Integrating Nik plug-ins into an Aperture workflow

Hi. In his response to a [posted question|http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2746051&tstart=0] about noise reduction, forum guru William Lloyd spoke highly of the Nik plug-ins.
I also like them alot, but have stopped using them and don't recommend them because they do not integrate into my Aperture workflow in any usable way. The suite of plug-ins (there are six, iirc) are designed to be used step-wise -- and therein lies the problem. Because of what I take to be a glitch in Aperture, any changes made within Aperture to an image edited and returned by a plug-in are lost when that image is sent back out to another plug-in. (The work-around is klugly: you have to create a new Version prior to every use of a plug-in other than the first use.)
I love the Nik tools (and paid dear for them), but haven't been able to find the right place for them on my workbench. William -- or anyone -- how have you integrated the Nik plug-ins into your Aperture workflow?
I am considering "upgrading" my Nik suite to the Photoshop edition in order to take advantage of all the tools. I'm pretty sure used w. Photoshop, the tools create editable layers. The upgrade, however, doubles the already expensive cost of the suite (and the Aperture→Photoshop→Nik→Photoshop→Nik→Photoshop→Nik→Photoshop→Aperture trip is sure to be cumbersome).
My goal is simple: to be able to take full advantage of the Nik tools while taking full advantage of Aperture. Any advice greatly appreciated.
TIA, and cheers.

