one camera was set to progressive, and the other to interlaced upper field first. I need to use both file types in the edit and have been struggling to set up the sequence to get the best look for the end product, a DVD. I have several videos to do for her that were all shot in the same way, so I need a solution!
I would appreciate help figuring out how to set up this work flow from beginning to end.
Should I convert one of the files from the beginning so they match field orders before going into a sequence? Or do I just need to do some adjusting of the files once they are in the sequence? Is it just as simple as changing the transcode settings to favor the upper field first? I'm definitely having issues once the video is transcoded in Encore and you can see a lot of jagged edges and lines especially during movement. My client isn't happy and I've tried several workarounds, but to no avail.
Here are the two file types I have:
File extension: .MOV
H.264, 1920x1080, Linear PCM, 16 bit little-endian signed integer, 48000 Hz, stereo
FPS 29.97
No Fields: Progressive Scan
File extension: .MTS (my Mac finder can't read these files, but they are read in Premiere)
Image Size: 1920 x 1080
Frame Rate: 29.97
Source Audio Format: 48000 Hz - compressed - 6 channels
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.0
Upper Field First
I am using Adobe Premiere CS 6.0.2
Encore 6.0.1
Media Encoder 6.0.2.81
I am running it on an iMac 27-inch, Mid 2011
with Mac OS X Lion 10.7.5
Processor 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7
Graphics AMD Radeon HD 6970M 1024 MB
I've just been setting the sequence to match the .MOV files since they look much better than the .MTS files. I've done the opposite as well, setting the sequence to match the .MTS files and it doesn't seem to help. I've also changed the field order of the files once they are in the sequence by changing the field options and have tried converting the .MTS files in the Media Encoder, but nothing I've done has worked.
Any help would be so appreciated! The client I have is a photographer, so she wasn't aware of this issue when she first shot these videos. So I have 10 videos with these issues I need to get back to her, hopefully issue free! I'm struggling as an editor because my last job I was using FCP and was working with videographers who knew what they were doing, so I've never faced such problems before. Plus I'm new to the Adobe software. Not a good combination. Please forgive me if I didn't give all the information you need. I will happily respond with whatever more information you may need to help me out!
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I wonder if you could do your edit ignoring any visual issues of the interlaced footage but keeping the different sources separate ( checkerboard edit Vid 1/ Vid 2 )
Lock it down then export the interlaced part of the edit as a Digital Intermediate.
Maybe Export the other source as well to the same codec. DI
Bring them back together in a New Sequence. You wold have to deal with the black spacing.

Imported file split 20-30 times / need to multi-select de-flicker

Hi all - first time poster and all-round noob.
First my set up - I'm running Win7 Home Premium (64 bit), with PRE8 on a custom build i5/750 + ATI5850 + 4GBram. I'm using an old (3+yo) Sony DVD digicam DC-706 if I remember correctly. My problem is twofold - but I'll start with the most immediate one. When I get media off the dvd's, they appear in as 2/3 VOB files (nothing unusual with that). However, when I drag them from the media window onto the Sceneline, these VOB files are automatically split. In some cases the one file can suddenly be split 20-30times. Now this is annoying, and I was wondering if (a) I can stop the splitting, and (b) whether I can merge these clips. I can't locate anything online to help.
Now the second part of the problem... when I do videos, I always have to select de-flicker on the video options. If I don't there's an awful jitter to the finished product. I thought that this was field reversal problem but switching field dominannce doesn't seem to stop it. When I use de-flicker, it goes away. This has been the same in Premiere Elements 5. Not sure if it's the cam or what... or is it my TV? Anyhow - it's annoying having to go into the clip>video>field options>flicker removal each time... especially when the software automatically splits into 20-30 clips.
Is there any way to set the flicker removal on a global level rather than on a clip by clip basis. Also does anyone have a better solution as to why changing the field order do anything, but why flicker removal does. [note - the jitter isn't just on horizontal lines - but looks exactly like an interlacing problem which most probably just gets smoothed out with flicker removal]
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I've spent a little bit of time trying to understand this... and the following examples might be helpful to explain what's going on (apparently). This experimentation was done by (a) getting a vob file from dvd camcorder, (b) setting up a project with either lower (default, case A and B) or upper field first (case C and D). I then change the combination of parameters between reversing the field or not, and turning on interlacing of consecutive frames or not. The final parameter is whether or not to set a lower field first on the output (case A and C) or upper field first (B and D). Here I've written an X for where there was the jitter evident and OK where there was no jitter evident.
TEST RESULTS
(A) PROJECT PRESET - LOWER FIELD FIRST / OUTPUT AVI - LOWER FIELD FIRST
                               REVERSE FIELD
                               ON               OFF
Interlace   ON          OK                X
              OFF           X                  OK
(B) PROJECT PRESET - LOWER FIELD FIRST / OUTPUT AVI - UPPER FIELD FIRST
                               REVERSE FIELD
                               ON               OFF
Interlace   ON          OK               X
              OFF          X                 OK
(C) PROJECT PRESET - UPPER FIELD FIRST / OUTPUT AVI - LOWER FIELD FIRST
                               REVERSE FIELD
                               ON               OFF
Interlace   ON          OK               X
               OFF          OK               X
(D) PROJECT PRESET - UPPER FIELD FIRST / OUTPUT AVI - UPPER FIELD FIRST
                              REVERSE FIELD
                               ON               OFF
Interlace   ON          OK               X
               OFF          OK               X
The end results is that the solution to getting a no-jitter output is not trivial. It appears to not only depend on the input field dominance, but also on the output field dominance and both the reverse field dominance+interlace consecutive frames.
So from this very cursory examination - it would appear that if you had lower field first on both the import and export that there should be no need to do anything. Going for an upper field first however would still require you to reverse the field irrespective of whether you had an upper field first on output.
I hope this helps a bit in understanding some of the issues... but please be aware that this is just for AVI files created on my hdd. I will need to test it out on the real thing (i.e. burnt to dvd)... stay tuned.

