Is there an 800 to / from FireWire Hub ?

Apple in their wisdom(?????????) have provided only one 800 FireWire port in the iMac i purchase recently.
I had to buy a cable to connect my FW drives and devices that have 400 ports to the 800 port.
However there are issues/problems daisy chaining my FW drives and devices.
Is there a 800 to/from 400 FireWire hub ?

lakewoodlawnman wrote:
I use a 400 hub and the 400 firewire cable that goes from the hub to my iMac has an 800 adapter on the end. Works great. May not have the 800 speed but I have 2 HD and 2 Optical drives hooked up to the hub. I got my adapter at Micro Center for $14.99 US.
Technically it's a 6-pin to 9-pin FireWire Adapter.
Thanks.
This is how i picture your setup/hookup, as follows:
☑ you have the FireWire Adapter plugged into the 800 port of your iMac
then
☑ you cable the 400 powered HUB to the FireWired Adapter.
If this old goof has it right then great because then i can turn on the device i really need to work with.

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