Incredibly frustrating crashes in InDesign cc
I installed InDesign CC and got the following problem.
I create an object state of a text field. When I want to check the AutoPlay in Folio Overlay, InDesign crashes. It happens every time.
I have restarted the computer and I have reinstalled the software. No difference.
Incredibly frustrating. Does anyone have a suggestion for a solution?
I have a mac book pro with OSX 10.8.4
Okay, here's a link
http://pastebin.com/qxRRHBPZ
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I've been trying to install InDesign CS6 on my Mac for a while now. I've posted on here before but didn't have any solutions that worked. I've uninstalled and reinstalled but every time the start up gets to "Start up Service registry" it crashes out. The other software for CS6 works just fine - it's just InDesign.
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Process: Adobe InDesign CS6 [282]
Path: /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS6/Adobe InDesign CS6.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CS6
Identifier: com.adobe.InDesign
Version: 8.0.0.370 (8000)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [128]
Date/Time: 2012-11-19 10:03:50.076 +0000
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.7.5 (11G63)
Report Version: 9
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000
VM Regions Near 0:
--> __PAGEZERO 0000000000000000-0000000000001000 [ 4K] ---/--- SM=NUL /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS6/Adobe InDesign CS6.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CS6
__TEXT 0000000000001000-0000000000005000 [ 16K] r-x/rwx SM=COW /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS6/Adobe InDesign CS6.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CS6
Application Specific Information:
objc[282]: garbage collection is OFF
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 com.adobe.BIB 0x00dd10fe 0xdce000 + 12542
1 com.adobe.BIB 0x00dd1148 0xdce000 + 12616
2 com.adobe.BIB 0x00dd13e3 0xdce000 + 13283
3 com.adobe.BIB 0x00dd1469 0xdce000 + 13417
4 com.adobe.InDesign.PDF 0x18739820 GetPlugIn + 1222048
5 com.adobe.InDesign.PDF 0x187575a6 GetPlugIn + 1344294
6 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c4dc944 __cxa_finalize + 243
7 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c4dc7f2 exit + 25
8 com.adobe.InDesign 0x00001d5d start + 61
Thread 1:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9282f90a kevent + 10
1 libdispatch.dylib 0x92873e04 _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 969
2 libdispatch.dylib 0x92872853 _dispatch_mgr_thread + 53
Thread 2:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9282e83e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c4ede78 _pthread_cond_wait + 914
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c4edf7b pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9b94f3a7 TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 178
4 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9b9b167f MPWaitOnQueue + 200
5 PMRuntime.dylib 0x005b9581 SetVSizeBaseline(unsigned long) + 1473
6 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9b9b25e0 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
7 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c4e9ed9 _pthread_start + 335
8 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c4ed6de thread_start + 34
Thread 3:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9282cc22 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9282c1f6 mach_msg + 70
2 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9b9dc0ec TS_exception_listener_thread + 90
3 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c4e9ed9 _pthread_start + 335
4 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c4ed6de thread_start + 34
Thread 4:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9282f02e __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c4ebccf _pthread_wqthread + 773
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c4ed6fe start_wqthread + 30
Thread 5:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9282f02e __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c4ebccf _pthread_wqthread + 773
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c4ed6fe start_wqthread + 30
Thread 6:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x9282f02e __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c4ebccf _pthread_wqthread + 773
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x9c4ed6fe start_wqthread + 30
Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0xbffffbe4 ebx: 0x00dd13d0 ecx: 0x00ded2e0 edx: 0xffffffff
edi: 0x00ded2e0 esi: 0x00000000 ebp: 0xbffffbc8 esp: 0xbffffba0
ss: 0x00000023 efl: 0x00010286 eip: 0x00dd10fe cs: 0x0000001b
ds: 0x00000023 es: 0x00000023 fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x0000000f
cr2: 0x00000000
Logical CPU: 2
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0x1a977000 - 0x1ab52fe7 +com.adobe.InDesign.Text Walker (8.0.0.370 - ???) <49EF6D2A-B8AE-I've had an email from Adobe asking me to contact them regarding my InDesign issues. When I log into my Adobe account it says I have no open cases although this one is very much live. As I am based in the UK it's very difficult to get answers from Adobe support due to time differences. They have asked for my contact details etc. but the email does not have a reply address. Does anyone know of any support I can get in th UK? It's not only frustrating that I can't use CS6 but I am struggling to get answers from Adobe also. Email as follows - they even tell me to have a 'nice day' - :
Your Adobe ID: [removed by forum host]
Your Case Number:0183766496
Dear Lisa,
Thank you for your continuous support and patience with Adobe technical support.
