Left Outer Joining multiple tables to one source table FAILS with VLD-1511

Hi all,
Is it me, or is OWB unable to handle left outer joining 1 source table to multiple other tables?
I want to load a fact table so I have 1 source table with measures. This table must be outer joined to some dimensions that have their FK in the fact table.
The SQL statement would look like this (and is perfectly valid):
select ...
from input, dim1, dim2
where input.c1 = dim1.c1(+)
and input.c2 = dim2.c2(+);
I put the where clause in the joiner operator and validate, but that gives me message VLD-1511: A table may be outer joined to at most one other table.
Even splitting this up into one outer join per joiner still gives this message.
A search and look around on the forum and on metalink shows there are related issues (like bug 3334035). Seemingly creating a view is the work-around to use.....? (ie downgrading owb to a simple gui tool) }-;
Have other people experienced this problem of not being able to outer join one input table to multiple other tables?
Thanks,
Ed

I have had some feedback from Oracle. It turns out this has to do with 2 issues. Below I have pasted the text that Support gave me:
<---------- START QUOTE ---------->
RESEARCH
=========
Bug 3437036 KEY LOOKUP DOES NOT DETECT ORA-1417 IN VALIDATE/GENERATE STEP
Unpublished Bug 4211684 FORWARD PORT OF BUG 3437036
shows:
Some more development has been completed when this bug is fixed in Paris.
The following are the details:
1. If the join condition contains a full outer join such as
tab1.c (+) = tab2.c (+) and tab2.c (+) = tab3.c
then the new validations implemented for this bug do not apply since
in OWB, full outer join triggers generation of joins in ANSI syntax.
ANSI syntax does not have the original problem the base bug of this
bug reported.
2. If the join condition does not contain any full outer join condition,
then the join is generated in Oracle join syntax, which is subject two
several restrictions. The fix to this bug check two of the restrictions.
3. The first restriction in Oracle syntax is that the outer join operator
"(+)" can only directly be attached to a column name. If you attach it
to an expression, such as the following:
(tab1.c + 1) (+) = tab2.c
Then there will be an ORA-936 error at the time of mapping deployment.
For this case, I have added a validation message VLD-1512 to error out
this situation.
4. The second restriction in Oracle syntax is that a table can only be
outer joined to exactly one other table.
For example, this is an invalid join in Oracle syntax:
tab1.c (+) = tab2.c and tab1.d (+) = tab3.d
because tab1 is left outer joined to tab2 and tab3.
But note that the following is still valid in Oracle syntax:
tab1.c (+) = tab2.c and tab1.d = tab3.d (+)
because tab1 is left outer joined to tab2 and right outer joined to tab3.
So this latter case does not violate the restriction that "same oj" to
more than 1 table is not allowed.
If same oj to more than 1 table is specified in a join condition,
VLD-1511 will be issued, and the map is made invalid.
<---------- END QUOTE ---------->
OWB does a partial validation, ie not all access paths are (can be) checked. A full check is only done by the database itself. So some scenarios (like checking whether multiple tables are outer joined the correct way) are not checked, and in this case are flagged with an error (even though it is actually a correct scenario).
Seemingly this was not flagged with an error in earlier versions of OWB, so beware, OWB behaviour may change when upgrading...
Alternative solutions are (1) using key lookups, (2) using a view with all outer joins in there, (3) using intermediate result tables between the joins.
Hope this info helps some people prevent spending too much time on a false error message,
Ed

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