LabVIEW Mobile Module ... obsolete?

So I have been looking at the LabVIEW Mobile Module. It seems like an interesting tool. The main product page says you can "use the LabVIEW Mobile Module to develop applications for the latest handheld devices and smartphones."
The "latest" devices?
It seems to me that it only support up to Windows Mobile 6.0? Which is about 4+ years old?
Anyone know of NI's roadmap for supporting mobile devices? Seems like they are a bit slow to catch on to the "app revolution".

There has been discussion about this recently and basically upgrades are on hold apparently while NI tries to get a handle on the exploding handheld market and figures out what target(s) to concentrate on, at least as far as I can make out.
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Does LabVIEW Mobile Module support Window CE 6.0 R3 version? What are the hardware requirements?
Also, is it compatible with CPU Marvel PXA310 or PXA 320?

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Mobile module modbus I/O Server

Hi,
Is it possible to establish a communiccation with modbus protocol between the PDA (master) and the slave device via WIFI connection?
I like to do this with configuring the I/O Server, not with the modbus library.
Best regards,
Zdenko.

Hello,
I am sorry to give you a negative answer to your question.
I have LabVIEW Mobile module 2009 and DSC and a PDA target does not support I/O Server.
I have also installed modbus library, but some functions and proprieties under library's vi s are not supported under mobile target.
Probabily you could develop very low level code for mobile to implement modbus server, but it's very complicated.
Regards,
Emil

Shared Variable connectivity in LabVIEW Mobile

Hello,
I'm developping an application for a portable device running Pocket PC 2003 O/S.
I'm trying to figure out whether shared variable connectivity VIs (Open, Read, Write, etc..) are supported in LabVIEW Mobile 2010 module or not?
Is dragging shared variables from the "My Computer" target directly under "Pocket PC 2003 Device" target the only way to use shared variables in LabVIEW Mobile?
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Is NI planning to implement progamatically connecting/reading/writing/closing of SV's functionality using the PDA/LabVIEW Mobile module ?.
In my company we have started to include a cFP 2220 + various I/O modules with one of our products - might I say thats not easy when the Siemens guys can sell their PLC's at a fraction of the NI cost- but please do read on...
As a user-interface an 8" touch panel is used. One of the problems is that I have to "hardcode" the IP address of the SV's used on the touch panel to connect to specific variables on the cFP 2220 var. engine. This gives the tedious work of recompiling the touch panel code over and over again for specific customers needing specific IP addresses for their cFP controllers. And if the customer uses MAX to change the IP address of the cFP, then his GUI stops working.
Initiallly I had this problem with the cFP 2120 controller, and thought that my problems would be solved when the cFP2220 came out, since it has two network cards. One card could then be used for "local" communication with the touch panel/GUI and the other for the company network of our customer. Needless to say I was sad to find out that the var. engine can only run on one of the cards - not both.
The only other solution I see it to implement a homemade protocol via TCP/IP, but this is a lot of work and not really the intention of the Shared Variable.
Any suggestions to a soltion of the above problem would be greatly apriciated.
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Mobile Module for Labview 2009

Hello,
What do I need to install to use Mobile Module with Labview 2009?
I have installed Labview 2009 but I don't see the PDA icon on the main page.

I have seen this link, but it doesn't say what I need to check when installing Labview 2009 SP1 in order to get the Mobile Module.
I work at The University of Twente and we have a full license, so I'm sure it has to be at the install checkbox somewhere...

Labview PDA module 7.1 and Windows Mobile 5.0

Hi!
In spite of reading that Labview PDA module is compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0, I've tried to compile an application for Pocket Pc 2003 in my device (which has a Windows Mobile 5.0 OS) and it doesn't work. It seems that the process fails when the executable is being sent to the device. Does anybody know what happens and what can I do to solve it? It's strange because the same application compiles properly with a device with Windows 2003 OS!
If it was not possible to solve, could I create an executable directly in my Pc and then copy it in the device?
Thank you very much for your help!!!!
Greta

I believe it was said that the problem with writing for CE 5 is only with downloading the application, which you need to do manually. You can do this by copying the EXE to the device's shared folder. ActiveSync should automatically recognize that and synchronize the folders, so you will have the file on the PocketPC. Another option is to copy it to the Mobile Device folder, which should appear under My Computer.
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Internal Error 2738 - Can't install Mobile Module 8.6