In order to resolve this issue, we need a real time conversation with you. I do understand that this issue is going on for a long time.
We would request you to provide us with the below mentioned information so that we can get in touch with you and walk you through the steps to be followed in order to resolve the issue on priority basis:
1.Your Preferred Day to attend the call
2.Your Preferred Time to attend the call
3.Your Time Zone
4 Your Phone Number
Please remember our call back team works from Mon-Fri 10.00am-7.00pm CST.
Kindly revert to us with the above stated information so that our call back team can contact you within 24-48 working hours.
You may also call Technical Support at (800)-833-6687. We are available from 6:00 am to 5:00 pm Monday Friday, Pacific Time.
Thank you for choosing Adobe.
Have a Nice Day !
This email is in response to support case #0183766496 submitted by Lisa Steward.
To respond to this update or review your case history, log in to the Adobe Support Portal online and look for your case number in the "recent activity" section. Should you need to send us additional information, you can do so by opening the case and submitting your update.
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Adobe Customer Care
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Crashes in Indesign CS5 related to New Pages and Smart Reflow
Anyone else having problems with page related crashes (linked to the LAYOUT ADJUSTMENT.APLN module in ID CS5 on Windows 7 x64, according to the crash report). I get regular crashes when text or table overflows and a new page is created using Smart Reflow, or when manually adding new pages via the New button on the Pages panel. The latter seems to be linked to clicking the new page button repeatedly to create several new pages.
I am working on a document created in CS4, so this might be the cause. I tried to recreate the crash in a new CS5 document, but was not able to, although I could not get Smart Reflow to work either when Limit to Master Text Frames is unchecked.
JI have the same, several files created in CS4 (with texts imported from Word). The files crashed in CS4, and CS5. CS4 Windows and Mac, CS5 Windows 7. It definitely has to do with adding pages and overflowing text, exactly as stated. I was not happy to buy from my own money this very expensive software to have it crash 20 times the first day I used it. And at least a 100 times on the third day. That felt like Windows 3.1 to me. You have to know exactly what to do not to let the program crash. I spend 9 hours on figuring out how to get all the hundreds of hours of work back from my crashing Indesign. I managed to get from completely unstable (crash every minute) to workable stable (10-20 crashes a day). I could now write a manual on workarounds "how not to crash CS5", yet cannot prevent all crashes (yet). Expensive software like this should definitely be better at preventing crashes. I still am sorry I didn't keep to MS Word! It works and crashes less than 5% of the time that Adobe does. Has less features, yet does basic features better (like footnotes, autonumbering etc). I have a very serious deadline and Adobe keeps on crashing.
Oh, and YES of course I export to IDML. Spent more money on OT fonts because I didn't trust my TT fonts. Googled like a madman for solutions. The went back to Zen and not sleeping just to get my book to the printer.
Do I sound frustrated? ;-) -
PDF with comments crashing, using InDesign CS3
I'm using OS10.6 and switching back and forth between Acrobat Pro 9.3.4 and InDesign CS3 5.0.4. I have Firefox running too, as well as Bridge and Word.
The PDF was originally made by me. I email it to my client and she adds comments using her Windows PC - I don't know any more details. She then Saves As and emails back to me.
I then open the PDF with comments and start to work through them, making amendments in InDesign, and then marking the comment with a checkmark. The PDF seems to randomly crash - sometimes it will work fine for a while, sometimes it just won't and crashes each time I open it. As a result of this random crashing, I'm saving after every comment I process to keep track of what comments I've done. (EDIT) Sometimes after the crash none of the comments are checked, despite me checking them and saving the file. V frustrating and time consuming.
Any ideas?? Thanks.
Message was edited by: agreen01There is a feature in interactive PDF called Show/Hide fields which may or may not give you what you want. You can create a button of an image or other object which will make another object (button) appear. Do a Google search on "Show Hide Field InDesign Tutorial"
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Crash with Indesign CS6 and Keyboard Maestro
Anyone else experiencing crashes when using Keyboard Maestro with Indesign CS6 on OSX Mavericks? (Latest update of all mentioned apps).