Motion and Field Order Stupidness

I'll try not to rant too much.
But what is up with Motion and working with DV NTSC video with fields? I have had nothing but headaches. I am a long time After Effects user, and I was glad to get Motion 2 (2.1.2), but I've just spent the last hour and half trying to get it to render DV NTSC video correctly without it getting field jitter on a project that needed to be over-nighted to go on the air. And it still doesn't look totally correct. (I'm not a happy camper)
Here's the deal, I took DV captured footage from FCP using the standard DV/DVCPRO - NTSC preset I've used forever. That footage was imported into a Motion project that was using its own NTSC DV project preset (all lower fields -even). But every time I'd play it back in Motion, or render it out (still using the NTSC DV render preset), I get serious field jitter on DV output.
Eventually I found under the Inspector-Media tabs that the footage was imported as Field Order- None (why I have not a clue). So I changed all the footage to Lower (even). That worked on any footage where size, rotation, or position was not changed. If any of those attributes was changed I get the field order jitter. It seems to me that Motion is not able to render out field ordered video properly and the quality looks poor or jittery.
Now that might seem hasty to say that, but I've been doing the same thing in AE for years, never having to change the imported field order to get it to look right and I have always captured, imported, work with projects and rendered using the QT DV/DVCPRO - NTSC presets.
Can someone help me because I can not believe I've had to change so many setting to try to get video to look right from Motion while using the same settings during the entire workflow.
Thanks, and sorry for the rant.
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Hey, thanks for the replys.
[....you might want to try using the animation codec..millions of colors...]
I gave that a shot this morning, and I'm having the same problem. See what's going on now is after changing the Field Order to even for the footage media, all of it looks decent except for the ones on an angle, croped or resized and I see this in both Motion's preview and the final render when I play it back in FCP. So as per your suggestion I rendered with the animation codec (filed rendering) and it still has it. Its just odd to me that it does that, like I said before I've worked in the DV/DVCPRO - NTSC codec with FCP and AE for years with no quality degrade. The reason I have always do that is that's what I capture to and that what my FCP project is so to keep it all consistant. BTW, this is going network and cable, no different than I usually do.
[...are you enabling field rendering in the Canvas or in the export settings?]
Yes I am, sorry, I should have pointed that out. I have done combinations of different QT codecs with and without field rendering turned on to see different results. None of course resolves this issue.
Thanks
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Field order issues after export to DV Pal from uncompressed

We are experiencing some difficulty exporting clips from FCP to our Omneon Server for TX.
We are capturing 8 bit uncompressed (AJA and Blackmagic) from digibeta for our edit and all editing stays in uncompressed until final output. Our transmission system demands DV PAL files so we export finished items as DV PAL in FCP and drop onto the server
Our problem is that on playback from the server, the field order is incorrect. Although the exported DV clips properties show lower field order, the clip is obviously playing upper field first. If we capture and edit in DV and export the DV file to the server, then we have no problems. I have tried
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when you drop one of your 8 bit uncompressed source clips into your DV PAL timeline, is FCP correctly adding the Shift Fields filer to those timeline instances?
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HDV to DVD interlace field order - depends on export path!

