Issue with - Consume Web Services in a Messaging Only Scenario

Hello,
I am trying to consume a Oracle - SOA web service in BizTalk.
1. I followed the below MSDN post,
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa560545%28v=bts.70%29.aspx
but I am getting "The custom tool 'BtsDiscoCodeGenerator' failed." error.
2. Tried another approach like the below blog
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/amantaras/archive/2010/03/03/consuming-a-web-service-in-a-non-orchestration-scenario.aspx
In this case, I am getting this error
"A message sent to adapter "SOAP" on send port "xxx" with URI "<<WSDL>>" is suspended.
Error details: Failed to serialize the message part "ProcessPOAck1" into the type "ProcessPOAckType" using namespace "xxx". Please ensure that the message part stream is created properly. "
I made sure there are no data type errors... I have copied the message to SoapUI and tested successfully. The message (output from BizTalk map) does not have soap envelop though. I had to copy
the message in
<soapenv:Envelope xmlns:soapenv="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" <<some name spaces>>
   <soapenv:Header/>
   <soapenv:Body>
   </soapenv:Body>
</soapenv:Envelope>
tags to submit a request successfully.
Any help in this regard is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Venkat.

Why are you using the SOAP adapter instead of the WCF Adapter? I think the only way to do that would be with some fairly heavy custom pipeline components.
Using the WCF Adapter, this is very easy - you just need to subscribe to the result message from the web service call - not a big deal, just play with the promoted properties and see what you have; normally SPName. This can be sent to a file location
with Overwrite set so that you never run out of disk space (if you don't care about the content response).
-Dan
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          namespace = 'http://swanandmokashi.com' . "xml_element->get_namespace_uri( ).
          IF NOT xml_element IS INITIAL.
          ENDIF.
          ws_header->set_request_header(
                      name = name
                      namespace = namespace
                      dom = xml_element ).
          xml_element ?= xml_element->get_next( ).
        ENDWHILE.
      ENDIF.
    ENDIF.
CATCH cx_ai_system_fault .
ENDTRY.
*Call soap body using abap proxy class.
DATA: get_quotes TYPE zzget_quotes_soap_out .
DATA: get_quotes1 TYPE zzget_quotes_soap_in .
get_quotes1-quote_ticker = 'GE'.
TRY.
    CALL METHOD ref_stock->get_stock_quotes
      EXPORTING
        get_quotes1 = get_quotes1
      IMPORTING
        get_quotes = get_quotes.
CATCH cx_ai_system_fault .
CATCH cx_ai_application_fault .
ENDTRY.
4.It is throwing cx_ai_system_fault error.
SOAP details:
Input:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<soap:Envelope xmlns:soap="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:s="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:enc="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding" >
<soap:Header>
<s1:LicenseInfo xmlns:s1="http://ws.strikeiron.com">
<s1:RegisteredUser>
<s1:UserID>[email protected]</s1:UserID>
<s1:Password>aaaaaaaa</s1:Password>
</s1:RegisteredUser>
</s1:LicenseInfo>
</soap:Header>
<soap:Body>
<tns:GetQuotes xmlns:tns="http://swanandmokashi.com">
<tns:QuoteTicker>GE</tns:QuoteTicker>
</tns:GetQuotes>
</soap:Body>
</soap:Envelope>
Thanks,
Kavitha.

Hi ,
Thank you for the response. Did you passed user email and password ([email protected] /aaaaaaaa) part of licenseinfo->resisteredUser along with Quoteticker GE in analyzer?
<a href="http://www.strikeiron.com/Analyzer/OnlineAnalyzer.aspx?WSDL=http://ws.strikeiron.com/SwanandMokashi/StockQuotes?WSDL">ANALYZER</a>
Thanks,
Kavitha.

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no problem. Also using SoapUI works perfectly fine.
I am generating the XSDs and the port binding with the WCF wizard in VS2010. I've read several comments that it's not possible to consume web services with the WCF-WSHttp adapter when the message format should be SOAP 1.1. Therefore I'm trying with the WCF-BasicHttp
and WCF-Custom adapters, but I did not suceed in receiving a positive response yet.
The web service I want to consume uses a client certificate (with a private key) and two root certificates. When I use the BasicHttp adapter I choose either 'Transport' or 'TransportWithMessageCredential' but none of them work. I also have to supply a client
and a service certificate. I always use the one with the private key for the client but I'm not sure which one I have to use for the service. Is there a possibility that I have to provide both root certificates and if so, how can I achieve this?
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Binding: customBinding
Cannot send pictures (yet).
<configuration>
<enterpriseLibrary.ConfigurationSource selectedSource="ESB File Configuration Source" />
<system.serviceModel>
<client>
<endpoint address="...." behaviorConfiguration="EndpointBehavior" binding="customBinding" bindingConfiguration="ReceiptBinding" contract="BizTalk" name="WebServicePort" />
</client>
<behaviors>
<endpointBehaviors>
<behavior name="EndpointBehavior">
<clientCredentials>
<clientCertificate findValue="..." x509FindType="FindByThumbprint" />
<serviceCertificate>
<defaultCertificate findValue="..." storeLocation="LocalMachine" storeName="AuthRoot" x509FindType="FindByThumbprint" />
</serviceCertificate>
</clientCredentials>
</behavior>
</endpointBehaviors>
<serviceBehaviors>
<behavior name="ServiceBehavior" />
</serviceBehaviors>
</behaviors>
<bindings>
<customBinding>
<clear />
<binding name="ReceiptBinding">
<textMessageEncoding messageVersion="Soap11" />
<security authenticationMode="MutualCertificate" />
<httpsTransport proxyAuthenticationScheme="Basic" requireClientCertificate="true" />
</binding>
</customBinding>
</bindings>
</system.serviceModel>
</configuration>

