Kde4 kf5 and plasma next

Hello, i am a bit confused about DE kde. I have the last update of kde4 (4.14.0) available for Arch. But i know it is already available kf5 too. So i should wait a new update that will convert kde4.14 to kf5 sooner or later, or i should install kf5 since now? And for plasma next? thank you!

caligula wrote:
blauman wrote:so there will be an update from kde4 to new version 5 sooner or later?
Eventually.
The current situation is somewhat confusing - you can no longer refer to "KDE" as a single application package, so "KDE 5" is meaningless.
There are now three different pieces of software you can consider "KDE":
* KDE Frameworks - the base libraries. These are now at stable version 5.0.1
* KDE Applications - the apps you know & love such as dolphin, ark, etc etc. These are now at version 4.14, and will be gradually upgraded to 5.x. By this time next year they should all be at 5.x.
* Plasma - Plasma is the actual desktop shell. It encompasses the desktop, widgets, activities, panels, etc etc. Plasma is now at version 5, but the new packages are not yet available for arch in binary form - only in the AUR.
thank you caligula, now it is a little more clear. So a kde user should wait the kde applications and plasma update to 5. But about kf5? i have seen that if i try to install kf5, the system make me replace my old versions to the new. it is convenient replace them now?

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