Indirect Materials process in BOM and Production

Hi Experts,
I just have a question regarding SAP B1 process in Production. Let say I have an item we call it indirect material, then in BOM this indirect material is not included but in Production order the cost of this indirect material should be included. Can you suggest a better way on how we gonna treat this in SAP B1?
Thanks,
horhe
Edited by: sapsaphorhe on Jul 22, 2011 5:02 AM

Hi Horhe......
Welcome to SAP Business One Forum........
The costing of the produced material affects in the production process. So if your one of the component items is irrespective of BOM then you can plan it on Production Order level.
It is not necessary to have this item in BOM, but it is important to take that item in production order when you plan it.......
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