Inserting crop marks on an image

I know this should be breathtakingly straightforward, but I
seem to have been hit with the stupid stick this afternoon. Can
someone please take pity on this idiot and let me know how to add
crop marks to a jpg image?
Many thanks.

Fireworks has not been designed for commercial printing
purposes (or
amateur ones either, in most cases). Ideally, an app such as
InDesign,
or Pagemaker or Freehand(or even Photoshop, which supports
CMYK) would
be a better choice.
The printer is aware that you can only send them an RGB file
from
Fireworks, yes? If the printer is ok with this, then I wish
you well. :-)
FW is deigned for working on screen graphics. To see how far
embedded
this concept is within FIreworks, look no furhter than the
rulers. They
ONLY display in pixels.
That said, I've had success when sending to a photo lab (not
a
commercial, ink on paper printer), and someone else has
enjoyed success
sending his artwork via Fireworks as well. The process can be
somewhat
hit and miss, however, and many commercial printers will not
accept an
RGB file to begin with.
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TrentSC wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestion. The image has to go to a
printer, so I need to get it right.
>
> I know you're being helpful, but could you explain what
you meant by dragging in the guides?
>
> Cheers.

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Inserting Crop Marks for Publishing

My publisher has asked me to find out whether Aperture software is capable of inserting crop marks before saving the PDF file to send to the publisher.
Many thanks for help on this topic.
W.

It cannot. However you could create a print workflow that does it using Automator.
Use the PDF:Add Watermark action and instead of using a watermark, use an image that has the crop marks. There is probaably third party software that can do this to PDFs *** well.

Crop Marks on the image

Hi All
I am producing some exhibition panels and our printer would like the crop marks actually on the image. When I export to PDF the crop marks appear in a white area around the image - is there any way I can remove that white area and show the crop marks on the image?
Thanks

Daniel lists two choices. A third choice is to use InDesign's custom cropmarks feature, which came up twice today! Wow!
See http://forums.adobe.com/message/3637984#3637984, etc. for some more details. It is a bit tricky to set up, but works well once it is done.
I'd like to second Daniel's second post:
We're approaching a point where a screen shot of your pdf's might be worth a thousand words.
Please post a mock-up of what you want, it would be very much more helpful!
Macinbytes wrote:
If you have illustrator you can remove the marks. InDesign's marks will
be .25 pt Registration 100% stroke and have a 1.25 pt Registration 0%
stroke behind them.
If I may, I would like to strongly disagree with this suggestion. Illustrator is not a tool for generic editing of PDF files. It has been known to cause problems when editing mildly complicated InDesign documents, and the set of PDF files it can edit and operations it can perform is not a superset of InDesign's. It is partially overlapping.
Also, any hand-editing of marks is going to be a pain. Why include the marks if you are just going to remove them? Mark them in InDesign as Peter suggests.

Printer/Crop Mark Question

Hi all,
I searched through the topics and found a post that was
talking about the crop mark. I have the same problem here, whenever
i go to print>freehand MX>advanced, all that i find is just a
small window called "print preview" that's it. There's no
separations, paper setup, imaging, etc. I tried to open the same
dialog at my school and it has those features.
Judy wrote:
>What is your platform and OS?
>If you are on Mac OS X, did you add the printer using the
Print Setup
>Utility? Is the correct PPD chosen for that printer?
It's OS X and yes, i installed the drivers (I own Epson R1800
and HP Psc 1200 series) and then add them using printer setup
utility. I also use apple airport express to print wirelessly.
My questions:
1. Does it have to be a post-script printer to have those
features? (imaging, crop marks, etc)
2. Does printing wirelessly affect this on Freehand MX?
(doesn't affect my adobe cs2 applications though)
3. What can i do/try to have those features?
p.s. I read about the Xtra but i'm trying to get my Freehand
"fixed" here =)
Thank you
Harry

Thr crop marks will not show unless you have a postscript
printer. If you are sending the job to a commercial printer they
will insert crop marks. If you are printing yourself and require
crop marks you can insert them with a PDF making application such
as Adobe Acrobat Professional. If you don't have that there is an
open source application called PDF maker which you can download at
www.freedomleague.org.za or at least find a link from that
site.

Crop mark on image when exporting to PDF

When I export my INDD file to PDF, crop marks appear on one of the images (an EPS file) in the converted document. The crop marks do not appear in the INDD file, nor are they part of the original EPS file. Any idea what's happening and how to get rid of it?

Screen shots would help here, but the first thing I would try is replace the EPS file with a native file format, either .al for vector or .psd for raster, or PDF for mixed content.

