Is Archlinux for me ? I think so

Hi,
I'm really thinking of moving my computers to Arch. Starting with a test laptop and then, if I'm happy with how things go, my workstations. Why ?
1- From what I've read so far, I really like the philosophy behind this OS. Archlinux meaning of simplicity is very clever.
2- I'm fed'up with developers putting lot's of effort in "newbie friendliness" and making very questionable decisions.
3- I'm fed'up with user communities that don't wan't to know how, and don't care about it.
4- Sick of the never ending Windows vs Linux war on the Ubuntu forums...
5- I'd like to have an OS that I can configure from the bottom.
6- I'd like to contribute to an Open Source OS that doesn't target "ease of use" above everything else.
7- I wan't to have the feeling that I have complete control over my machines. It seems like I've lost it in the last few years...
7- I find the Archlinux logo awsome
Ok, about me now :
I have 10 years of "just Linux" computing. Used mainly Debian, RedHat and Ubuntu. Installed a lot of stuff by hand and from source. Recompiled the kernel a few times. I love Linux in general, but I'm looking for something else, in the Linux world of course... I'm not a programmer but I've started to learn a bit of Python.
So the question asked in the subject : Is Archlinux for me ? Why would I chose Arch instead of Slackware or Debian ? And what would be the learning curve like ? Does Arch "shortens" the life of a computer since you have to do lots of compiling ? This last question sounds a bit silly but I wanted to ask anyway...
I really feel that Arch would be a great choice for me but I'd like to hear experienced users on theses questions.
Ciao and thanx for your time !
Last edited by Chargaff (2009-12-01 23:29:07)

Hello there.
I have been in your situation myself. I have mainly been using FreeBSD besides Windows, tried out a few other dists like fedora, debian, gentoo, slack etc.
About two months ago i had a problem with Win 7 on my desktop and descided that enough is enough and installed Ubuntu on it insteed. Reason for it being Ubuntu was that i needed a fast working system for schoolwork that i didnt want to do on my Thinkpad.
Anyway so i started using it and i really did enjoy it, i actually still have it on this computer. For a week or so more then i will change it to Arch.
I tried out arch the same week as ubuntu but i played around with arch on the Thinkpad. I am so impressed. It is a fantastic system to be operating. It uses so minimal of your resources, i know exactly what is in and on it, if i want to fix something and dont know how there is actually a community with what i would like to call REAL PEOPLE, which Ubuntu doesnt have.
Just saying, give it a try and i am sure you will fall in love, I did.

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With that boost you can even beat a Intel Core i7 990X. Without that boost you Bulldozer is slower than a i5 2500k at the most time.
So is there a easy way to get a system which is compiled with -march=bdver1
I mean we dont talk about 3% speed increase, we talk about 25-50% and if you pay 250 € for a processor we talk about 65-125 €. That is a lot of money which gets wasted because the OS is not optimized for the architecture.
Or do you think the difference from -march=generic to -march=bdver1 will minimize over time and so the generic compilation will get faster on the bulldozer?
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Last edited by Vamp898 (2011-11-15 18:02:33)

Leonid.I wrote:Optimizing kernel is irrelevant for overall performance because the code is not being executed in real time.
Yes the low latency of a kernel means that there's not alot of 'raw' performance to be had by more aggressive optimization levels due to:
1. Most (I think) of the performance critical parts of the kernel is already manually optimized using compiler extensions which more directly define the code to be generated and doesn't really benefit from higher optimization levels.
2. Unlike cpu intensive apps the kernel is designed to be very low latency and as such tight loop optimizations which benefit cpu intensive apps won't benefit the kernel the same way. That said, the already low kernel latency can be lowered further by harder optimization, but you can forget anything remotely like 25%.
Leonid.I wrote:A much better idea is to identify bottleneck apps and optimize them.
Exactly, if you are using compressors, encoders, emulators, rendering, or other computationally intensive programs on a regular basis then there can certainly be worthwhile to compile them with higher optimization levels than the defaults (often -O2) and also natively for your hardware (-march=native). If you REALLY want the best possible optimization you should probably use Profile Guided Optimization aswell which typically results in 5-20% improvement on cpu intensive stuff. Be aware though that alot of programs in this category uses hand-optimized assembly which a compiler can't optimize and as such won't benefit from a recompile with higher optimization (although you can often disable assembly code and see if the compiler can generate faster code for your platform).
As for Phoronix's 'benchmarks', take them with a LARGE grain of salt. The tests have been shown lacking again and again and most of the time it seems the site-owner who is doing them doesn't have a clue of what he is doing. This isn't even limited to compiler benchmarks, he's been benchmarking 3d game performance on systems with 3d compositing on against systems without 3d compositing and presented them as fair comparisons. Overall the tests are of extremely poor quality, not surprising then that he seems to go for quantity.
edit: Oh and I'd like to hear of the results you get when recompiling for the bulldozer architecture as I'm thinking of going for that next time I upgrade my machines (won't be for another 1-1 1/2 year though so no hurry )
Last edited by Grinch (2011-11-18 22:56:14)