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Process:
Aperture [277]
Path:
/Applications/Aperture.app/Contents/MacOS/Aperture
Identifier:
com.apple.Aperture
Version:
3.4.3 (3.4.3)
Build Info:
Aperture-310022000000000~2
App Item ID:
408981426
App External ID: 12009533
Code Type:
X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [130]
PlugIn Path:
/Library/Application Support/Aperture/*/Viveza2
PlugIn Identifier: com.google.Viveza2.aperture_edit
PlugIn Version:
2.1 (2.100)
Date/Time:
2013-03-30 07:48:00.611 +0000
OS Version:
Mac OS X 10.7.5 (11G63)
Report Version: 9
Interval Since Last Report:
94513 sec
Crashes Since Last Report:
34
Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 13568 sec
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   15
Anonymous UUID:
5EADB6B4-F3B5-414C-9592-FCD81A169A8A
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Application Specific Information:
objc[277]: garbage collection is OFF
Performing @selector(a_editWithPlugIn:) from sender NSMenuItem 0x7ff4b82ceb00
terminate called throwing an exception
abort() called
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Thread 12:
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0x000000010b773bca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib
0x000000010b62b2a6 _pthread_cond_wait + 890
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0x0000000108468282 -[XTThread run:] + 329
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Thread 13:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x000000010b773bca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib
0x000000010b62b274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
2   com.google.Viveza2.aperture_edit
0x00000001419dc3f2 nikHostInterface::getWorkingProfile() + 152196
3   com.google.Viveza2.aperture_edit
0x00000001419ed5ee nikHostInterface::getWorkingProfile() + 222336
4   com.google.Viveza2.aperture_edit
0x0000000141a21d70 boost::thread::start_thread() + 382
5   libsystem_c.dylib
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6   libsystem_c.dylib
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Thread 14:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x000000010b773bca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib
0x000000010b62b274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
2   com.google.Viveza2.aperture_edit
0x00000001419dc3f2 nikHostInterface::getWorkingProfile() + 152196
3   com.google.Viveza2.aperture_edit
0x00000001419ed5ee nikHostInterface::getWorkingProfile() + 222336
4   com.google.Viveza2.aperture_edit
0x0000000141a21d70 boost::thread::start_thread() + 382
5   libsystem_c.dylib
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Thread 15:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x000000010b773bca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib
0x000000010b62b274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
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0x00000001419dc3f2 nikHostInterface::getWorkingProfile() + 152196
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0x00000001419ed5ee nikHostInterface::getWorkingProfile() + 222336
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Thread 16:
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0x000000010b773bca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib
0x000000010b62b274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
2   com.google.Viveza2.aperture_edit
0x00000001419dc3f2 nikHostInterface::getWorkingProfile() + 152196
3   com.google.Viveza2.aperture_edit
0x00000001419ed5ee nikHostInterface::getWorkingProfile() + 222336
4   com.google.Viveza2.aperture_edit
0x0000000141a21d70 boost::thread::start_thread() + 382
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Thread 17:
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0x000000010b773bca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib
0x000000010b62b274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
2   com.google.Viveza2.aperture_edit
0x00000001419dc3f2 nikHostInterface::getWorkingProfile() + 152196
3   com.google.Viveza2.aperture_edit
0x00000001419ed87f nikHostInterface::getWorkingProfile() + 222993
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0x0000000141a21d70 boost::thread::start_thread() + 382
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Thread 18:
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0x000000010b773bca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib
0x000000010b62b274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
2   com.google.Viveza2.aperture_edit
0x00000001419dc3f2 nikHostInterface::getWorkingProfile() + 152196
3   com.google.Viveza2.aperture_edit
0x00000001419ed87f nikHostInterface::getWorkingProfile() + 222993
4   com.google.Viveza2.aperture_edit
0x0000000141a21d70 boost::thread::start_thread() + 382
5   libsystem_c.dylib
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Thread 19:
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0x000000010b773bca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib
0x000000010b62b274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
2   com.google.Viveza2.aperture_edit
0x00000001419dc3f2 nikHostInterface::getWorkingProfile() + 152196
3   com.google.Viveza2.aperture_edit
0x00000001419ed87f nikHostInterface::getWorkingProfile() + 222993
4   com.google.Viveza2.aperture_edit
0x0000000141a21d70 boost::thread::start_thread() + 382
5   libsystem_c.dylib
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Thread 20:
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1   libsystem_c.dylib
0x000000010b629594 _pthread_wqthread + 758
2   libsystem_c.dylib
0x000000010b62ab85 start_wqthread + 13
Thread 21:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x000000010b774192 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib
0x000000010b629594 _pthread_wqthread + 758
2   libsystem_c.dylib
0x000000010b62ab85 start_wqthread + 13
Thread 22:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x000000010b774192 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib
0x000000010b629594 _pthread_wqthread + 758
2   libsystem_c.dylib
0x000000010b62ab85 start_wqthread + 13
Thread 23:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x000000010b774192 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib
0x000000010b629594 _pthread_wqthread + 758
2   libsystem_c.dylib
0x000000010b62ab85 start_wqthread + 13
Thread 24:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x000000010b774192 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib
0x000000010b629594 _pthread_wqthread + 758
2   libsystem_c.dylib
0x000000010b62ab85 start_wqthread + 13
Thread 25:
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0x000000010b773bca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib
0x000000010b62b274 _pthread_cond_wait + 840
2   com.google.Viveza2.aperture_edit
0x00000001419dc3f2 nikHostInterface::getWorkingProfile() + 152196
3   com.google.Viveza2.aperture_edit
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4   com.google.Viveza2.aperture_edit
0x0000000141a21d70 boost::thread::start_thread() + 382
5   libsystem_c.dylib
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6   libsystem_c.dylib
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Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
rax: 0x0000000000000000 rbx: 0x0000000000000006 rcx: 0x00007fff642766d8 rdx: 0x0000000000000000
rdi: 0x000000000000f603 rsi: 0x0000000000000006 rbp: 0x00007fff64276700 rsp: 0x00007fff642766d8
   r8: 0x000000010b6bdfb8   r9: 0x0000000000000374 r10: 0x000000010b773d0a r11: 0xffffff80002dad60
r12: 0x00007ff4b85223e8 r13: 0x00007fff64276960 r14: 0x000000010b6c0960 r15: 0x00007fff64276850
rip: 0x000000010b773ce2 rfl: 0x0000000000000206 cr2: 0x000000010aa2b000
Logical CPU: 0
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Why do external editors i.e. nik plug-ins disappear from the Edit in menu?