Indesign crashes when I try to copy certain items in Indesign, but it is not possible to narrow down which. Happends even when there are no macros installed in KBM. Therefore it seems like its the Keyboard Maestro Engine that causes the crashes.I see then I believe Kglad's advice is on track with starting with updating your printer drivers. I have also moved this discussion over to the InDesign forum as the Users in this forum likely have additional suggestions.
Also if you can please turn off your e-mail signature if you want to respond via e-mail. Your responses are going to a public forum where the information is accessible by anyone. I have edited your previous response to remove the signature. -
Mail app crashes when InDesign opens a new document
I am using InDesign CS5.5 and the standard mac Mail on an imac running OSX 10.7.3. When I open an existing InDesign file the mail app crashes. It doesnt do this with any other application.
Has anyone had the same experience ad could let me know how to fix this please.I use the exact same configuration on two computers with no problems whatsoever.
I can't think of why InDesign would have anything to do with Mail crashing unless you're severely constrained in RAM on your computer. -
Document crashed in InDesign 5.5- it will not open
I have a doc that just crashed my ID5.5. It will not open, ID "does not respond" and I have to force quit. I cleaned out the preferences, I tried opening the file on another computer. Nothing works.
I posted the crash report. Can anyone help?
http://pastebin.com/ZASiqcYPReceived. Yeah, it doesn't want to open for me either. In the InDesign Debug build, it reports some stuff that encourages the idea that the document is just corrupt:
VOS_StyleReference::ReadWrite - fLength > 0
Inconsist vos disk page length and vos obj lengths.
Inconsist vos disk page length and vos obj lengths.
VOS_StyleReference::ReadWrite - fLength > 0
Inconsist vos disk page length and vos obj lengths.
VOSDiskPage::TotalLength() - fTotalLength is incorrect!
VOSDiskPage::TotalLength() - fTotalLength is incorrect!
VOSDiskPage::TotalLength() - fTotalLength is incorrect!
VOSDiskPage::TotalLength() - fTotalLength is incorrect!
zero length run
VOSDiskPage::TotalLength() - fTotalLength is incorrect!
zero length run
VOSDiskPage::TotalLength() - fTotalLength is incorrect!
VOSDiskPage::TotalLength() - fTotalLength is incorrect!
VOSDiskPage::TotalLength() - fTotalLength is incorrect!
VOSDiskPage::TotalLength() - fTotalLength is incorrect!
VOSDiskPage::TotalLength() - fTotalLength is incorrect!
Somewhat surprisingly, I was able to convince it to keep trying... curiously, I'd bever thought to try exactly this approach, which was to fire up gdb and force stack frames to "return." (Gosh, I hope that's not a EULA violation).
I sent you a re-saved version of the file.
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Data Merge Crashing with InDesign CC 9.2
Since I've updated to InDesign CC 9.2, ID crashes when attempting data merges. It's happened on both my Mac computer at work and my personal Mac laptop. I changed out my lists to make sure it wasn't something with my csv file and it still crashed.
I also opened a file that I had successfully merged before doing the update. It crashed when I attempted to create that merged document as well.
As a workaround to get my project done, I was able to make an IDML file from my CC file and open it in CS6 and successfully create my merged document from that.
Anybody else having this issue or know of any fixes or is it a wait for the next version and bug fixes thing?
Thanks in advance.Exact same issue here. InDesign CC crashes right after the merge every single time.
Backsaved file and opened in InDesign 6 – merged like a charm.
Adobe, please fix the bug in CC.
Thanks!