Hello,
i have installed the LabVIEW 8.6.1 in my notebook.
And i have tried to install the Mobile module 8.6, but i get the error all the time (error 2738).
i have tried to solve the problem by the following link, but the error still appears.
http://forums.ni.com/ni/board/message?board.id=170&message.id=357697&requireLogin=False
i use the windows 7 to install LabVIEW program. Is the mobile module not support the win7?
i hope someone have a solution for this problem... i really do't want to reinstall my system to vistal or xp >_<
Bestregards,
Jaron

Support for Windows 7 is not available yet. The only OS' that are supported are Windows Vista (32- and 64-bit)/XP/2000.
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Unflatten From String Not Functioning in Mobile Module 2011

Mobile Module does not get updated since version 2011. I am not sure my question will be solved.
I have been using Simple Messaging Reference Library (STM) for a couple of years. I use them in my Mobile Module code too. It has been working fine until lately I updated to the latest version of STM.
I noticed that 'Read Message (TCP).vi' was not functioning properly in the Mobile Module code. After a long debugging, I found the source of the problem. 'Unflattern From String.vi' does not work in Mobile Module any more. I did a test as shown above.
My questions are
1). 'Unflattern From String' was changed so it is not supported in Mobile Module 2011?
2) Why the same code worked before, but not now?
I use LabVIEW 2011 and Mobile Module 2011. Thanks.

MengHuiHanTang wrote:
Mobile Module does not get updated since version 2011. I am not sure my question will be solved.
I have been using Simple Messaging Reference Library (STM) for a couple of years. I use them in my Mobile Module code too. It has been working fine until lately I updated to the latest version of STM.
I noticed that 'Read Message (TCP).vi' was not functioning properly in the Mobile Module code. After a long debugging, I found the source of the problem. 'Unflattern From String.vi' does not work in Mobile Module any more. I did a test as shown above.
My questions are
1). 'Unflattern From String' was changed so it is not supported in Mobile Module 2011?
2) Why the same code worked before, but not now?
I use LabVIEW 2011 and Mobile Module 2011. Thanks.
Is that the real code or just a mockup to demonstrate the issue? I'm asking because the code is set up to run once and then wait until the stop button is pressed. Then the VI will complete and exit. Is the the desired behavior?
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HTC PDA deployment problem using Mobile Module

Hi all,
I am trying to connect my HTC PDA Kaiser (TyTN II) to a customized device using the miniUSB port. This PDA runs Windows Mobile 6, I am using Labview 8.6 (and I am using the Mobile Module - former PDA module) on Windows Vista.
However, I am having a couple of issues trying to do this. Initially I am trying to discover, if the application deployed on the PDA using Mobile Module sees the miniUSB port as a virtual COM port (or serial). This would make my job much easier.
Nevertheless, way before that, I simply cannot deploy my application on the PDA because there are two files missing during the building process(attached file): windows.h and commctrl.lib, according to the message error.
I was trying to follow the simple tutorial on http://www.ni.com/pdf/manuals/371296d.pdf but the deployment process stops when I get this message. I installed all the necessary files (Virtual PC 2007, Windows Mobile Device Center and I think LV does the rest) and of course the mobile module. I read about the installation known issues, uninstalling Visual Studio 2008, reinstalling Labview like some of the threads suggested (http://forums.ni.com/ni/board/message?board.id=170&requireLogin=False&thread.id=132656) and still didn't work. I wouldn't go that far to reinstall Windows, would I?
I know that it might be something related to a wrong path according to the attached log error file during the C generation code, however I am still not sure what's the path supposed to be!
Does anyone could give any suggestions?
Kind regards,
Edgar Charry
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Hi Anna,
Thanks for the reply. Yes, it is Windows Vista 32-bit Home.
Certainly the reason is that the builder looks after these two files, that simply doesn't exist. I know it, because I looked for them, and found on the PocketPC2003 - smartphone folder (..\Labview 8.6\PDA\Utilities\VC\Smartdevices\SDK\PocketPC2003\include and lib). And the only one I can at least emulate is indeed the PocketPC2003 SmartPhone!
So, if your emulator for the Windows Mobile 6 platform works (emulates any VI), could you please give me the correct path of the Windows Mobile 6 and also the files? Here I have: ..\Labview 8.6\PDA\Utilities\VC\Windows Mobile 6 SDK\PocketPC\Deviceemulation\Pocket_PC (and a couple of others, which are pretty much empty - no header files or libraries there, just the PNG files of the figures of the emulators). That's it.
I tried copying the lib and the include folders there, but also didn't work....
Thanks Anna,
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Call precompiledDll in mobile module

