Intercompany third party and sto
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Am i a stage to goto clients place plz send the documents or screen shots for the above,with theoritical explanation,so that i can get confident on him.Plz kindly send to my mail id [email protected] had learned a lot from sdn sd gurus.plz help me .
plz explain intercustomer number how to create which company code which sales area for creating internal customer no all those things theortically
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srinivas
Hi Srinu,
sent good amount of info.....hope this will help u out in ur assignments.
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Ali
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ME59N - Intercompany Third party subcontracting Process
Hi Experts,
In Intercompany third party subcontracting process, PR is created from the sales order. PR has the account assignment category X and Item Category L.
Fixed source of supply exists. Subcontracting Info record has been created.
Material components icon has been deactivated as it is generating from Sales order.
While using ME59N, it throws Requisition could not be converted. One of our collegues told that if the subcontracting item has been automatically generated from SD Module, then ME59N will not convert the PR to PO.
Please let me know if there are any settings needs to be done. Or standard ME59N will not convert the above scenario.
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PrabhuThere is no restrication that Automatic PO will not be created if the PR is created from the Sales Order.
Please elobarate on the exact error you are getting.
However please follow & check if these general settings are in place.
1.Material has the auto PO checked in Material Master.
2. Vendor has the Auto PO checked in Vendor Master.
3.Source list is maintained if material master has source list checked.
4.Valid conditions exist in the Sub Contracting info record.
5.Right variant ex - doctype,Plant etc exist or are entered in ME59N. -
Intercompany Third Party Subcontracting
Hi everybody,
our case is an Inter company third party subcontracting.
Plant A in company code 1000 sends Component X to Plant B in company code 2000.
Plant A asks his third party to send Component Y to Plant B.
Plant B assemble X and Y and deliver finished material Z to Plant A at last.
I proposed SAP standard scenario for third party subcontracting:
1- plant A creates PO (item category L) for material Z and vendor = 'Plant B'.
2- Plant A do transfer posting (ME2O) component X to Plant B. so X would be provided to vendor.
3- Plant A creates PO (third party) for component Y with delivery address = 'Plant B' and also set Plant B as SC Vendor.
4- when Plant B receives component Y, informs Plant A.
5- Plant A do GR based on PO ( third party). so component Y would be provided to vendor.
6- when Plant B sends finished material Z to Plant A, Plant A do GR based on PO (SC). SAP receive Z and consumes X and Y right off.
the Project team didn't accept my scenario for 2 reasons:
1- it is not sap best practice for intercompany subcontracting.
2- they said there is an extra GR in my scenario.I mean when plant A creates PO for third party, and Plant B do GR, the components must be provided to vendor Auto, and there is no need to do GR in plant A place.
please help me.
Does really SAP has another scenario for intercompany third party subcon?you totally miss the production part in plant B.
if your plant B produces material, then they usually do this in the PP module via production or process orders. they have to record the machine ours, the labor , the have to plan etc etc.
How can plant B take the material from subcontractor stock which is just special stock in plant A? What movement type does plant B use to send the produced material to plant A?
Subcontracting via the purchasing module is used for external processing.
You better do standard stock transfers and production instead of the subcontracting process. -
Hi Gurus,
I have a nice scenario here in my project. We are working in project system and plant and maintenance modules in ECC 6.0. The PS netwrok order is created with either of the options-network or third party. Now the scenario for third party is like this- The project wants the vendor to send the the material to directly to the project site and they mention project site address in the network order. Once they release the order- reqs are generated with item category as third party. We are working in extended classic scenario SRM 5.0. so reqs are to be tranfered to SRM and create PO further. My problem is these reqs are getting failed in SRM. These gives an error in SRM in SLG1- "ordering party does not exist".
Note that in network order they don't specify vendor but they only choose option third party and enter the address of the project site. How can I resolve this problem?
2. We are making material tranfers from one plant to another using stock transport order and the plants are assigned to one company only. within the company they are doing tranfer beacuse the plant sites are at different locations. Now for stock trannsport order they create plant as vendor in ECC using XK01 and assing supplying plant to this vendor. Then they create a work order in PM using iw01. In this work order they add componets and assign the this plant which is created as vendor to this componet in the field fixed vendor. Reqs are generated thru this work order but gets failed in SRM. SLG1 error i don't exactly remember now, but it gives an error related to the vendor..Please let me know how do I work for this scenario?
