Kde apps in gnome

I'm not sure what I'm missing here.. When I try using kde apps in gnome they all fail to launch, I'm confused about what Arch needs to run them. I have tried installing ktorrent and rosegarden. I get the same error on both:
/opt/kde/bin/ktorrent
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-4702' to 'kded'
kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-4693' to 'ktorrent'
ERROR: Communication problem with ktorrent, it probably crashed.
I guess I'm missing some depends or something, I tried searching forums and wiki but nothing...

When I logged out/in $PATH was updated and I can call the apps directly, also they got added to the gnome meny.. but guess what? still the same problem

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delphinen wrote:
Is there a way to hide KDE apps in Gnome Applications menu?
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gugah wrote:
Did you try removing the KDE temp files?
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Didn't work for me but thank you anyway.
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The first one is PulseAudio specific problem on KDE, there are others who have had this.
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Hi guys!
I did not find anything useful about the following problem:
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Sjoden wrote:What I need to replace:
Konqueror, for great samba support
K3B, best cd burning/ripping tool I know of.
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KPDF, best pdf viewer I've ever used. Very clean, polished, and best working page preview/bookmarks pane I've seen.
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http://regis.damongeot.free.fr/tkdvd/
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Kate:
Vim is light when it's running, but it's not light on dependencies. I still love it more than anything else (yes, even more than Kate). But depending on what you want to edit, you might find a more task-/language-specific editor which might have dependencies you already have (for example, Vim pulls in Python, which I need anyway, so it's okay).
KPDF:
I use xpdf. It's reliable and it gets the job done, but it doesn't look too good, and it doesn't 'remember' the pages you were last reading. But it's till a good replacement. I've also used Adobe Reader, but it's just too heavy on resources, and it can sometimes lock my system randomly.

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When I logged out/in $PATH was updated and I can call the apps directly, also they got added to the gnome meny.. but guess what? still the same problem

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I use also some KDE applications in openbox, and I saw also the 7% cpu usage of knotify4 after the upgrade to KDE 4.6 with a new $HOME/.kde4.
I could suppress that the same way as mentioned in https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=77531 post #2
ie choosing "No audio output" for the notifications.
I use regularly Konsole and play some KDE games; here are the KDE related processes running continuously :
berbae 4400 1 0 10:32 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit4: kdeinit4 Runnin e
berbae 4402 4400 0 10:32 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit4: klauncher [kdei e
berbae 4404 1 0 10:32 ? 00:00:00 kdeinit4: kded4 [kdeinit]
root 4412 1 0 10:32 ? 00:01:31 /usr/lib/upower/upowerd
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berbae 4460 4458 0 10:33 pts/0 00:00:00 /bin/bash
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