Lenovo S10-3 Fan Control (Linux) and overheating

Good day to everyone.
Let me describe the situation. My Lenovo S10-3 is always hot (even in idle) and uses internal fan very often. It irritates very much because fan is noisy (service found no problem).
Sensors: acpi-tz ~60C, core ~50C (idle).
But even fan is disabled (connector is pulled out from motherboard) temperature becomes not much higher --- approx 65-70C.
Now, the question: is there any way to override BIOS fan control values? (e.g. 55C="Fan on" to 60C="Fan On")
For the S10 series there is program named "Fan Control", but it doesn't work on S10-3 and this program is for MS Windows only. Can anyone give comprehensive ansver/guide how to control fan speed (or on/off temperature values) using native linux tools or special program? It might be very useful for others who experiences the same problem. Thanks.

The heatsink is not connected to the surface of CPU and GPU and this is why you said that disabling the fan doesn't make any difference in the temperature. There are two pieces of thermal pad on the CPU and GPU.They are actually unusable. Remove them. Put thermal paste on the surface of CPU and GPU and heatsink and then put a piece of copper on CPU and GPU. This will make connection between heatsink and surface of CPU. This will make the fan usefull . Do this at your own risk (There is no risk. But use suitable pieces of copper is very important.) Using google will help you find about this issue

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    Perhaps some users from countries with other languages than German and English can add tags for "fan", "control" and "noise".
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    1. In Windows scroll to computer and right click, select manage.
    2. Go to “Disk Management”
    3. Select the main HDD (notice Lenovo puts a stupid number of partitions on here)
    a. I deleted the D: drive on here, if you do this make sure to copy the drives over to your main C: drive. You will want to run each of the installers and repair the drivers after.
    4. I used the space from the D: drive and pulled a little more creating a 50 GB partition for Ubuntu and my swap file
    a. You can also add more space by right clicking your C drive and selecting shrink
    b. Do not format the partitioned data as this will make identifying it later much easier.
    5. Open a command line
                    a. Swipe from the right of the screen and select search
                    b. Type ‘cmd’
                    c. right click and select ‘run as admin’
    6. For Ubuntu: Type ‘diskpart’ into the command line
                    a. type ‘list disk’
    i. You should see 2-3 disks depending on if you have one or both usb drives in the laptop at the time. I would suggest only doing 1 at a time so you don’t lose track.
                    b. type ‘select disk $’ (Replace the $ with the number of the drive)
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    e. type ‘create partition primary’
    f. type ‘active’
    g. type ‘format  fs=fat32 quick’
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    i. type ‘exit’
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    i. You should see 2-3 disks depending on if you have one or both usb drives in the laptop at the time. I would suggest only doing 1 at a time so you don’t lose track.
                    b. type ‘select disk $’ (Replace the $ with the number of the drive)
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    d. type ‘clean’
    e. type ‘create partition primary size= 3272
    f. type ‘active’
    g. type ‘format  fs=fat32 quick’
    h. type ‘assign’
    i. type ‘exit’
    j. By doing this we can maintain a portion of this drive as the install CD and still have linux install/ liveCD if we need to run it on another machine.
    7. At this point the drive is ready to have the contents of the ISO copied over.
    8. Right click the ISO and select 7-zip then ‘zip to /’ This should unzip the ISO to the location of the ISO into a folder named exactly the same as the ISO.
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                    a. Kali will need some files added for EFI boot. --$--
                                   i. Thanks to: https://forums.kali.org/showthread.php?271-How-to-EFI-install-Kali-Linux
                                   ii. EFI files are located within the wifi fix folder https://www.dropbox.com/s/puxnnoft3gn2b6l/WiFiFix.zip
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    Ubuntu install
    1.     Place USB drive into the laptop and press the “Lenovo boot” button next to the power button
    2.     Select ‘Boot Menu’
    3.     Select ‘EFI USB Device (Name of drive)’ Mine stated Leef Supra
    4.     Select ‘install Ubuntu’
    5.     Go through the Ubuntu install until you get to select the install drive
    6.     Once you get to the install portion it will ask you to select from one of 4 options. Select ‘Manually select partition’
    7.     Select the “Free Space” where we opened up some of the drive
    8.     You will need to create 2 partitions, I usually create the swap partition at the end of the drive
    a.     First I create the swap
                                              i.    Set at the end of the drive
                                             ii.    Set size to 1024 mb
                                            iii.    Set type to ‘swap’
    b.     Second create the ext 4 partition
                                              i.    Set to beginning of drive
                                             ii.    Set to remainder of the space
                                            iii.    Set type to ext4
                                            iv.    Set mount point to /
    9.     Finish the install and boot into Ubuntu
    10.   You will notice that your wireless is ‘disabled by hardware’ This is fine for the time being and we will worry about this after the kali install. If we fix it now for some reason after installing kali we get the error again and would just need to fix it again.
    Kali Linux install
    1.     Place USB drive into the laptop and press the “Lenovo boot” button next to the power button
    2.     Select ‘Boot Menu’
    3.     Select ‘EFI USB Device (Name of drive)’ Mine stated Leef Supra
    4.     From the grub menu select ‘install kali linux’ both graphical and text work. I much prefer text install
    5.     You will get a few errors through the install but that is fine
    6.     The first we see is about network hardware and ‘load missing firmware from removable media?’ – Select ‘no’
    7.     Then select no ethernet card
    8.     It will have you name your machine then it will ask you for the root password
    a.     If you want to just use root *not recommended* place the password here
    b.     If you wish to use a non-root account then leave these blank and it will ask you for a name, username, and password of the new machine *Very Recommended* - this will also add this user to the sudoers file
    9.     It will then ask you to ‘partition disks’
    10.   Select manual
    11.   Now here is where it can get a little confusing so read twice click once
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    13.   Mine shows up under (sdb) – Leef Supra
    a.     It could be sdc, sdd, sde, etc… depending on how many drives you have plugged in.
    14.   You should see one primary drive that is 3gb or so that is formatted as FAT32. – DO NOT TOUCH THIS PARTITION!
    15.   You should see the remainder of this drive as ‘FREE SPACE’ select that
    16.   Create a partition at the end at size 1024mb and swap
    17.   Then create another one for the remainder of the drive and set it to ext4 with mountpoint of /
    18.   Continue through the install after you should see an error warning you that ‘you may not be able to boot’ that is fine, select continue
    19.   Then select from the menu of all the options ‘continue without bootloader’
    20.   It should finish up then reboot on its own.