Summary: Export... -> Using Compressor versus compressing an Export... -> QuickTime Movie file, produces different field orders in the resulting MPEG.
In Detail: Here is my HDV to DVD (MPEG2) process;
Create a DV sequence, and drop the HDV into it, it gets resized, and has a filter to shift the fields by +1 added to it, and is scaled to the correct size for 4:3 (letterboxed) or 16:9 (fills 720x480) - which is fine.
Set the Quicktime Video Compressor for the sequence to 'None', and set the Video Processing -> Motion Filtering Quality to 'Fastest (linear)' as I don't like what Normal or Best does to the image (makes it pixally, check in the canvas).
Now, if you Export -> Using Compressor, and setup a 2-pass mpeg 2 encode, you get a very good image, no via - DV artifacts. I also add the channel blur, set to 1 on all channels, if its too sharp - channel blur does not blur between fields, like flicker filter does, so the motion is not compromised, and looks excellent, but it stops sharp still images from flickering.
However, this is really slow, FCP is tied up, and for a 2 pass encode, any blur or colour filters get applied twice, its also harder to hand this off to a second machine to get on with.
So, logically, you would instead, Export... -> QuickTime Movie... -> Current Setting, Make Self Contained and then load that into Compressor, apply the SAME settings you did Using Compressor... At which point, the FUN begins.
I have finally narrowed down, that this changes the field order, although I nearly went mad discovering it - every time I thought my little 10 second test worked, (exported from the timeline) I would save the whole thing out and compress it, only to find, the interlace order changed, and now needed the field shift removed! And, because my little test worked, I would then do the whole thing, some 20+ hours later, only to find it was wrong!
Export... -> Using QuickTime Conversion... is the same as QuickTime Movie...
Anyone else with experience of this ? It was maddening! But I think I am over the worst of it now! Is there any solution for unifying this for all export methods ?
When it works DVD's encoded from HDV look amazing.
When it works.....
FCP 5.0.4
Compressor 2.0.1
PowerBook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.4)

Hi Ben,
Ignore the Apple-0 (zero) part - that's just the key shortcut for the sequence settings. (press the Apple Key, and a Zero key with a sequence selected)
So, from the top: (although I'm not in front of my machine right now, so this is from memory)
Create a new DV sequence, 4:3 or 16:9.
Drop the edited HDV sequence into the DV sequence.
De-select the HDV sequence in the DV time line, bring up the Sequence Settings Dialogue for the DV sequence. (make SURE it isn't the sequence setting dialogue for the HDV sequence)
In the sequence setting dialogue, change the codec from DV to None (note - not the same as Uncompressed). If it's currently HDV, you have the wrong sequence, leave it as HDV, close the dialogue, and bring up the setting for the DV sequence.
On the 'Video Processing' tab, for the DV sequence, set the 'Motion Filtering Quality' to 'Fastest (linear)'
Choose OK to close the settings dialogue.
If you want to, and it depends on your footage, add the following blur filter to the HDV sequence in the DV timeline:
Select the HDV sequence in the DV timeline, right click (or hold ctrl key, and click) on the HDV sequence in the DV timeline, and choose the top item in the pop-up menu, 'Open' (in viewer). Click the filters tab of the viewer, you will see the Shift Fields filter, set to +1, added by FCP, add the channel blur, above the shift fields filter. Set the blur to 1 on each channel. I prefer this to the Video -> Flicker Filter, as channel blur does not blur between fields, so it does not blur motion.
I discovered this by accident
Now Save, the following sometimes crashes FCP. Check it in the Canvas viewer, set to 100%, with the channel blur, around text and sharp contrast areas, you get a nice soft blur, turn off that filter if you think its too much.
On to the encoding:
The simplest step, is to choose the DV timeline, and export via compressor. Pick a 2 pass MPEG preset, that matches the 4:3 or 16:9 of the sequence, and submit. This takes a while, on slower machines.
The alternative, which can reduce the time, is to export the DV sequence as an uncompressed QuickTime file - this does not change the quality at all - but can speed things up, because FCP is quite slow at delivering frames to Compressor, compared to Compresser just reading the frame from an uncompressed file, Compresser has to read them twice for 2 pass MPEG encoding. However, you need a lot of fast disk space to store the uncompressed footage.
Hope this helps.
Keep the replies / mail on these boards, that way they stay useful to all!
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Re field order in INNER JOIN