Thanks and Regards
KapilHi
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Do let me know.
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- Atul -
Third Party and Individual Purchase Order
<b>Can anybody please send me the steps to configure the Return Process for both Third Party and Indvidual Purchase Orders.</b>
dear sunil
THIRD PARTY SCENARIO
in third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you. A sales order may consist partly or wholly of third-party items. Occasionally, you may need to let a vendor deliver items you would normally deliver yourself.
Process Flow
the processing of third-party orders is controlled via material types. Material types define whether a material is produced only internally can be ordered only from third-party vendors, or whether both are possible. For example, a material that is defined as a trading good can only be ordered from a third-party vendor. However, if you manufacture your own finished products, you may also want, from time to time, to be able to order the same type of product from other vendors.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Sales
Third-party items can be created automatically by the system, depending on how your system is set. However, you can also change a standard item to a third-party item during sales processing manually.
Automatic third-party order processing:-
if a material is always delivered from one or more third-party vendors, you can specify in the material master that the material is a third-party item. During subsequent sales order processing, the system automatically determines the appropriate item category for a third-party item: TAS. To specify a material as a third-party item, enter BANS in the Item category group field in the Sales 2 screen of the material master record.
Manual third-party order processing
In the case of a material that you normally deliver yourself but occasionally need to order from a third-party vendor, you can overwrite the item category during sales order processing. For a material that you normally deliver yourself, you specify the item category group NORM in the material master.
If, as an exception, you use a third-party material, change the entry TAN to TAS in the ItCa field when processing the sales document. The item is then processed as third-party item.
If address data for the ship-to party is changed in the sales order in third-party business transactions, the changed data will automatically be passed on to purchase requisition and also to the purchase order ,if one already exists. In the purchase order, you can display the address data for the ship-to party in the attributes for the item.
You can only change the address data for the ship-to party in the sales order for third-party business transactions, and not in the purchase order.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Purchasing
when you save a sales order that contains one or more third-party items, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition in Purchasing. Each third-party item in a sales order automatically generates a corresponding purchase requisition item. During creation of the requisition, the system automatically determines a vendor for each requisition item. If a sales order item has more than one schedule line, the system creates a purchase requisition item for each schedule line.
Purchase orders are created from purchase requisitions in the usual way. For more information about creating purchase orders, see the Purchasing documentation. During creation of the purchase order, the system automatically copies the delivery address of your customer from the corresponding sales order. In a sales order, you can enter purchase order texts for each third-party item. When you create the corresponding purchase order, the texts are automatically copied into the purchase order. The number of the purchase order appears in the document flow information of the sales order.
All changes made in the purchase order are automatically made in the sales order as well. For example, if the vendor confirms quantities and delivery dates different from those you request and enters them in the purchase order, the revised data is automatically copied into the sales order
you process third-party items by creating a normal sales order. In overview for the order, you can then overwrite the default item category (TAN in the standard system) with the special item category for third-party items: TAS
Billing Third-Party Orders
If relevance for billing indicator for the item category has been set to B (relevant for order-related billing on the basis of the order quantity) in Customizing, the system includes the order in the billing due list immediately. If, however, the indicator has been set to F (relevant to order-related billing on the basis of the invoice quantity), the system does not include the order in the billing due list until an invoice from the vendor has been received and processed by the purchasing department. In the standard system, item category TAS (third-party order processing) has been given billing-relevance indicator F.
In the first case, the third-party order is considered to be completely billed only when the invoiced quantity equals the order quantity of the sales order item. In the second case, each time a vendor invoice is received, a customer invoice is created for the quantity in the vendor invoice and the order is considered to be fully invoiced until the next vendor invoice is received.
If you have activated billing-relevance indicator F for item categories in Customizing, billing can refer to the goods receipt quantity instead of the incoming invoice quantity.
You can control whether the invoice receipt quantity or the quantity of goods received is relevant for billing in Customizing for copying control for billing at item level.
FOR YOUR PROCESS Individual Purchase Orders WELL GIVE THE RIGHT SOLUTION
Individual purchase orders are used when your customer orders goods from you that are not in stock and must be ordered from one or more external vendors.
Process Flow
During sales order entry, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition item. The purchasing department creates a purchase order based on the requisition and the vendor ships the goods directly to you (unlike third party order processing, where the vendor ships directly to your customer). You then ship the goods to your customer. While the goods are part of your inventory, you manage them as part of the sales order stock. Sales order stock consists of stock that is assigned to specific sales orders and cannot be used for other purposes.