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We have Oracle 10g (10.2.0.3.0) 64 bit. We have a situation where we need to consume web service whose security header looks like as follow,
<soapenv:Header>
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<wsse:UsernameToken wsu:Id="UsernameToken-50">
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<wsu:Created>2013-01-22T06:28:38.897Z</wsu:Created>
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Here we need passowrd digest, Nonce and Timestamp.
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I do not see why it will not be possible to do digest authentication with a web server using PL/SQL.
As for the digest password - the web server supplies a token (a nonce) which you need to use for creating the hashed authentication token (the digest password). The URL I posted explains this authentication process.
As for the technical how-to in PL/SQL - as I mentioned, never had to do this (only dealt with Basic and NTLM authentication thus far). But as other auth methods (such as Microsoft's NTLM) can be implemented, I do not see why digest authentication could not.
Suggest you spend some time googling for technical articles/sample code on the subject - and try to find specific PL/SQL related sample code too.

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Hi All,
I Want to consume web service in abap, i found lot of documents,Here i am having data in the internal table i need to pass
it to wsdl file, The Web Service or Proxy generates a WSDL file. So this WSDL file can be consumed on ABAP Front and Encrypt the Data that is to be sent to the Banks.
I found the input and output, Where i can find the method generated or we need to create it
CALL METHOD io_clientproxy->XXXXXXXXXXXX
please let me have your valuable ideas
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Arun.

Hi Miguel,
I have not heared about SPROXY, Here i found some code,which calls a web service method and where it is from.
when i double click on my proxy it shows me some method.IF_PROXY_BASIS_INTERNAL~CREATE_FRAMEWORK
this is the one web service method. and i meed to pass the internal table data to WSDL file.
*-- create web service proxy class instance
TRY.
    CREATE OBJECT io_clientproxy
      EXPORTING
        logical_port_name = 'LP4'.
CATCH cx_ai_system_fault.
ENDTRY.
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TRY.
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        input = input
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        output = output.
CATCH cx_ai_system_fault.
CATCH cx_ai_application_fault.
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output_string = output-get_airport_information_by_is.
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REPLACE ALL OCCURRENCES OF
'>' IN output_string WITH '>' .
REPLACE ALL OCCURRENCES OF
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*-- parsing
TRY .
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            SOURCE XML output_string
            RESULT     outtab = outtab.
CATCH cx_xslt_exception INTO xslt_err.
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    s = xslt_err->get_text( ).
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    STOP.
ENDTRY .
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Consuming Web Service Issues

Hello All,
I appreciate any help in getting me pointed in the right
Direction.
I am trying to pull values from my vender's web services.
They required that I place .wsdl file on my server then call to the
local file which will then make calls to their server on the
Internet. I placed the .wsdl file on my webserver and then
referenced it via cfinvoke command. I keep getting the following
error no mater what parameters I change.
"Web service operation getDefaultVehicleAndValueByVin with
parameters {vehicleRequest={3HGCM56477G705152}} cannot be found."
Here is my Code. Any ideas or where I can go to get me jump
started would be great. I tried googling but find very basic
examples.
Thanks
Craig

Making you put the wsdl file on your local machine is very
bad architecture. It's a mess to support. What if it changes? Then
they have to send new wsdl files out to everyone that is using
their webservice. You might want to point that out to them.
Even though the "?wsdl" is often the syntax used in web
services to retrieve the wsdl file it's not required and wouldn't
be used for the local wsdl file. Though you do put the soap port in
the URL for a remote call.
I found with the web services I have to call, with the
complex types the only way I could get it to work was by using
cfhttp with a post and setting the SOAPACTION to the method to
call. Here is one example, and there are others out there.
http://www.jamesnetherton.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/1/14/Invoking-a-webservice-using-CFHTTP
I find that when you have many complex types that Coldfusion
is about as easy to use with web services as carrying an 800 lb.
gorilla.
Jim

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