Time and time again , after creating external editors in the Edit in menu, they disappear. I've had this happen in LR3 and now in LR4. Does anyone know of this?

daikambu65 wrote:
Corky, I just tried the path you suggested. I moved the files up one level from LIbrary>Application Assistants>Aperture>Plug Ins>Edit to the Plug Ins folder. It worked.
I can now start the NIK plugins either from the pull-down meny under photo in the Menu Bar, or by right-clicking my mouse.
A slight change of subject. I've got the 200-page book, Exploring Aperture. Also have the downloaded .pdf file of the same book. How is it that, on the Apple Support webpage, they have a .pdf book for Aperture 3.4 that is 800-pages? Did anyone else notice that?
Good to hear you got it working.
The 'Exploring Aperture' is the book that came with Aperture 3 in the retail box (in downloadable form). It goes along with the Sample library that was on the install disc and was designed to walk new users through the basics of the program.
The 800+ page PDF is the actual user's manual which describes all aspects of Aperture 3.4 in detail (although there may be some omissions here and there due to updates since 3.4). I read the original version of the user's manual when it was Aperture 3.0 and it is very informative (especially if you like that kind of reading - which I do).
If you do read through and understand the user's manual PDF, then you will know the program well. You can use the Exploring Aperture book but there will be references to the sample library which you won't have unless you have the retail install disc.
Note - there are books you can buy, but none of them really cover Aperture 3.4.x (a couple were updated for Aperture 3.3, but some significant changes were made that - IMHO - don't make buying those books of more value than just reading the user's manual). It took me about a week of reading each evening to complete it.

Installing Old Plug-ins into CS5

Is it possible to install old plug-ins (plugins) into Adobe Photoshop CS5?
I have tried a couple of my old plug-ins and could not get any to show up under the Filters menu.
I installed to:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS5\Plug-ins
I tried installing Noise Ninja 2.3.2.
I tried installing Kodak GEM AIR Pro.
I tried installing Phototune SkinTun.
No luck with any of them.
I also tried installing a couple to
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CS5 (64 Bit)\Plug-ins\Filters

No one is likely to have a FIX, per se.
32 bit plug-ins only work with 32 bit Photoshop, while only 64 bit plug-ins work with 64 bit Photoshop. I suspect the 32/64 bit mismatch may be at the root of the problem you're seeing, Hawaii-geek.
Plug-ins generally need to be installed in the new version of Photoshop.
For 32 bit plugins, maybe, just MAYBE, for an individual plugin you can find a way to copy the proper file(s) so that Photoshop CS5 will find them under its OWN Plug-ins subfolder. Photoshop enumerates plugins it finds there when it first starts. But this is not a given as a plug-in may set up things other than just the files when it is installed.
The one thing to remember is that you ABSOLUTELY MUST NOT point the "Extra Plug-ins Folder" at the Plug-ins folder of an old Photoshop installation. Doing so will mix plugins supplied with the older Photoshop version with your new Photoshop version, and this WILL cause you problems.
HangtownGal is using that feature right. For simple one-file plugins, you should be able to point every version of Photoshop to a common separate plug-ins folder, but keep in mind the 32 vs. 64 bit issue I mentioned above. As Chris states, 32 bit Photoshop will only load 32 bit plug-ins, and 64 bit Photoshop will only load 64 bit plug-ins (which are reasonably rare still). And keep in mind more complex plugins often are sets of files that are sometimes copied to a number of different places in the Photoshop installation area.
Why is it you think someone else needs to FIX this problem?
Did you not keep the installation package and/or instructions you got with your old plugins? For those that cannot be installed into a Photoshop version that didn't even exist when they were released, have you checked to see if there are updates available from the plugin manufacturers? You may very well have to pay to upgrade these. You paid to upgrade Photoshop, so is that a problem?
-Noel

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