Hi,
I need a suggestion for improvement of my inner JOIN statement.
internal table itab is of below type
type: begin of ty_itab
 field a
 field b
 field c
 field d
 end of ty_itab
I have to join two database table TABLE1 and TABLE2. Fields a and d are from TABLE2 and fields b and c are from TABLE 1.
But in the internal table I must have the fields in the order fielda,b,c,d.
Which of the below two options will be better for performance ? And why ?
option 1:
SELECT tab2~a
 tab1~b
 tab1~c
 tab2~d into corresponding fields of itab from TABLE1 as tab1 and TABLE2 as tab2 on..........
option2:
SELECT tab1~b
 tab1~c
 tab2~a
 tab2~d into corresponding fields of itab from TABLE1 as tab1 and TABLE2 as tab2 on..........
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Edited by: Rob Burbank on May 28, 2009 9:43 AM

I am not satisfied with your two options. Because of following reason,
1. First I want to know which one is master table and item table. Because in inner join select query you want to use master table as first and you want to use the item table as second.
Example:
SELECT TAB2A TAB1B TAB1C TAB2D
 INTO TABLE ITAB
 FROM <MASTER TABLE1> AS TAB1 INNER JOIN <ITEM TABLE2> AS TAB2 ON..........
2. You should not use the INTO CORRESPONDING FIELDS OF ITAB. Instead of this you can change the field order in internal table or in select query.
Example:
Use following way
TYPE: BEGIN OF TY_ITAB
 FIELD A
 FIELD B
 FIELD C
 FIELD D
 END OF TY_ITAB
SELECT TAB2A TAB1B TAB1C TAB2D
 INTO TABLE ITAB
 FROM <MASTER TABLE1> AS TAB1 INNER JOIN <ITEM TABLE2> AS TAB2 ON..........
Or , Anyway you are going to use in program only. It will not affect your logic if change the field order in the internal table.
TYPE: BEGIN OF TY_ITAB
 FIELD B
 FIELD C
 FIELD A
 FIELD D
 END OF TY_ITAB
SELECT TAB1B TAB1C TAB2A TAB2D
 INTO TABLE ITAB
 FROM <MASTER TABLE1> AS TAB1 INNER JOIN <ITEM TABLE2> AS TAB2 ON..........
3. In inner join query, the order of Where condition also create the perform issue. Because in where condition maximum you try to use all the primary key from <MASTER TABLE1> and <ITEM TABLE2> and field order in where condition should be same order in <MASTER TABLE1> and <ITEM TABLE>.
This are the things you want to take care when you try to use INNER JOIN Query. If you have any clarification please let me know. I will try answer your Questions.
Ravi.
Edited by: RavivarmanP on May 28, 2009 6:55 PM

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I am having a time trying to figure out what's going on with my clips that I send to Motion. I'm working with video that is HDV1080i60 and has a Field Dominance: Upper (Odd). Now when I send a clip from the timeline and it opens in Motion, the video appears heavily interlaced and I have to go into Project Properties and change the Field Order: Upper First (Odd) to Field Order: None. After I make the change to Field Order: None, my slowed down wakeboarding/tubing clips look fantastic.
I don't understand why I have to make this change however. I'm sort of a noobie, learning how to apply speed changes and variable speed changes to clips. But I can also send unaltered clips to Motion and I run into the same issue.

One thing to know is that by default in FCP you are only seeing one field in the Canvas but in Motion by default you are seeing both fields - so that may be all that's going on.
To see both fields in FCP you need to set the Canvas to 100%; to see only one field in Motion, you deselect Field Rendering under the View pop-up menu (or Option-F IIRC).
When you slow a clip down, you can run into field problems, which is why choosing Field Dominance of None can be helpful. Better to work with material that was shot progressively to begin with, though.

Aperture Video Import Problem - from Lumix GH4: Imported clips have their dates changed to the import date. The files show up on the hard drive but many are not showing up in Aperture.

Aperture Video Import Problem - from Lumix GH4: Imported clips have their dates changed to the import date. The files show up on the hard drive with import date not created date, but many of these same files are not showing up in Aperture. Sometimes the clips actually show up with the current import but take on the video information from a previously imported file.

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I believe that this whole process was so screwy because I was importing from an external hard drive not a camera. I had these photos on a PC and did not have the original cameras to use to import directly which I am fairly sure would have made this easier!

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I have requirement as follows.
Scenario: - We wanted carryout the pricing based on Incoterms, customer and material. I have created the condition table with these fields. And maintained the condition record. The values will flow to sales order without any problem.

Problem: - When we change the incoterms say for CIF to FOB the system should redetermine the price automatically, but this is not happening (If will redetermine only freight). If we carryout new pricing manually the right price will flow.

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