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Hi guys,
I know the subject it's a little bit weird but let me explain. I've a little VPS with a debian. I have to compile mono from sources, because mono in debian stable is too old for my pourpose. The VPS has a very low memory and it failed to compile from sources every time because during compilation mcs ( mono compiler ) uses too much memory and I didn't figure out how limit memory consumption ( with gcc it's pretty simple ) . Now there is the question : Can I compile mono in my archlinux and then copy all the building directory in my VPS and run "make install" ? I think that there isn't any problem with hardware ( I've a 64 bit architecture for VPS and for mine ). If it's impossible, has someone a solution ? Thanks for any reply and sorry for my engliss.
Kind regards,
Campo.

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Last edited by slithery (2014-02-25 22:21:58)

Archlinux for Wii

Heya folks, some of you might know we can use arch on the wii.
burrently we are using the archlinuxppc repos.
only issue is, most packages are compiled with altivec, which the wii's ppc processor dont have.
does anyone know how to get in touch with the ppc team?
we need any patches they have, for gcc and gcc-libs especially, their cvs is down.
any help appreciated!

Welcome to the forum, GizmoTheGreen!
http://www.archlinuxppc.org/developers/
Freenode: #archlinux-ppc
http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch-ports
You can get help here too, i think so.

Is it wrong for me to think that this is absurd?

I went to the Apple Store at Easton (Columbus, OH) today to get my Macbook Air 13'' (one model back) battery replaced. I made an appointment for 2:30, got served at 3:45 (because I guarentee they were taking 4S buyers w/o appointments before me). It's still in warranty, but the battery has gone to crap. The "Genius" there kept asking questions like what is my usage, do I use flash (cause normal Facebook usage has flash, you know...), if my wifi was on, etc. He turned off all services, wifi off, dimmed the screen completely, and I was getting 3.5 hours of battery life on 98% charge. So they tried to run the Apple Service diagnostic connect to the demo network, alt boot, but their server was down. So he said he could replace my battery, but they didn't have it in stock, so they'd call me when the had to order it.
The thing that irked me was that his "receipt/contract" thing says it will take 5-7 days for the replacement. 5-7 days...for a battery replacement? He said it would need diagnostics and stuff. Honestly, I work two jobs in tech (website management [requires CS5.5 daily] and computer repair [requires MS Office daily]) and am a full time student. Unless they are going to provide a replacement for me to use, I can't do it. I need it for both jobs and school, I don't have time to let them have my Air for 5-7 days to replace a dead battery.
So am I wrong to think that's absurd? Especially considering that this website: http://www.apple.com/support/macbookair/service/battery/ says that it should be a same day repair with an appointment once the battery is in stock? I'd like my laptop to work as intended, but I don't have the time to give it. Honestly I'll wait in the store an hour or two for it to be replaced, rather than it sitting on a shelf at Apple for a week.

