Invoice Unplanned Costs
Is there a way to associated a different Vendor when using unplanned delivery costs? My problem is we went to moving average price and in order to value my inventory correctly I need to include freight charges. I know that I can put it in the conditions on the PO but for one I do not know the exact costs and two I may have up to four Vendors involved with this since alot of our materials comes from overseas and they change frequently.
Is there a way to enter the freight at the time of invoicing with a different Vendor other than the material and reference the material or the PO?
Hi Gregory,
Not directly addressing your question - but a suggestion as to how you may be able to account for the different expenses incurred in moving the material from overseas locations to your offices.
Have you thought about configuring multiple 'Third-Party Freight' Conditions. This way you would be able to accrue expenses individually for the different legs involved in transporting the material as shown below - all you would need to know at the time of creating the PO is the number of parties involved in the process.
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Cond.Typ / Leg / Vendor
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ZFR1 / Sea Freight - Local Currency / Vendor 1
ZFR2 / Sea Freight - Alternative Currency / Vendor 1
ZFR3 / Port to Sorting Yard / Vendor 2
ZFR4 / Sorting Yard to Branch Office / Vendor 3
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Planning the costs this way ensures your Material valuation accurately reflects the actual costs involved in procuring the materials. Depending on the timing of the Invoice from the Vendor, you may also be able to hold of on performing the GR and update an values in the PO to correctly reflect the values in the Invoice from the Vendor.
Hope this helps.
Ravelle
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How to distribute Unplanned cost on Material
Hi Gurus;
I want to distribute unplanned cost on material. In my case Material Vendor & Unplanned Cost (Freight) vendor are different. In PO there is no provision for unplanned cost and we have already booked the GRN.
I have seen blogs, and accordingly, first post the vendor invoice (For Material) and now when i go for subsequent debit for freight charges in MIRO - I don't know what to do. Since there is no pending material against the PO.
Please suggest the required steps.
Thanks in advance.
Devendra Singh ChauhanMr. Jürgen L.
During subsequent debit: In MIRO, AT BASIC DATA TAB: I Entered Invoice Date - 20.11.2010 & Posting Date 30.11.2010, Amount 500 USD, Tax (V0 - Exempted from Tax)., Reference (Document no of Invoice). Below that I selected On header I select "Purchase Order/Scheduling Agreement & Goods Received/Service Items", Enter the Purchase Order No.
Now on Payment tab - Entered BaselineDt-30.11.2010; System taking due on date automatically - 29.11.2010.
On detail tab: I entered Unpl. Del. Cst - 500 USD, change the invoice party - from original vendor to transporter vendor.
But situation is SAME.
Now, click on SIMULATE Button, I shows only Credit Amount:
Position-1: A/C type "A", Account - Freight Vendor Name; Amount: 500- USD.
At footer it shows: Debit: 0.00 Credit: 500.00 Balance: 500.00-
Where I am making a mistake.
DSC -
Tolerance key Unplanned cost in miro
Hi,
how can tolerance % maintain for Unplanned cost in MIRO so that posting can be blocked for payment.
any user exit or Std BADI ?
Regards,
Pardeep MalikHi Jayakathan,
Which BADI will help me given in this notes ? as per ur expertise.....
Is This work
BADI MRM_PAYMENT_TERMS to check if unplanned deliv cost amount = %(Of Value of Invoice)
Then the payment block indicator ZLSPR = A.
Regards,
Pardeep Malik -
Calculating discounts on total PO and not excluding unplanned cost
Hi friends,
when User does MIRO they enter unplanned frieght cost in the gl account tab.
Lets say P.O. is 500 freight is 100 total miro document will be $ 600 .
Now when we pay to the vendor it calculates discount on the total amount[600] and not excluding Freight.
We did check the "Indicator: Line item not liable to cash discount?" and even though its calculating on the total amount.
Is there anything else we are missing?
Please adviseHi Sina
in addition what Anthony has said, you either have planned costs or unplanned costs:
for example: If you put freight costs in the PO item when you create the PO then you have planned delivery costs, and those will be accounted when you carry GR on a clearing account which is cleared on invoice receipt.
in the case you don't mention the costs at PO creation, then you put the costs in the details tab, in the appropriate field Unplanned costs.
Depending on how you have setup in customizing how this cost is managed, they either distribute proportionally between the invoice items( and will be put on a stock account in case of moving average price, or on a price difference account in case of a standard price), or they are put on a seperate GL account).
Regards
Sidi -
Unplanned costs cannot be posted through MM
Hello MM Gurus
Scenario : Create PO for vendor A , buying an item , Do GR , then pay the invoice to Vendor A . Unplanned costs were incurred for the delivery of the item and the delivery wa shandled by Vendor B
How can we pay Vendor B and still refer to the PO created for Vendor A ...these costs are for the PO created for Vendor A ?
