Is it possible to flash MBP efi firmware without OSX?

hi, i came from this post: macbookpro A1226 (2007) stuck on apple logo or autoreboot no matter from what i boot
in that posted i mentioned i found a way to do this, but i was mistaken, because the guide i found points about upgrading "ssds" without mac osx, but not the mac firmware, so if someone know about this, if this would be posible from the same mac or a windows machine to create the bootable media to upgrade the machine firmware it would be wonderful.

CaptainMorgan08 wrote:
You can't run a jar file without a JRE. You can create an exe file from the jar, but that defeats the whole platform-independence thing.not just that, but "native compilers" just wrap a JRE with the needed subset of the class libraries around the application jar(s), add some bootstrapping code, and call it a native executable.
So you'd still have a JVM :)

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Model identifier
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SMC version
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Message was edited by: Cathy821

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