Is there a way to insert printer's 'crop' marks in Page document?

Making a booklet. Printer needs crop marks and bleed. Is there some easy way to make a set of crop marks for a single page ... that can be easily translated through all the pages of the document?
Ben

Can one set Pages to RGB \ CMYK? Where?
The page description models of Adobe PostScript, Apple QuickDraw Graphics Extension, and Adobe Portable Document Format are object oriented. Conceptually, there is no such thing as a global colourant model for object oriented page description models.
To control colour in an object oriented page description model that supports the intelligent separation model of the International Color Consortium, capture and correct images into a source CIELab or RGB colour space of your choice.
Place RGB objects in pagination properly tagged with their source ICC profiles and include the ICC profile for the intended printing condition as a PDF/X-3 OutputIntent using the ColorSync Utility export process (take care to revisit the export filter to see if the printing condition is correct).
This way all objects in the pagination are converted into the correct ink limit, gray balance, highlight soft clipping, shadow soft clipping and compression of colour contrasts for the lightness range and colour gamut of the printing condition.
"ColorSync is an RGB peg in a CMYK hole" - John Gnaegy, ColorSync List Master.
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Henrik Holmegaard
technical writer

Crop Marks – is this how they work?

I haven't had to use crop marks before – my books have been printed on sheets the same size as the InDesign page. Now however, I am about to print a small book, 4-Up, on sheets larger than the page size, so I will need to add crop marks. I want to run my understanding of how to place crop marks on the page and how they will be used by the guillotine man, past some of the experts on this forum.
And before anyone says: "Crop marks are the printer's job. Just let him do it", or somesuch comment – in this case it's not the printer's job, it's mine. I've chosen to do everything: the writing, the layout, purchase of the paper (910 x 650 sheets), the cutting of the paper, the imposition, the printing, arranging the cutting of the sheets, and then the binding. So, I need to know about crop marks. This is what I have discovered, or guessed (please correct me if I'm wrong):
Assume a page size in InDesign of 100 x 200 mm. When you export to PDF and tick Crop Marks and set Offset to a certain dimension, two things happen:
The page size is increased to (100 + 2 (Offset + 5.3)) in width, and (200 + 2 (Offset + 5.3)) in height. In the case of an offset of 5 mm, the page dimensions of the PDF become 120.6 x 220.6 mm.
Crop marks of 5.3mm in length (5/12"), are placed at the four corners of the new page pointing inwards to the original page size. Thus, in this case, there is a gap of 5mm, the chosen offset, between the end of the crop marks and the original page. This offset allows for movement of the sheets during printing, so that when the crops are made the crop marks won't appear on any of the pages. i.e. the offset is greater than the expected sheet movement.
The guillotine man, when he comes to cut the sheets, lines up the narrow beam of light from the guillotine with one of the crop marks – and cuts that edge. Now there are only two crop marks left because two have been cut off in this first cut.
The guillotine man then rotates the sheets 90º and cuts again. Now there is only one crop mark left.
The sheets are again rotated, the beam of light lined up with the remaining crop mark, and the third cut is made. There are no more crop marks left.
For the final cut, the sheets are rotated 90º, but as there are no crop marks left, the appropriate dimension has to be entered into the guillotine (or marked out on the top sheet), and the cut is made.
I have yet to confirm with my guillotine man that steps 3-6 describe how he will do it. That's simply how I imagine it would happen. And in the case of 4-Up, a couple of extra cuts will be needed in the centre, depending on how the imposed pages are positioned.
Is the above an accurate description of how crop marks are inserted and how they are used?

