JMS Interoperability between vendors

Hi,
I have been tasked with providing a number or proposals for connecting our enterprise to a number of external partners via a queueing mechanism. i.e. a B2B hub.
I am pretty familiar with JMS, but concerns have been voiced over the interoperability between vendors; something I have no direct experience of.
For example as part of my proposal I may suggest that we send out messages to JMS servers hosted on the partners sites. These partners use a variety of technologies including WebMethods, BizTalk, IBM etc. which we can assume all support JMS (including IBM MQ as I have been told).
Has anyone ever come across interoperability issues with regards to JMS? If I send out JMS messages from one vendor will they be seamlessly received by the target vendors JMS server?
Any shared experience would be appreciated.

Hi Joe,
Thanks for your response. The thing is that this refers to SOAP over JMS, i.e. JMS is the underlying transport protocol not SOAP which brings me back to the original problem interoperability of JMS vendors.
In fact the specification (taken from your first link) states:
"It does NOT provide any mechanism for interoperation between two different JMS providers. In the example above, VendorA and VendorB are different providers of a Web services infrastructure, but the customer must still use a single implementation of JMS at both client and service side."
However your input has highlighted something I was unaware of; that is that there are also interoperability issues within SOAP between different vendors. This is dissapointing; I assumed that SOAP worked without any interoperablity issues whatsover.

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          > > "Mac" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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          > > > Sorry Tom, I think that I have not explained well my problem.
          > > >
          > > > The following extrange symbols are supposed to be an explaining
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