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
Prerequisites for 3rd party sales,
Purchasing org,
purchasing group,
assign the Purchase org to company code
assign Purchase org to plant,
should not maintain the stock in material, it should be trading goods,
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing *--
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
Order Type
Sales org, distr chnl, div
Enter
Sold to
PO #
Material
Quantity
Enter
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
Order Number
Goto Item Overview
Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
Key in the PR number
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
Key in the PR number
Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
Execute
Check the box next to the material
Assign Automatically button
Click on "Assignments" button
Click on "Process assignment"
The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
PO Number
DN Number
Batch tab , click on classification
Serial Numbers tab
Date of Production
Flag Item OK
Check, just in case
Post
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
Invoice Date
Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
Check the box
Click on "Copy"
Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
Amount
State the baseline date
Simulate & Post
Invoice Number
*Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
Go to "picking" tab
State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
Enter
Go to edit -> Log
Save
rewards pls
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Hi if i have inquiery type and quotation type for third party and serivce
what is iyem category group and item category for inquiery and quotation
how can i determine theose documents
in qt
bans bans
tas tas
in
dien
tad
qt
dien
tad
it it correct determination r wrong plz help me.
murlifor in -
item cat wld b AFN item cat grop wld b BANS coz u wnt change mmr for every scenario
for qt -
item cat wld b AGN
qt dein - AGX
in-dein - AFX,
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ATP: Third party and Individual PO
Hi,
Wanted to get an expert advise on ATP for third party and individual PO item categories...If SO item is created, qty is not confirmed auto until PO is created but manually system confirms the qty even if only PR is available.
Regards,
Alokyes, U are right. the system confirms a particular date even if the PO has not yet been created. this date is not a correct one, since there is no availbility check at sales order level for third party. Once u create a PO, there u will get the scheduline lines get confirmed.(ie., vendor's confirmation date or PO schedule line.
This shecduline line will be automatically copied or updated to the sales order schedule line. Hope i answer ur question.
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Third party with sto from supplying plant
Hi,
When i am trying to convert Third party purchase requisition NB created through Sales order
to Stock transport order to transfer the material from other plant i am getting following error
Error Message
Third-party not defined in the case of vendor with plant assignment
essage no. 06769
You are entering a purchase transaction involving a vendor to whom a
plant has been assigned. Normally, this will involve the transfer of
materials from one plant to another.
This process necessitates a delivery and a billing document in the SD
system. The PO appears directly in the delivery due list of the issuing
plant (vendor) and therefore does not need to be transmitted.
However, an item with the procurement form "third-party" (triangular
business deal) cannot appear in the delivery due list.
An item with the procurement form "third-party" can only be ordered from
vendors without a plant assignment.
Anybody has any suggestions on this scenario
DiwakarHi Niel,
You don't need to create an STO. If you create a normal sales order with delivering plant B, they will see it in their delivery due list or MD04 or whatever. And it doesn't matter for this purpose that the plants belong to different comp. codes. This will only matter after the delivery to the customer - VF01 (or VF04) with reference to the delivery will bill the customer (comp. code A is billing); then another VF01 will generate inter-company billing document where company B charges comp. A.
So why do you insist on having a STO?
BR
Raf -
Third Party and Shipment Cost managed by Trader.
Hi gurus,
I have set up the scenario third party with Delivery note and it works fine.
That means i can execute all the process till the billing. Customer, trader and supplier are set.
The problem here is that in this scenario, the trader wants to be responsible for the shipment costs. Before implementing the scenario i thought it would be possible to, from the purchase order generate an outbound delivery and create a shipment document for applying costs to it. The problem is for position TAS it is not possible to do none of that.
I can't find a solution for this... has anyone faced a problem like this? Or is capable of seeing a possible solution?
best regards.
DiogoHi Tuffy,
In Third party dropship scenario, customer give an order from your e-trade site or online sales site. after receiving the order, your contracted company with you will deliver the order, not you. you are adding your profit to the list pricing. Process is going below:
customer >> shopping from you >> payment to you >> getting the amount of profit after sales >>> sending of order and delivery information about customer to contracted company >> contracted company will deliver th order to the customer.
But in other type of third part sales, we sould create purchase order additionally.
I hope these will clarfy your confussion.