Thanks for the responses.
Stix: Personally if adding Crop marks in InDesign (I prefer to use an imposition program) I like to make them even numbers, e.g. 3mm offset and 7mm long crop marks, whoch give a PDF size that is bigger by 10mm on each side.
Yes, it would make it easier if numbers were whole integers. But how do you tell InDesign to make a certain-length crop mark? I assumed it was fixed at 30 point (5/24" = 5.292 mm).
cdflash: I'm sure there are good answers to all of these questions but they are not in the opening post.
I tried to keep my question as simple as possible, hence I didn't elaborate. But to answer some of your queries…
Or is the OP going to impose each sheet with 24 pages to view?… I am imposing using only InDesign using a method I developed. It's a very flexible method and works beautifully for 2-Up and 4-Up. Some of the imposition software I trialled several years ago was highly sus and not capable, for example, of generating variable-length signatures. I suppose the up-market programs would be okay, but I can't justify spending thousands on a program I might only use a few times.
Out of interest: can the software you suggested, Creo Preps, impose with these signature lengths: 6,6,4,4,4,8 (numbers of sheets per signature; total 128 pages)?
How many pages are in the book? How many copies of the book are required?… Size of Coracina is 148.5mm x 191 mm, 128 pages, 50 copies. The figures I gave for page size were examples only.
… and impose so that the pages get cut out as single pages and then hand-collated?… Printed sheets are 4-Up on SRA3. I chose SRA3 late in the piece when the printer told me that the click-charge was the same no matter what the paper size. Prior to that I was intending to print on A4. Printing costs are now halved.
Why is the OP handling this and not the printer?… I like a challenge, I like to be in control of the process, I like to learn, and I like to save money.
Tanksinker
Check out the images at the bottom of https://sites.google.com/site/tanksinker/Home/max-burns-tanksinker if you'd like to see how I make a book. Doing it all myself results in huge savings. Tanksinker cost me about $10,000 all up, only half of which I got back in sales. It's a hobby. I don't expect or want to profit from it. To print 50 copies of Tanksinker commercially, judging by what a local offset printer told me, would have cost $50k-100k for the plates alone (2 proofs, 400x4 plates each proof, $20-30/plate).
Coracina
I have been to see the guillotine man after reading all the posts above, and he confirmed that the crop marks I was using would be suitable (I just drew them on a piece of paper; I didn't show him the real thing). He did make a useful suggestion: he would trim the SRA3 sheet along the top and bottom of each book-spread (4 horizontal trims), but not trim to the left and right crop marks (vertical trims) because that would be done anyway when trimming the fore-edge after the book was sewn and glued.
A sample page of Coracina, with crop marks ready for printing, can be downloaded here: http://www.mediafire.com/?5eidx1c61o7jrjx
Printing of the first three copies is tomorrow morning, Tasmania time. If the crop marks on the sample, or any other aspect of the layout looks in any way sus or likely to cause problems, please let me know.
Oh, and I should add that Coracina is my partner's book. Way too girly for me. I'm just the technical consultant, shall I say.

How do I print a pdf without the standard crop marks that appear when I have created it in Illustrator originally?

Hi
I am so frustrated as I cannot work out why my pdf files that I have created in Illustrator, print out on my printer with crop marks as well as scaling the image to fit them in on the paper. I just want to be able to print it out without the crop marks at the correct and original size it was designed in.
Help Please.

The crop marks are part of the design, no reason why Acrobat wouldn't print them. You could try cropping them out in Acrobat.

EPS file placed within INDD art shows crop marks when exported to PDF

Hi Friends -
I have a INDD art file I'm working on, within which I placed an EPS image. Upon exporting the INDD art to PDF, the document has what appear to be crop marks surrounding the EPS image. This is not where the image should be cut, and these marks are being shown in a functional part of the design. Here is a screenshot of one corner of the EPS; the other 3 corners have identical marks:
Additional information:
- MS Windows 7 Enterprise SP1
- InDesign CS5.5 Version 7.5.3
- Marks are generated during export process/conversion to PDF; they are not visible in InDesign.
- EPS file does not create these crop marks when placed into another INDD file and exported using the same process as above.
- No other elements of the INDD file have similar marks displayed after export.
Any help with where I might find the setting in INDD to turn this OFF would be greatly appreciated!
D

That was probably the most expeditious reply I've ever received in a forum.
Anyhow, the crop marks are not part of the actual EPS image. Opening the EPS file in PS or AI reveals no stray crop marks so, unless the marks are somehow part of the EPS settings rather than a visible element of the image, I think it has something to do with INDD and its settings. To confirm, I did place this EPS in another INDD document and an export procedure utilizing the same steps does not reproduce the crop marks.

Crop Marks not in correct place when Bleed applied - possible Bug/Error?

Apologies if anyone has posted this elsewhere - I checked the Help, FAQ, Forums and Googled it - but I really can't find a solution to this minor problem I'm having.
I have created a document that will be cut to 120mm x 120mm, I wanted to include a 10mm bleed around it so I made my Photoshop doc 140mm x 140mm.
When I go to the Print dialogue I have checked "Corner Crop Marks", set the bleed to 10mm and in the preview I can see that the crop marks are inside the image, marking out the correct 120x120 area. However, when I click Print the marks appear on the paper at the 140mm x 140mm area.
Has anyone else had this error, and even more importantly, has anyone found a solution?
I am using Photoshop CS3 (a site license of Web Premium), on a Mac G5 running Windows XP SP2. I have other machines & Photoshop versions available, I am going to test it on them to try and find out where the problem lies.
I am producing guides to using Photoshop at the moment and I don't want to include something that can't be done!
Kev Gilmour