Hi tjessberger,
Sounds perfectly normal, to be honest. First off, the people who help you at the Genius Bar don't sell products and the ratio of specialists to Genius in a store is usually 4 or 5 (at least) to 1. To have an appointment at 2:30pm on a Saturday and only be 45-minutes late is actually pretty good, that's probably the worst possible time on the worst possible day of the week to try and make an appointment. Now, that's not your fault, in a perfect world you should have been seen right away but that's just not how that works at 99% of the stores that I've been to on a Saturday.
Secondly, before arranging any sort of swap there's a series of usability and environmental questions that the tech needs to ask you. It's procedure, so the faster you can get through that part of the appointment then you can get on your way.
Thirdly, the 5 to 7 day quote is normal and the usual quote. You're right, the battery is considered same day service. But as Carl indicated the battery is not in-stock and as such the same day rule doesn't apply. If you drop your machine off, it goes into a queue and it goes to the end of the line. If they order your battery today the earliest it arrives is Tuesday, that's at least 3 days right there. So while your repair might be a 15 minute job for someone that knows what they're doing that's just not how the service queue works at Apple Retail.
The one-year limited warranty doesn't include a loaner why your machine is in for service, it is the responsibility of the owner to arrange a solution when your machine is in for repair. I'm surprised, if you're working two tech jobs that you don't have a work supplied machine or a second unit. You do all of your production work on just a MacBook Air?
What we use to arrange for customers on "quick repairs" is that we'd arrange to order the part for you and then have you bring the machine back to perform the service once the part was in-stock. We'd offer either same day service, or while you wait service based on the nature of the repair, the volume that day and the time (on that day) you brought it in. That seems like a reasonable solution for this issue.

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I had a small amoung of water soak throught my case, were the water reached the corner of the top side were the back of the computer is when it is open and want to know what the signs of water damage are so that I can look for them, only about 3/2.5 inches was with water of this corner. Would I have probelems right away if it was water damage????help please

"only about 3/2.5 inches was with water of this corner.?
How much is that in plain speak?
Spill Cleaning
And, don't think that just because it was two teaspoons and not a glassful that there is a difference.
Some liquid has just spilled into your Mac. What should you do?
Do
Immediately shut down the computer and unplug the power cord.
Remove the computer's battery (if you can)
Disconnect any peripherals (printers, iPods, scanners, cameras, etc.)
Lay the computer upside down on paper towels to get as much liquid as possible to drip out.
Note what was spilled on your Mac.
Bring the computer into an Apple store or AASP as soon as possible.
Don't
Don't try to turn it back on. Liquids can help electrical current move about the components of your Mac in destructive ways.
Don't shake the computer (this will only spread the liquid around).
Don't use a hair dryer on it (even at a low setting a hair dryer will damage sensitive components).
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Key features of ArchLinux for geeks and developers

Hello fellow Archers!
Here at ATNoG [1], we have bi-weekly meetings with discussions of several topics.
Planned for next Wednesday is a talk about which Operating System/Distribution each one uses, their major features and why each one would be good for others.
This is a networks and telecommunications group. Most of us work on low level, kernel code (network protocols), or mobile and security applications. Most people here use Windows, Ubuntu, openSUSE, Fedora, and maybe a few others, like Gentoo.
What I would like was to get (on top of mine and another's Archer here) your personal contributions on why ArchLinux is great, in this case for developers, people who like to have control of their machines, but also don't want software to get in his way through the times.
Thanks in advance,
André!
[1] - http://atnog.av.it.pt/

Archlinux provides a good amount of control on what occurs in your system. You may hear about this over and over but what does this actually mean? Some distros come with prepackaged applications and/or customizations. Some of these annoy me, for example, linux mint's(LM) firefox has a LM theme associated with it where if you google, 1/4 of the page has LM logos and 'garbage'. I like vanilla firefox, where it is kept simple, clean, and functional. This is just one aspect. Another area of control is in regards to understanding the libraries, dependencies, etc needed for an application to run. Because the default installation is bare bone, you get the opportunity to really understand the background requirements in running an application by debugging it and looking at the errors in logs. This helps the understanding that library A is needed to run application X. This knowledge is useful in case there are certain versions of library A (newer or older) that can cause bugs to occur in application X. Then we can look for the appropriate version and rummage through out of sync mirrors or even the library archive repository.
The arch way of configuration is simple in that the configuration is streamlined to follow the BSD style init.
Arch is rolling release, but unlike some distros, it is bleeding edge. Other rolling release distros can be outdated, simply holding onto packages, kernels, etc for a longer period. You may notice that they are not running on the latest kernel among other things. This may be crucial, in particular to a kernel, if the latest one has a fix for your hardware. Bleeding edge just adds a bonus to Arch that you always have access to the latest versions giving you the power to choose to stick with a stable older version or have it updated.
Overall, in the one month of using linux I've learnt a lot just by reading the wiki on Arch. It is by far the best wiki a distro has made so far for me. I haven't seen any other distros provide such a vast and updated wiki. I normally hate asking questions but really there is rarely a need as the wiki plus forums provide all the answers. Of course if there is an unique issue, the community comes together as long as you provide detailed information and have exhausted all other sources.
Although I am not a dev, I would imagine the above reasons plenty for any dev to welcome this type of environment where control in their environment is critical to the success of the project they are working on.