Your answers will be appreciated : will award pointsHi Warona,
You can pay to vendor B if you put fright condition in PO and assign B vendor in that condition DETAILS
When you do IV vendor B will be proposed for freight payment
Hope its clear to you
BR
Diwakar
reward if useful -
Unplanned cost to be captured while doing at MIRO
Hi Friends,
As per our current OBYC setting, unplanned cost is going to another Miscellaneous account, Is there a way to capture unplanned cost in the material G/L account ?
IlyasHI,
There may be different options available in SAP of unplanned Cost:-
1. Put that it in Unplanned Cost while MIRO then system will post either to separate GL or Stock Acct as per the setting in SPRO.
IMG - >MM - >Invoice Verification - >incoming invoice - >Configure How Unplanned Delivery Costs Are Posted
2. After Posting the MIRO, Put that cost in Subsiquent Debit for that Delivery note or PO Number. and it will be updated in PO history also and good for reporting
system will distribute in stock material acct as per available stock and rest in PRD acct.
3. You can post that cost in Separate GL after doing Setting in SPRO, GL Tab will appear in MIRO screen and post that cost there for e.g. GL for unplanned Cost.
SPRO> Material Management>Logistics Invoice Verification->Incoming Invoice->Activate Direct Posting to G/L Accounts and Material Account
Hope Help U !
Regards,
Pardeep malik -
hi,
i would like to ask on unplanned.
1) unplanned cost for moving average price material when post in miro, cost will go to price difference or stock? why?
2) unplanned cost for standard price material. when post in miro, cost will go to price difference or stock? why?
thanksSPRO>>IMG>>Materials Management>> Logistic INvoice Verification>>Incoming Invoice>Configure How Unplanned Delivery Costs Are Posted
For each company code set whether
1. Unplanned delivery costs are distributed among the individual items in proportion to the item amounts invoiced so far and the item amounts in the current invoice.
or
2. Unplanned delivery costs are posted in a separate line. You must enter a specific tax code for the posting.
Scenaro 1: Moving Average Price with enough stock coverage
Unplanned cost will be posted to stock account if the material has moving average price control (provided stock coverage available for the material)
Initial Stock: 100 PC Initial Stck Value: 1000 USD Moving Average Price: 10 USD/PC
You are ordering 100 PC @ 10 USD/PC
During Good Receipt:
Stock Account: 1000 USD
GR/IR Cleaing Account: 1000 USD
total stock after good recietp = 200 Pieces
During Invoice Receipt: (Unplanned Delivery Cost 100 USD)
Total invoetory = 200 Pieces
GR/IR Clearing Account: 1000 USD
Vendor Account: 1000 USD
Stock Account: 100 USD
So total stock 200 PC
total value = 1000 (initial stock value) + 1000 (recent good receipt) + 100 (Unplanned delivery cost) USD
Total value = 2100 USD
Moving Average Price = 2100/200 = 10. 5 USD (after IR with unplanned delivery cost). This is under impression that the plant/storage location has enough stock coverage)
Scenaro 2: Moving Average Price without enough stock coverage
Unplanned cost will be posted to stock account and price difference account depending on the stock coverage during invice posting if the material has moving average price control
Initial Stock: 100 PC Initial Stck Value: 1000 USD Moving Average Price: 10 USD/PC
You are ordering 100 PC @ 10 USD/PC
During Good Receipt:
Stock Account: 1000 USD
GR/IR Cleaing Account: 1000 USD
total stock after good recietp = 200 Pieces
During Invoice Receipt: (Unplanned Delivery Cost 100 USD)
Before posting invoice the 150 PC has been issued to production
Total inventory = 50 Pieces (200 -150 PC)
GR/IR Clearing Account: 1000 USD
Vendor Account: 1000 USD
Stock Account: 50 USD
Price Difference Account: 50 USD
So total stock 50 PC
total value = 500 +50
Total value = 550 USD
Moving Average Price = 550/50 = 11 USD (after IR with unplanned delivery cost). This is under impression that the plant/storage location doesnt have enough stock coverage)
Scenaro 3: Standard Price
Unplanned cost will be posted to price differnece account account if the material has standard price
Initial Stock: 100 PC Initial Stck Value: 1000 USD Standear Price: 10 USD/PC
You are ordering 100 PC @ 10 USD/PC
During Good Receipt:
Stock Account: 1000 USD
GR/IR Cleaing Account: 1000 USD
total stock after good recietp = 200 Pieces
During Invoice Receipt: (Unplanned Delivery Cost 100 USD)
Total inventory = 200 Pieces
GR/IR Clearing Account: 1000 USD
Vendor Account: 1000 USD
Price difference Account: 100 USD
So total stock 200 PC
total value = 1000 (initial stock value) + 1000 (recent good receipt) + 100 (Unplanned delivery cost) USD
Total value = 2100 USD
Standard price of the material remains same as 10 USD/Pc -
Dear Experts,
We have a case wherein a PO invoice from Miro- we have Unplanned cost in the field of Unplanned cost
and at the same time in the GL Tab we have an amount assigned to some GL accounts
when we do the Simulate, we find that the unplanned cost amount is distributed (Allocated) over all lines in the invoice including the GL account line in GL Tab
1- why does SAP do that?