Process:
Adobe InDesign CC [956]
Path:
/Applications/Adobe InDesign CC/Adobe InDesign CC.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CC
Identifier:
com.adobe.InDesign
Version:
9.2.0.69 (9200)
Code Type:
X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [131]
User ID:
502
Date/Time:
2014-01-29 11:39:53.838 -0600
OS Version:
Mac OS X 10.8.5 (12F45)
Report Version: 10
Interval Since Last Report:
91088 sec
Crashes Since Last Report:
1
Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 214878 sec
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 4
Anonymous UUID:
0B8A413F-AA3A-D340-5BE6-B511CB5CE317
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000
Application Specific Information:
*** CFRetain() called with NULL ***
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 com.apple.CoreFoundation
0x00007fff8e8c1acd CFRetain + 29
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation
0x00007fff8e8cdd57 __CFDictionaryStandardRetainValue + 71
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation
0x00007fff8e8cdb8a __CFBasicHashAddValue + 1226
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation
0x00007fff8e8d4268 CFBasicHashAddValue + 3176
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation
0x00007fff8e8d358d CFDictionaryAddValue + 189
5 com.adobe.InDesign.Document Framework
0x00000001107bb553 0x110697000 + 1197395
6 com.adobe.InDesign.Document Framework
0x00000001107bb117 0x110697000 + 1196311
7 com.adobe.InDesign.AppFramework
0x000000010ba87415 0x10ba60000 + 160789
8 com.adobe.InDesign.AppFramework
0x000000010ba868e3 0x10ba60000 + 157923
9 PublicLib.dylib
0x00000001011ae781 CSubject::Change(IDType<ClassID_tag>, IDType<PMIID_tag> const&, void*) + 81
10 com.adobe.InDesign.Document Framework
0x00000001107dab2f 0x110697000 + 1325871
11 com.adobe.InDesign.Document Framework
0x00000001107d8fd4 0x110697000 + 1318868
12 PublicLib.dylib
0x00000001010efd01 Command::DoImmediate(short) + 33
13 com.adobe.InDesign.Utilities
0x00000001087a541c 0x1087a3000 + 9244
14 com.adobe.InDesign.Utilities
0x00000001087a55a5 0x1087a3000 + 9637
15 com.adobe.InDesign.AppFramework
0x000000010ba6bb1f 0x10ba60000 + 47903
16 PublicLib.dylib
0x00000001010eefc0 CmdUtils::ProcessCommand(ICommand*) + 64
17 com.adobe.InDesign.Document Framework
0x00000001107d9c77 0x110697000 + 1322103
18 com.adobe.InDesign.DataMerge
0x000000011808c51d 0x11804d000 + 259357
19 com.adobe.InDesign.DataMerge
0x000000011808c3a1 0x11804d000 + 258977
20 com.adobe.InDesign.DataMerge
0x000000011808b1ab 0x11804d000 + 254379
21 com.adobe.InDesign.DataMergeUI
0x0000000118112fbb 0x11810e000 + 20411
22 com.adobe.InDesign.DataMergeUI
0x00000001181114e4 0x11810e000 + 13540
23 com.adobe.InDesign.Actions
0x0000000116d80189 0x116d69000 + 94601
24 com.adobe.InDesign.DataMergeUI
0x000000011812d866 0x11810e000 + 129126
25 com.adobe.InDesign.AppFramework
0x000000010ba87415 0x10ba60000 + 160789
26 com.adobe.InDesign.AppFramework
0x000000010ba868e3 0x10ba60000 + 157923
27 PublicLib.dylib
0x00000001011ae781 CSubject::Change(IDType<ClassID_tag>, IDType<PMIID_tag> const&, void*) + 81
28 com.adobe.InDesign.DV_Widgets
0x00000001166b1e8c 0x1166ab000 + 28300
29 com.adobe.InDesign.DV_Widgets
0x00000001166b29a3 0x1166ab000 + 31139
30 com.adobe.InDesign.DV_Widgets
0x00000001166b2a61 0x1166ab000 + 31329
31 DV_WidgetBinLib.dylib
0x000000010005c0cc DVIconSuiteButtonView::ChangeControls(short) + 92
32 DV_WidgetBinLib.dylib
0x000000010005d709 0x100037000 + 157449
33 com.adobe.dvaui.framework
0x00000001009dcebf dvaui::controls::UI_ControlView::SendControlMessages(dvacore::utility::SharedFunctions<bo ost::shared_ptr<boost::function<void (dvaui::ui::MessageT<dvaui::ui::UI_Node>*)> > > const&, dvaui::ui::MessageT<dvaui::ui::UI_Node>*) + 63
34 com.adobe.dvaui.framework
0x00000001009b986c dvaui::controls::UI_Button::SendButtonChangedMessage(dvacore::utility::Flags<unsigned char>) + 76
35 com.adobe.dvaui.framework
0x00000001009b89dc dvaui::controls::UI_Button::PerformAction(bool, dvacore::utility::Flags<unsigned char>, bool) + 108
36 com.adobe.dvaui.framework
0x00000001009b9412 dvaui::controls::ButtonInputCapture::End() + 146
37 com.adobe.dvaui.framework
0x0000000100bbc7c7 dvaui::ui::EventCapture::InvokeEnd(bool) + 135
38 com.adobe.dvaui.framework
0x0000000100bc5e75 dvaui::ui::UI_NodeManager::EndInputCapture(bool) + 101
39 com.adobe.dvaui.framework
0x00000001009b9609 dvaui::controls::ButtonInputCapture::DoMouseEvent(dvaui::ui::MouseEvent const&) + 281
40 com.adobe.dvaui.framework
0x0000000100bd018a dvaui::ui::UI_Node::UI_DispatchCapturedMouseEvent(dvaui::ui::MouseEvent const&) + 650
41 com.adobe.dvaui.framework
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42 com.adobe.dvaui.framework
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44 com.adobe.dvaui.framework
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45 com.adobe.dvaui.framework
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49 com.adobe.InDesign.Application UI
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52 com.adobe.dvaui.framework
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59 com.adobe.InDesign.Application UI
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1 libsystem_c.dylib
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3 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore
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7 libsystem_c.dylib
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1 com.apple.CoreFoundation
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2 libsystem_c.dylib
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Thread 7:: UxTech Queue ThreadController
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Thread 8:: UxTech Queue ThreadController
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1 libsystem_c.dylib
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10 libsystem_c.dylib
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Thread 14:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x00007fff983cd0fa __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib
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8 com.adobe.boost_threads.framework
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10 libsystem_c.dylib
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0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
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1 libsystem_c.dylib
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6 libsystem_c.dylib
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Thread 16:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
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10 ServiceManager-Launcher.dylib
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Thread 27:
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1 com.adobe.PDFL
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2 com.adobe.PDFL
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5 libsystem_c.dylib
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6 libsystem_c.dylib
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Thread 28:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x00007fff983cb6c2 semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1 com.adobe.PDFL
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3 com.adobe.PDFL
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6 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff8dcb31a1 thread_start + 13
Thread 29:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x00007fff983cb6c2 semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1 com.adobe.ACE
0x0000000101b263c7 ACEHasFeature + 533191
2 com.adobe.ACE
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3 com.adobe.ACE
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4 libsystem_c.dylib
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5 libsystem_c.dylib
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Thread 30:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
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1 com.adobe.ACE
0x0000000101b263c7 ACEHasFeature + 533191
2 com.adobe.ACE
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3 com.adobe.ACE
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4 libsystem_c.dylib
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5 libsystem_c.dylib
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Thread 31:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x00007fff983cb6c2 semaphore_wait_trap + 10
1 com.adobe.ACE
0x0000000101b263c7 ACEHasFeature + 533191
2 com.adobe.ACE
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3 com.adobe.ACE
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4 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff8dcc6772 _pthread_start + 327
5 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff8dcb31a1 thread_start + 13
Thread 32:: MPSupport Worker
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x00007fff983cd0fa __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff8dccafb9 _pthread_cond_wait + 869
2 MultiProcessor Support
0x00000001327aafbb 0x132765000 + 286651
3 MultiProcessor Support
0x00000001327aae73 0x132765000 + 286323
4 MultiProcessor Support
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5 libsystem_c.dylib
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6 libsystem_c.dylib
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Thread 33:: MPSupport Worker
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
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1 libsystem_c.dylib
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2 MultiProcessor Support
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3 MultiProcessor Support
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4 MultiProcessor Support
0x00000001327caf04 0x132765000 + 417540
5 libsystem_c.dylib
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6 libsystem_c.dylib
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Thread 34:: MPSupport Worker
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1 libsystem_c.dylib
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4 MultiProcessor Support
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5 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff8dcc6772 _pthread_start + 327
6 libsystem_c.dylib
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Thread 35:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x00007fff983cd0fa __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff8dccafb9 _pthread_cond_wait + 869
2 com.adobe.InDesign.AppFramework
0x000000010bb59a82 0x10ba60000 + 1022594
3 com.adobe.InDesign.AppFramework
0x000000010bb59128 0x10ba60000 + 1020200
4 com.adobe.InDesign.AppFramework
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7 com.adobe.InDesign.AppFramework
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8 com.adobe.boost_threads.framework
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10 libsystem_c.dylib
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Thread 36:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x00007fff983cd0fa __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_c.dylib
0x00007fff8dccafb9 _pthread_cond_wait + 869
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4 com.adobe.InDesign.AppFramework
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9 libsystem_c.dylib
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10 libsystem_c.dylib
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Thread 37:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib
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1 libsystem_c.dylib
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Thread 38:
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1 libsystem_c.dylib
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Multi-page tables crashing in InDesign
Could anyone please provide some general advice about working with multi-page tables in InDesign, which appear to be very unstable.