(SOLVED) can not update ArchLinux for about three weeks

Hello, I can not update my system for at least 3 weeks, someone could point me to the right direction? thank you in advance !
[bier@laptop-arch ~]$ sudo pacman -Syu
Password:
:: Synchronizing package databases...
core 103.8 KiB 58.7K/s 00:02 [######################] 100%
extra 1383.7 KiB 58.3K/s 00:24 [######################] 100%
community 1650.0 KiB 58.1K/s 00:28 [######################] 100%
archlinuxfr 32.9 KiB 27.5K/s 00:01 [######################] 100%
:: Starting full system upgrade...
:: Replace gnupg2 with core/gnupg? [Y/n] y
resolving dependencies...
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: util-linux will be installed before its udev dependency
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: rhino will be installed before its jre7-openjdk-headless dependency
looking for inter-conflicts...
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: jogl: requires java-runtime
Last edited by mabier (2012-03-30 08:15:42)

jasonwryan wrote:There is a heap of threads about this java thing already - please search the boards before posting...
yes, I find the solution here :https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=137836, thanks.

Using an apple extreme with an apple express as a wired bridge for roaming. Thinking of adding a wireless express to extend network.

Hi
I have an Apple extreme AC installed with an Apple Express N setup as a bridge through ethernet to extend my network. Im thinking of adding another express to a location that has no ethernet.
All I should need to do is set the extreme for "extend my Network" and setup the express that way as well?
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You should not have to make any changes at all on the AirPort Extreme.
Temporarily, locate the new Express near the AirPort Extreme and power it up for a few minutes
On the iPad....
Tap Settings on the home screen
Tap WiFi
Look for a listing of Setup a new AirPort Base Station
Tap on AirPort Express
The setup utility will take a minute to analyze things, then announce that the Express will be configured to extend the AirPort Extreme network
Enter a device name that you want use for the Express and tap Next
Wait a minute while things are set up for you, then tap Done when you see the Setup Complete message.
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Want to learn GNU/Linux for real. Thinking of trying Arch.

So, I'm thinking about trying to put Arch Linux on a partition to force myself into a more "intimate" relationship with Linux, while still using Ubuntu as my primary operating system.
So far, I've been using Ubuntu for two years and kinda treading water in terms of actually understanding the system. I understand what my system is doing only slightly better than they average 'tech-savy windows user' might, which is to say that I am quite good manipulating the GUI, have customised a couple of configuration files (though nothing really essential to the system), and can get some basic tasks done from the command line. I've managed to figure out how to do custom booting and partitioning for multiple operating systems as well, but relying heavily on GUI tools. I have no idea how to, say, do a full hardware configuration, or even get the gnome GUI up and running from a console. I have used a couple of command line tools to listen to music, watch movies, and browse the web, but not much more. Last but not least, I'm terrified of vim and emacs. I can usually bend nano to my will if I must, but if edit any system files, it will normally be in gedit.
I want to fix all of that, and I think Arch might force me to learn it all properly.
Is it biting off more than I can chew? Is there a better way to learn Linux, or perhaps a distro that would be more conducive to my goal?
I'm no pro, I just want to learn.
Last edited by ninjaaron (2010-12-10 17:40:10)

ninjaaron wrote:
Well, linux ninjitsu would be idea.
What would you say if I did what you said here, but just skipped out on the slackware and the gentoo?
I've had this secret crazy dream of doing LFS for a while... I even have the book on my hard-drive, but I knew I could never pull it off at my current level of knowledge.
Hence: Arch
Well that is only my personal guide. I've actually seen people on this forum claim to go from Windows (and no real previous Linux experience) to Arch successfully. I think it really depends on how technical you are and how hard you're willing to try.
I put slackware in there because it's package managers usually don't track dependencies like Debian/Ubuntu does. The default Slackware install is pretty easy then but adding stuff will help you learn about dependencies more and how they work. And it'll help you get off any reliance you have on .deb packages coming from Ubuntu. It also gives you some experience with one of the earliest Linux Distributions.
As for Gentoo, I put that after Arch to act as kind of a transition into LFS (source based entirely). It shows you the difference between binary and source based distros -- although Arch or even Ubuntu can be entirely built from source too, in theory. The idea is by the end of it you would have a good idea of what you like best having had time to try most of the major distros and of various types.
You can do anything you like.
Last edited by davidm (2010-12-10 20:05:09)

KT8 Neo2 Bios Updates. V 9.0 for MS 6702e, for X2 I think.