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Cost update for third party and individual purchase orders
Hi,
We went live in around 5 months back. Last month we changed the configuration so that costs for back 2 back purhcase order will be determined from goods receipt & third party purchase orders could be determined from logistics invoice verification. This is working correctly with the new documents which are being created.
We have an issue with the document which are already created and posted. We want to update these existing billing documents so that they can pick the rigth cost. For these old transactions currently the cost is being picked from valuation segment of the material.
I have tried resolving this through reorganization of infostructures & through sdvprsupdate but it does not work.
Best Regards
nHi,
We went live in around 5 months back. Last month we changed the configuration so that costs for back 2 back purhcase order will be determined from goods receipt & third party purchase orders could be determined from logistics invoice verification. This is working correctly with the new documents which are being created.
We have an issue with the document which are already created and posted. We want to update these existing billing documents so that they can pick the rigth cost. For these old transactions currently the cost is being picked from valuation segment of the material.
I have tried resolving this through reorganization of infostructures & through sdvprsupdate but it does not work.
Best Regards
n -
Third party and standard item Billing
i have a order wherw i have two items..with item cateogry as TAN and TAS (for third party).
i have done the deliver for the first item and now
i want to bill the customer for both the items together.
when i am doing billing for both the it item (TAN & TAS) system is creating 2 billing document.
please guide me as how i can create SINGLE invoice for the same scenario.No Not at all possible in standards
Third party TAS billing relevance is F order related billing staus according to invoice receipt that means you can bill only after receiving the vendor invoice
Normal item TAN billing relevance is A delivery related billing means after delivery based on delivery relevance or referring the delivery document it can be billed
This A and F will split the entire thing into two invoices
Logically combining them is also not correct
Regards
Raja -
Third Party and Sales Deal Combination
A Client has a business process where the vendor normally delivers goods to the client and the client sends it to the customer with some secial promotional pricing. But at times the vendor is not able to deliver the goods on time to the client so they send it directly to the end customer to save time. I was wondering if this could be acheived with a different item category like in third party with a combination with sales deals to handle the promotional pricing. Please suggest if this is a viable option or if we have to go anyother route.
Also since I am new to sales deals, I would like to know if there is any identifier/indicator in sales orders which tells us that it is using a sales deal?Hello George,
1. A Client has a business process where the vendor normally delivers goods to the client and the client sends it to the customer with some special promotional pricing.
For this you can use individual purchase order process with item category "TAB" and use it with sales deals.
2. But at times the vendor is not able to deliver the goods on time to the client so they send it directly to the end customer to save time. I was wondering if this could be achieved with a different item category like in third party with a combination with sales deals to handle the promotional pricing.
Yes, you can definitely use third party process to fulfill your second requirement by using "TAS" item category in the sales order.
The only difference between the two process will be the ship to party address on the PR & PO. Based on the item category system determines which ship to party address it should copy on to the PR & PO.
If its customer's address vendor delivers the goods directly to customer (Third party process) and sends you a notification, and if its client's address then vendor delivers the goods to client and later the client delivers the goods to customer ( individual purchase order process)
3. Now coming to sales deals.
Yes you can use it with both the processes and you won't be able to see sales deal number at document level in the sales order, however you will be able to see it at invoice document level.
If you wish to see the sales order associated to a particular sales deal then you check them at table level in VBAP and for billing documents in VBRP.
You will be able to see the sales deals which has been determined in the sales order, based on the condition type and condition record triggered. You can see them at item level of sales document by going in the additional data screen from the condition records details screen.
Regards
Naveen K. -
Hi folks,
I have a scenario where a credit block happens as soon as we enter a third party item is entered in to the sales order. Now my question is whether the purchase requisition goes to the MM department or not. Please help me.
Thank you.Hi,
Welocme to the SDN.Forum,
w.r.t to your thread, I donu2019t know what settings you have done. If you want to stop creation of PR generation while saving sales order in third party, you should have maintained u201Crequirement =102 in the Routine No. column in u201COVB8u201D. To confirm please check in u201Cschedule linesu201D of sales order.
To my knowledge, the Credit block / delivery block in a sales order does not prevent the generation of the purchase requisition in a third-party or individual purchase order item. Regardless of the Customizing settings in the delivery block, the system confirms the TAB or TAS item and generates the purchase requisition.
Regards
DSR
Edited by: D.Srinivasa Rao on Nov 22, 2011 6:15 AM
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