Hi,
I need to call the precompiled dll in my mobile project.
I got struck while building the application its gives a "error missing vi or c file"
I have no idea what to do.since i am new to this.
what method i need to follow to call the precompiled dll and make my mobile app working?
Pls.help me on this
Regards,
Vidura.

magicofavalon1
Are you saying that the problem is that you are calling a library from a VI ona PC (which works fine) but when you call the same library from a mobile moduleVI, you get the build error?
Just as you are saying, I call the library (the stubbed library i madefor Win32) from a VI on the PC and it works fine
when i do it from a mobile module VI, it doesn’t even build (always using thestubbed library) because when using the ARM library i get an error thatthe library wasn’t made for Windows, which I already know because i made thelibrary for an ARM processor and already tested it with a C++ program made inVisual Studio.
That’s why I ended making a stub dll but with no luck so far.
magicofavalon1
It may also be that you need to reference the location of the libraryand manually copy it to the LabVIEW mobile device before you build it.
i already have the library in the mobile device, but I’m using in thecall library node the location to the stub dll in my PC. Is it really necessaryto build the application to have the mobile device connected to the PC becausei haven’t had it like the last 100 times i tried to build it? Anyways Thanksfor your help, I’ll try this tomorrow at first hour (at my job), and maybe youcan understand me better with the explanation i gave you right now.

Limitations in Mobile Module

I have ported several large applications from Windows to LabVIEW RT and it was fairly simple. All the changes that had to be done were backwards compatible (i.e. the RT code can run on Windows as well, so you end up with 1 multitarget code) and without any loss of functionality.
I expected to run into a similar situation with the Mobile Module...but for some reason the limitations on the code are much more serious. Is this really necessary? Is VxWorks e.g. so much more flexible than CE 6.0, or is this an artificial limitation to make the RT platform more attractive when competing with SBCs running CE?
Something as basic as file constants (current VI's path e.g.) are not available (but it seems that it could have been; there is another function that returns system paths...so why not make it transparent that you run on a PDA target?), and another very big disappointment was the fact that the Run Method is not supported (I use it all the time for dynamic instantiation).
Limitations that can be fixed with cross-target compatible changes (like the use of pow instead of ** in function nodes e.g.) would not be that bad to handle, but the way the PDA module is now I'm left with two options; either rebuild the application from scratch (hopefully the required minimum functionality can be made) - or go for a Windows Embedded target instead.
MTO

Hi Terry,
What exact error are you getting? Posting the application (if possible) and a screenshot of the error would be helpful.
Adnan Zafar
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Error for LabVIEW PDA Module Version 8.5

Hi all
I am face on with problem when i try to do the LabVIEW PDA Module Version 8.5 Tutorial which is include in labVIew software package.All my lincence status also activated and do install all the accessories that i need.I follow all the steps by tutorial sheet.But i still face on with problems, so now i would like to uninstall my LabVIEW software and reinstall again.The error is as shown in attach file. i want to know is there any problem if i uninstall my software? If anyone can show me why the error is? The technician said even though the error come out, just close and wait for about 5 min.After 5 min already the emulator will be come out.But mine haven't comeout.So please any one can show me?
Thanks a lot
Best Regards
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Hi Stephan
Thanks for giving your time for me. I am a new LabVIEW PDA Module user.And I have to do it because of my final year project.I am student from Nanyang Polytechnic (Singapore). I never use labVIEW software and LabVIEW PDA Module software before.This is my first time. The software that i have is LabVIEW Version 8.5. So as what you say is i need to reinstall my the whole LabVIEW PDA Module and all start again? Then i know that for PDA Module i need to download Virtual PC2007.But what else i still need to install? The Window Mobile 5.0 emulator and the rest softwares is it include in the LabVIEW PDA Module software package? If not, please let me know which software i still have to download? Then i go and check the software status that i have and the lincense status is as shown in attach files.Thanks for giving your time and help me.
With Regards
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How to create a login interface in labview PDA module?

How to create a login interface in labview PDA module? So that it checks with a list of usernames and passwords and allow to go to another VI?
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I've attached a really short example that does something like what you're talking about. It just compares the user's username and password a pre-determined username and password and then "logs the user in" based on that comparison. Like Greycat said, you probably want to store this username and password info in some sort of file on the PDA that's in an encrypted format for both security and flexibility of your application.
I hope this helps,
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How can I install (download) a Labview FPGA code onto Altera FPGA chip using Labview FPGA module?

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so kindly, can any body help me in this?...is there any way to connect labview with Altera FPGA?...please anything would be said 'd be of great benifits
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