Internal order - budget leftover in previous year
Hi all,
We have an internal order from 2005 that had a pr/po deleted, freeing up some budget to be used now in 2006. Since 2005 has been closed out, how do we use this 2005 budget in a PO for 2006?
Thanks in advance,
Den
Hi Den,
You can do the budget carryforward of internal orders to the next year in the year end closing by TC KOCO.
Further information is available at
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/96/248f38661fca77e10000009b38f842/frameset.htm
I hope this helps..
Regards,
Suraj
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Past 1
Future 12
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All answers will be duly rewarded....Hello,
I am sorry (there is an amendement to my previous reply) there is no provision of distributing the budget values on internal order KO22 on a monthly basis. It is only annual values or overall values. Therefore no functionality to distribute the budgeted values by monthly basis.
KP06 - Cost and Activity Inputs - Cost Center Planning - Monthly distribution is possible
KP26 - Activity output / prices - Cost Center Planning - Monthly distribution is possible
KP46 - Statistical Key Figures - Cost Center Planning - Monthly distribution is possible
KPZ2 - Cost Center Budget - Only Annual Budget - NO monthly distribution is possible
KO12 - Internal Order budgeting - Only monthwise distribution is possible if you maintain relevant element groups in detailed planning and unit costing area. - See OKOS
KO22 - Only annual values budgeting is possible - NO monthly distribution is possible.
Please let me know if you need further help.
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Another strange thing is that the system allows the same changes for few items (maybe 4, 5, or six that time it will get saved that time it will not give error) ,
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When making changes to budget then make sure you are increasing it not decreasing....
When you decrease the budget then system will check tolerance defined............and display warning or error....
For e.g in tolerance you have defined that system should display warning at 95% absorption of budget and Error at 100%.
You have set budget 10000 INR for the Internal Order. So it means at 9500 INR system will issue warning and at 10000 INR or more system will give error.
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Dear All Experts,
Very Good Morning !
I have configured IO budgeting with Overall Planning ticked budget profile. I have assigned budger profile to Order type also.
In KO23 I have given limit also of Rs.10,000 /- for overall and yearly 2011 Rs,5,000 /-. In define tolerance I have maintained two entries as below : 1 is with 01 Group wich will check PO's and 2nd one is 04 Group which will check Financial account document. ( I hope this correct, If not please rectify me ). In tolerance limit I have given 3 as a error should throw.
I refer this thread [Internal Order Budget - Availability Control|Internal Order Budget - Availability Control; from our SDN forum. I activated budget control from KO23 and referring KO30 now system is showing GREEN Availability control is active.
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Revati Joshi.Your tolerance limits are fine
Let me put you some points here.
Creating IO
1. Investment Profile is mandatory for Capital projects
2. If you are using Investment management, then check IM32, & IM52
3. KO02 - Check - Investments tab - IM Program and Position ID assinged or not
4. Need to assign the budget in both Controlling area currecny and object currency (KO12, & KO22)
5. Availability control should be Active - KO30
6. Planner plofile - KP04 - Just press F4 and check - if there are any created for your controlling area
7. Check if you have any line itesm already posted to the IO - KOB1, KOB2, KOB3
Now, the actual plan is - KPF6 and KDF6
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Version 0
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To Period 12
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Order input the order
to
or group
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to
or group
Enter those details and in next screen - give the amount for that cost element.
Now o and post in FB60
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7) I/Order budget is control annually. Once the budget I/Order completed fully, it cannot be used again. Hence, does this mean that we need to have different set of I/Order for different year?
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ElaineLot's of questions;
1) At the time of entering a sales order you can enter an Internal oder number as well. That then could be used as part of a tracking process.
2) You control the budget by setting up availability control. Then at the time of entry it checks against the budget to see if you are within you tolerances. Youn can also have reporting in COPA to compare actual to plan and budgets. But there won't be the availablity control. It will be analytical reporting instead.
3)The budget for internal orders is one total. You won't be able to set it up for different cost elements there.
4)The availability control looks at all the components. Yes you can control both
5)The credit will be picked up when posted as an actual posting
6) You will need to do carryforward for all I/O.
7) You can set up the budgets to be for a particular year not overall for I/O.
try to limit the size of your questions in the future to make the response easier
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Now I have observed during saving the record in F-02 it gives warning message as per tolerance limit set in config area. Actually I want in F-02 screen when you put Document date, posting date, type, period, company code, currency, posting key(debit), GL account, next 2nd screen you mention amount, cost center, internal order(budget is maintained), posting key(credit) and press enter for next 3rd screen to put credit amount. While you go from 2nd screen to 3rd screen then warning / error message should give if amount is exceeded than budgeted amount which I am getting during saving. Is it possible to make any check between two screens ????
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i have prepared internal order budget. how to release the budget?because system is saying that avilability control is not activated.
govind.Hi,
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Murali -
Hi Folks,
Please clarify below:
1) Internal Order Budget is updated / modified in t-code KO22. Below fields are displayed for budget balances:
a. Budget
b. Transaction Currency
c. Current Bedget
d. Assigned
e. Planned Total
f. Cumulative
g. Remainder (Balance)
Question: From which transparent table we can extract the "Remainder" budget amount for each internal order. I saw that there is structure named BPDY. Couldn't find any tranparent table that has internal order - budget balance.
Kindly provide your inputs.
Thanks,
Sreeni.It can be a functional module which calculates the balance
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Hi
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Thanks
LilyLily,
Hope you have sorted out the upload of plan data. For uploading the budgets the work around is below:
Upload the budget data as plan using the planning layout suggested by others. Then in the transaction KO22 select the budget column and use the copy view option under Edit menu and select Planned total.
Once the Budget details are uploaded you can upload the plan values later.
Hope this Helps
Cheers
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What is the internal order-budgeting & settlement?How to the settled and budgeted?Please explain with example in simple way?
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EX: If you organoging ana event.
therer are lot of expencesoccuring in that event.
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jamesHi
Our client had such requirements, for which they had to adopt a Z solution...
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