2- what can we do if we don't want this amount to be allocated on the GL line
Thanks
LeenaHi,
You can treat unplanned delivery cost in two ways:
1. Cost will be allocated to material if you enter an amount in Unplanned delivery cost field. It will allocate according to the quantity line items.
2. If you want to allocated that cost to different GL which is P & L Account, you may configure that GL to OBYC > UPF key.
Thanks,
Jigar -
Invoice Neur cost of PO by MIRO
Hi expert,
I configure a particular condition as Neutral Accruls. (same standard conditions MAR1). In History PO the system present two different category, after GR:
- 1°: We - Good Receipt with the value of PB00 or PBXX
-2°. NeuR - Miscell. provision
After, during MIRO, I see only the first category of cost. I don't see the NeuR cost in any way.
How can i invoice the cost from MIRO? there is same particular configuration of my conditions
I can't change the category condiction in B (Delivery Cost) because i buy this material from China I need to change the condiction MAR1also after first GR. All because i recived materials in different step and for thi reason i have not the correct value of the conditions.
Please, help me.My problem is different.
The Key for Delivery cost is B; in my case in blank. For this reason i see the cost in PO in different way.
My problem is that when i use MIRO for take the invoice, i see only the material cost or the delivery cost.
I don't find any way to see this type of cost (in PO as "Neur - Miscell. provision")
Thanks
David -
Hi,
may a use in customizing the functionality "<b>Activate Direct Posting to G/L Accounts and Material Accounts</b>" for others unplanned costs?
Best regardsHi,
Unplanned Delivery cost are entered at header level in the details tab.
You may activate the direct posting to G/L account to enter the other unplanned costs manually entering a different G/L account.
Pavan -
Dear Forum,
I would like to seek clarification on unplanned cost book during miro.
For planned, it will credit vendor debit freight clearing account.
For unplanned, it only can be prorated and distributed in the po item lines. Unplanned cost cannot be posted entirely to any account by itself. correct? why?
1) example for unplanned cost, say unplanned cost is usd300. i must distribute this usd300 to po line items. when distributed to the po line item, sure there is a difference, hence system will post the difference to price difference. correct?
2) why cannot book unplanned cost of usd300 to a specific account? say like credit vendor debit 1 specific acc usd300.
Need help on these 2 points.
ThanksIf you configure a g/l account for unplanned delivery cost,it will definetly hit that acct,no need to distribute amt all p.o line items.
Acct document will be Vendor Cr GR/IR Dr Unplanned delivery cost Dr.
or other wise try subsequent debit in MIRO(to add freight cost). -
Unplanned cost on map/standard
hi,
can anyone help to explain on this. i need to know how unplanned cost will impact
1) material maintained at map and
2) material maintained at standard price.
thanksIf material is maintained at MAP then the MAP will increase due to unplanned cost
e.g. IF the MAP of the material is Rs. 10 & Stock is 5 nos. Now you have made the GR of qty 5 with Rs.12 where Rs. 2 is unplanned cost. then system will calulate the MAP by considering the unplanned cost also
New MAP will be (10X5)(12X5)/55 = Rs.11
If material is maintained at standard price then this extra Rs.2 will go in Price difference account(PRD).
If you have any doubt please let me know.
Amit -
Tolerance Limit to unplanned cost
Dear All,
I want assing tolerance limit to unplanned cost while passing the MIRO.
Is this possible, what the tolerance key for the same or is there any other config
Please help me to resolved the the issue
Thanks
PramodHi Pramod,
The design of the system is such that unplanned delivery costs are not
included in the tolerance price check.
Please refer to attached note 33720.
with kind regards
Cora -
Tolerance Limit to unplanned cost - MM
Dear All,
I want assing tolerance limit to unplanned cost while passing the MIRO.
Is this possible, what the tolerance key for the same or is there any other config
Please help me to resolved the the issue
Thanks
PramodAny help to resolve the issue
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Hi all,
Is it possible to use inbound delivery during Intra company sto (Plant to Plant) in recieving plant if yes how to do it. If not then how to capture unplanned cost in case of STO.
Thanks & Regards
NiteshHi
Check out the link
Re: Unplanned Delivery Cost
Regards
Anand
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