Hi Folks,
Been sent bios for Neo2 KT8. I believe it is upgrade for the X2 processors, I ain't got an X2 yet, so if anyone wants to try it email me.
Cheers
Jocko

Quote from: Fredrik Åsenius on 01-November-07, 09:50:10
I don't know German that well, perhaps someone else does. Found this, and I think he used a floppy disk :
http://msi-forum.de/thread.php?goto=nextnewest&threadid=26922&sid=15f4c68286c8a31d4eebe30cf391ead8
"Also das ist nun wirklich total crazy.
Habs noch mal weiter versucht mit ner Beta Version auch wieder das gleiche, ewiges durchschleifen.
Habe dann die Geduld verloren und stumpf den Reset Knopf gedrückt (ja, ich weiß, ziemlich blöd aber ich hab meine letzte Hoffnung auf meine Notfall Diskette gesetzt).
Hab mit allem gerechnet, nur nicht dmait das mein Rechner startet. Und das seltsamerweise mit Bios Version 3.31a.
Na ja, gestaunt und fix nochmal von Diskette mit Version 9.3 getestet und siehe da...
... es zuckt. Übliche gemacht CMOS gelöscht, Bios auf Default usw... neu gestartet, Ram läuft im Dual Modus HURRRRRRRRA.
Bei Win Start sind alle Treiber nochmal neu inizalisiert oder installiert (wie auch immer, es geht JUHUU) worden, nochmal ein Neustart und alles Perfect.
Wollex ich Dank dir, ohne deinen Tipp mit WinSFI würd ich in 5 Jahren noch hier hocken."
Uh, coincidentally, I'm German (hence the slow part further up!). I found that piece of information a few hours ago too tho. I've tried the same thing of course (got the loop in SFI too, as explained.. then resetted because there was no other option left). Only difference, I then tried to flash from DVDRW and Ramdisk instead of a floppy disk, because .. well, I don't own a floppy disk drive! No luck tho.
I guess I'll try contacting MSI, as Bosskiller suggested.. thank you for your assistance.

Using ArchLinux for daily work!

Hello!
I started my Linux career with Debian Sarge (currently running on my server). For my desktop-machine I use gentoo Linux about 6 weeks, but it was to much "package-administration" for me. I like it to work with my console, but I want a distribution, who isn't so costly to administrate.
config-files --> my job
package-management --> job of the distribution, without much work for me.
ArchLinux is a distribution, which hit's my philosphopy of a ideal Linux system.
But their is a problem:
Arch is a very young distribution, which haven't so much packages like gentoo. Ok, no problem! I can made my packages easy by yourself!
But the basic system + desktop should be stable packages, without much error fixing.
Now my question
Is ArchLinux "mature" to use it for the daily work, without much error fixing?
Thank's for your answers!
Greetings,
flasher
P.S.: I hope someone can read my english, it's a little bit german-english

I've been using Arch as my main machine at work for several months now. The updates have gone fairly well with no major problems. Overall it's done better than other distros in this regard and so as far as stability goes I'd give it very high marks.
I only have two complaints which you may want to consider:
1) If you are using it as a server it's tough to differentiate which updates are needed for security. Yes you can ignore packages but unless you keep track of the security updates individually you'll have a tough time. IMHO the Debian way is better where they have a source specifically for security updates. That way you don't have to worry about your postgres dbase getting updated unless there's a security flaw.
2) Using it as a desktop machine I had major problems with my USB card reader that I just couldn't ever figure out. I tried just about everything I could imagine but never got it working. Same hardware worked flawlessly in Ubuntu and OSX just by plug and play.
But to reiterate, I've been using it as my main machine at work for at least 3 months now with no failures. So if you can get it working the way you want you should have no problem using it long-term

In youtube any video gets open for download, I think through an add-on but I have a few of them and i don't know which one

