Iphoto 11-File import RAW and JPEG

iPhoto 11, Snow Leopard 10.6.7 RAW supported and Sony DSLR A300 supported...
My question is simple: I understand (i think) that when I import pictures into iPhoto that they will be converted to JPEG. I have a number of JPEG files. But if I shoot something in RAW (.arw) and import it, does iPhoto 11 import the RAW image AND make a JPEG or does it just take the RAW photo and NOT convert to JPEG?
Cheers-
Kelly

Greetings Kelly,
Read this help menu item from iPhoto for "RAW" as it may help shed some light: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=iPhoto/9.0/en/pht41627265.html
iPhoto imports RAW files from compatible cameras and stores the RAW files in it's library.
It creates JPEG refrence files for viewing on screen to speed up performance which is also stored in the library.
If you edit an image, the edits are made on a JPEG copy that iPhoto creates (you can also have it save them as .tiff which is mentioned in the link above) and stores it in it's library.
Cheers.

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One by one! Larry, Terence and Old Toad,
Thank you, all of you, for your helpful replies.
Firstly, I am a little confused between Larry and Terence; sounds like opposite info. Is it?
Old Toad, Now I know about this easy way to do this. I have, at least, 1T+20,000 more images, some of which I will import into my new 750 gig Macbook Pro, so this seems easy. (Already over 30,000 images. Can iPhoto hold so much???)
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I did the unthinkable. I worked out of the iPhoto Library.
What I did was this: my older Macbook Pro, had a 200 gig HDD, and could NOT handle all the photos I was putting into it (which I needed to do the work I want to do), so I first downloaded the images from my camera to iPhoto, then, I downloaded,as I went along, by year, to external HDD, and then I cut DVD's, by year, in pieces, via Toast, as my backup. (both, directly from the iPhoto Library), Then, I deleted many of the photos in each event, in each year, leaving only enough to remind me what is in that event.
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LarryHN:
1) your suggestion will not work for the issue I'm describing: if I have both Raw and Jpeg files of the same image on my SD card, the iPad sort of lumps these together, so when I view the contents of my SD card it shows as one image/file, and if I select it and download it, it brings over both the Raw and Jpeg versions of the image, which is what I am trying to avoid and why I started the tread in the first place.
2) I spoke with sales people at two Apple stores and one person with their online sale, and none of them could addrss my issue. The online sales person said she might have to put me through to their tech people to resolve this or at least get the full, correct info. None of them were janitors.
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LR 5.6 keeps on crashing on even selecting adjustment brush and import and export, very flustrating considering i have just purchased a monthly contract, using both raw and jpeg files .

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