Wow... I'm using Photoshop CS5 for Windows and have just encountered this very same problem. The print preview shows the corner crop marks in the correct location as designated by the Bleed... setting (.1"); but when I print, the bleed setting gets ignored and the corner crop marks revert to the outer edges of the image.
This happens when I print to my Epson color laser or to my Brother b/w laser. It occurred to me to try one other test - and interestingly enough, when I printed to a PDF, the corner marks appeared correctly in the output!
So far, I haven't found any other information on this apparent bug besides this ancient thread.
Anyone willing to test this out and give their results? Thanks!
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Crop marks, color management, .psd files

Hi.
Working in AI 10. Have XP. PS7
I have my color settings set at the North America Prepress 2 for every adobe program except AI 10 because it is not listed. I have it on the North America Prepress without the "2"
I have been told that if I create a PS document that needs crop marks, to simply place it into AI & create the crop marks there for the printer if I need to show bleeds.
When I print the AI file with crop marks, the color does not match the PS file printed.
Is there anything I can do?

And you've double-checked your color settings (not just the overall preset but the individual options)?
One way to make sure you have the same settings in both apps is to save out a color settings file (.csf) in one application and apply it in the other. Just hit the SAVE button in the color settings dialog and give your settings a unique name before saving it to a location that you can easily find again. In the corresponding dialog in your other application, use the LOAD button.
I have PS 7-10 and AI 8/10/12 on a machine here, so, just to make sure, I just did a quick test with a CMYK image with the same versions as you. I show no color shift whatsoever between the PSD opened in Photoshop and placed in Illustrator.
As to the jagged text, realize that you're not looking at editable text once you've placed the PSD in AI. It's just part of the raster image at that point. Therefore, it does not benefit from any AI text anti-aliasing. What you're seeing is the difference in on-screen raster anti-aliasing between PS 7 and AI 10. This does not affect the printout.
I'm sorry, but without seeing your settings, I have little else to suggest.
P.S. - I see you are comparing printouts from the two applications. Since you are working in CMYK, I assume you're printing to a PostScript device. If not, you might be looking at slight differences in the way PS 7 and AI 10 deal with sending CMYK data to an RGB device (such as a typical desktop inkjet printer).
If you
are printing to a PostScript proofer, I'd ask to see your print-time settings in both applications.
If your printing company wants the AI file, send it to them and ask them for a digital contract proof before committing to press.

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I have never used crop marks before. I am trying to do an Illustrator tutorial intended for CS3. The instructions say:
"Select the square, and in the Menu go Filter > Create > Crop Marks. Increase the square size to 4.125in by 3.875in. This square will be the size of our image, which is 1/8in larger than the crop marks. This ensures no white-space when you or the printers cut these labels out."
I found a way to make crop marks in CS6 using effect>cropmarks. The problem is when I increase the size of the square it also increases the crop marks. But it says in the square will be 1/8in larger than the crop marks. What am I doing wrong?

The instruction sounds a little odd they are referring to a bleed that is normally 1/8 inch larger than the caual trim size.
Their description is misleading from what isee since the neglected to mention bleed. Of course if everything is within the safe area then there is no need for bleed.
Here is a video showing what i think they left out or it is not visible in the text you display.
http://www.wadezimmerman.com/videos/CropMarks10UpLables.mov

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Hi,
I resized my document from a 8.5 x 11 to a 11 x 14 and then scaled the business card on it up 280% to fit in the new document size in Adobe Illustrator CS2. Everything is working fine except that my existing crop marks for the business card stayed the same size as the business card 3.5 x 2 so how do I remove these? I don't need them anymore.
I will be having this printed so do I need to insert print marks or anything like that?
Thanks in advance,
ashmic19

It worked! Thanks so much ScottW. I have no idea what it did but it worked. Thanks again!
ashmic19

Changing all document color to CMYK + inserting corner marks

I have two queries regarding Illustrator:
1) I have a document including both pantone and CMYK colors, as well as both traditional black and process black. How do I convert all color in the document to CMYK?
2) I have sent material to our priting house for new envelopes but they stress that marks are missing in the corners. How do I insert such marks?
I use Illustrator CS3 v.13.0.2 with Windows XP on a HP XW4400 Workstation.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Best regards
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Select all the spot colours in the Swatches panel and choose "Swatch Options" from the flyout menu. Make the swatches Process instead of Spot.
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