Over the past year or so, my team and I have worked with InDesign 5 and 5.5 on both Mac (10.6) and Windows (XP and 7) machines. In that time we have found if there’s one thing that will cause InDesign to crash it’s a table that runs over several pages and particularly (though not exclusively) if it’s got merged cells. Add that extra row, merge that extra cell, even just insert your text cursor as you prepare to change some text and InDesign seems to reach a point where the “straw breaks the donkey’s back” and it falls over. At least it usually has the courtesy to reopen at exactly the point where the crash occurs with all the other changes that have been made still in place, whether they have been manually saved or not.
The really weird thing is that sometimes the same file will crash on all the machines at the same point (as you would expect) but sometimes the files which crash on Windows machines will work fine on Macs and the files which crash on Macs will work fine on Windows machines. There doesn’t appear to be much of a consistent pattern to what’s going on.
However, the solutions are always the same. First, unmerge any merged cells and adjust the border/fill commands to hide the fact they are now unmerged and then, if that doesn’t work, split the table up into separate chunks and put them into a separate text box on each page - that always seems to fix the problem, although the benefits of linked text boxes are now lost.
I’ve had a scoot round the web and on these forums and whilst I can find quite a lot of material on this topic, there doesn’t appear to be anything that relates to our issue directly. I realise that I haven’t given specific information on what happens to us because it’s just something that happens every so often and we’re usually working so fast that there’s no time to carry out a detailed analysis of what’s going on, we just fix it and carry on. I’d be grateful if anyone could offer a general overview of what’s happening and maybe suggest some preventative measures we could take to reduce/eliminate the chances of this happening in the future.
As always, thanks in advance for any and all advice offered.Hi folks,
I have a similar problem with several dokuments running tables over 20 to 30 pages. Since InDesign CS5 I have crashes on random times and issues. I have built up the whole Document from scratch, because I thought saving them from older versions might cause the problem. I have started with a new document editing a table that runs over 5 pages with no merged cells in it which I had before. Now InDesign starts to crash again.
– It crashes when I type more text than fits in the table cell
– It crashes when I try to apply the standard paragraph style
– It crashes altough I have saved an .idml-File to clean it
– The problem appears in CS6 and CC also
– I have tried copy/paste to a new document, which worked until I copied a particular table row. Then it started to crash again.
Something weird I recognized is that all umlauts (I'm writing german text) are shown with wrong symbols in Story Editor (Textmodus) but not in the table itself. Maybe there lies the main problem? -
I am running Indesign CC on a Windows 7 PC.
I am a magazine designer and i build 100 page documents and work on a single document for 2 months at a time. Of late i am constantly having problems with my files crashing when i am trying to move content from one document to the other. I save back up copies and split documents in two and none of this is helping. It is constantly happening to my documents.
I have tried a variety of ways of moving content from one file to another to try and stop it form happening.
I have rebuilt whole 100 page magazine files to try and fix corrupt documents but then the same thing happens with my new documents. I have uni-stalled and re-installed Indesign too to try and save a whole magazine file. I
What is going on and what can i do to fix this? I am wasting HOURS trying to work around Indesigns constant problems.
I pay so much for the use of the software and all it does it waste my time, it is driving me bloody crazy.!! Does this happen with anyone else??
I have no confidence now after working on a magazine for 2 months that the next time i open it the file is going to be okay to work with.
HELP!! So frustratedFirst, see Remove minor corruption by exporting
Second, if you are updating legacy files, it works better if you export the originals to .idml or .inx in the original version and convert that. If that's not possible, export to .idml immediately after opening a legacy file.
Third, do a Save As to a new new name (I use versioning numbers for a back-up chain) at every major change change point or at the end of each editing session. This clears out useless change data that becomes inaccessible and leads to file bloat and potential corruption as well as providing the built-in backup chain in case something goes wrong.
Fourth, make sure ID is updated to the latest patch. They keep fixing bugs...
Fifth, and you may already be doing this, use a template file instead of "recycling" an old issue into a new one. Opening an old file and doing a Save As to begin a new issue over and over again is a good way to have small corruptions accumulate. Stable as ID is, it's not perfect, and eventually this method will fail you. Using a Template file means each issue is a 2nd generation copy of a clean original and much less likely to have problems.
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