For example, say, I open this youtube page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-ORhEE9VVg
Firefox opens it and whithin 5 seconds, with no action on my part - no clicking, typing, nothing - transfers me over to:
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Which sometimes stays in the address bar over a completely blank window, (like in the case stated above) and sometimes opens a download window, with the video in mp4. It suggests I open the file with VLC.
Is this a virus or something - or is it something an add-on would be responsible for?
I have the following add-ons (in the way that they are listed on my toolbar):
Down them all
Download Helper
Flash Video Downloader (which recently got automaitically updated)
Download flash & video (forgot this add-on's name, that's what it says on the tool tip on mouse-over)
FlashGot
and GreasMonkey (but with only 2 scripts, and none of them related to videos, just IMDb fixer and Image enlarger)
I have the VLC Media Player Plug-in, could this be the reason this is happening?
I know what you're gonna say - try disabling them to see which one it is. It's complicated :) but I can't, I've got too many windows open, like 700, and shutting Firefox down or restaring it the normal way is near next to impossible sometimes :)
Another way is for me to save my session file and open a new session, and then disable add-ons one by one to see which one's to blame. It's even possible some of them are maybe incompatible with this version of Firefox.
So f someone can tell me if they're having the same problems, and maybe suggest a solution, I'd be happy to hear all about it.
Thanks in advance :)

Start '''[https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-firefox-issues-using-safe-mode Firefox in Safe Mode]''' {web Link} by holding down the '''<Shift ''(Mac Options)'' >''' key, and then starting Firefox. Is the problem still there?

Sorry, my apple account is locked , i can't buy something from a game , some ussualy points for cash , i think i chosed another card which has not enough money for that purchase

Can you just unlock my account to purchase from another card?

We are all just fellow users here and can't unlock anything for you. If your account is locked so that you can't sign in to enter in a new purchase method, go here:
http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/contact/
and follow the instructions to contact the iTunes Store and request assistance.
Regards.

My MacBook Pro has an update available for Maverick I think it was

My MacBook Pro had an update available for the Maverick and I did not hit the update because kept erroring out. I was updating other things and decided to hit it too and that time finally updated. Then right after the laptop looked for updates and did another one. It asked to install whatever the upstate on the OS or X was and then took 50 minutes to install it then more time to complete it. When computer finally came back on it asked for my apple ID for iCloud. I typed it in several times correct fly but it would not take it and finally chose forgot. It went to a new blank box with the asterisk wheel winding around and choice of continue highlighted below next to un highlighted back. Now I am frozen here and can't do anything with laptop. Will not allow me to highlight and choose back. Can't get it to continue. Tried esc. Tried force close and tells me I must quit setup assistant first. Can't get top controls to show up. Finally got a second desktop background to come up and pushed F 3 and tried to use buttons below and above and will pull-up things like Safari but can't use it and can't pull up the set up assistant this way to choose quit either. So I am just stuck. Help please, anyone. How do I get use of my laptop again??
I don't really know if it is maverick or what number OS it is. Just know had picture of mountain lion.

That sounds like you have installed Mavericks over the top of Mountain Lion?
Do you know what version of the OS was on the laptop before you started?
Do you have any backups from before the 'update', either a Time Machine disk or a full copy (a.k.a. bootable clone)?
Mavericks is not a simple update, despite Apple's constant nagging to 'update' to it. It's possible that the Mavericks installer has overwritten the old OS, but I suspect it may simply need you to create a user account with the setup assistant. It's a very good idea to make a full backup before applying any major OS upgrade.
I would reboot, fill out the details for setup assistant and when it is time to enter the user details enter a new account name (this will be your admin account). The assistant should then create a user account that you can login with to look at the contents of the Mac's disk.
Then you should open the /Users folder (Use 'Finder menu > Go > Go to folder…' to open /Users) & see if the old users home folders are still intact. You may also want to see if any third party Applications are still installed.
If the old data is intact, and the account isn't listed in 'System Preferences > Users & groups' it can be recreated, provided you make sure to use the same 'shortname' as the Users home folder.
If the data is gone, I'm afraid it's possible that it is lost, I can't see this being likley because the 10.9 installer will not delete user data without some stern warnings & advanced user interaction.
An alternative would be to connect this Mac to another Mac & look at the disk to see if the data is still there before you create the user acount. Do you have access to another Mac? You may be able to use Thunderbolt or Firewire to see this Mac's disk on another working Mac.
Target disk mode
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1661

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