    First setup/boot/fix grub
    1.     You should  be able to boot up into GRUB2 menu now.
    2.     You may not see kali linux in this menu (make sure you have your towel and don’t panic!)
    3.     Boot into Ubuntu
    4.     Once you log in you should see that you still cannot use wireless due to being locked by hardware
    5.     This is expected
    6.     Let’s fix grub then we will come back to fixing wireless
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    8.     Once you verify that you now have an internet connection run the following from terminal
    a.     ‘sudo add-apt-repository ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer’
    b.     ‘sudo apt-get update’
    c.     ‘sudo apt-get install grub-customizer’
    9.     You can also edit the grub.cfg manually if you know what you are doing… I did not
    10.   Open grub  customizer
    11.   It should auto populate and you should see ‘debian (kali linux)’ somewhere in the list
    12.   It should be mounted to /dev/sdb2 or /dev/sdc2 depending on how many devices you have
    13.   At this point go ahead and save
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    15.   This is where my inexperience got me. I spent 2 of my days so I am including this error: If when you boot into Kali you get an error somewhere that says ‘/bin/sh: can’t access tty: job control turned off’ look above it for an error that looks similar to ‘ALERT! /dev/sdc2 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!!’
    a.     That error is due to the mount point being incorrect in grub, reboot and from within grub highlight the kali boot. Press ‘e’ then towards the bottom you should see ‘root=/dev/sdc2’ change this to ‘root=/dev/sdb2’ again the number doesn’t matter just make sure it stays the same.
    b.     Press F10
    c.     If this boots fine then you will need to go back and fix the grub.cfg or load into Ubuntu and open grub customizer again, it should fix this
    16.   Now you have 3 working OS on the machine with one being on a USB! Congrats!
    17.   You can remove the USB with no worry of screwing up your install, but you will not be able to boot into Kali Linux until you replace it. I would suggest only removing it and replacing it while the machine is powered off, but that’s just me.
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    Now is the time to do what probably ¾ of you came here for. FIX THE DANG WIRELESS. This is a huge problem from Lenovo’s side that I hope they realize how important Linux is and will fix. I won’t hold my breath though.
    Log into Ubuntu : This is well documented in the following forum post on page 3 by user Haohe:
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2215044&page=3
    His has you download quite a large file, mine should be much smaller.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/puxnnoft3gn2b6l/WiFiFix.zip
    1.     Download the attached package with the fix.
    2.     Connect your USB internet device (tether or ethernet)
    3.     Place the packages somewhere easy to access, in this example I will place them under ~/Desktop/WiFiFix
    4.     Type ‘cd ~/Desktop/WiFiFix/’
    5.     Now we need to prep the tools we need.
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    7.     Type ‘sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname –r`’   Note around uname-r they are the ` symbol not the ‘ this is located just above the tab on the same key as ~.
    8.     Type ‘make’
    9.     Type ‘sudo cp /lib/modules/3.13.0-24-generic/kernel/drivers/platform/x86/ideapad-laptop.ko ~/ideapad-laptop.ko.backup’
    10.   Type ‘sudo cp ~/Desktop/WiFiFix/ideapad-laptop.ko /lib/modules/3.13.0-24-generic/kernel/drivers/platform/x86/’
    11.   Type ‘sudo modprobe -r ideapad-laptop’
    12.   Type ‘sudo modprobe ideapad-laptop’
    13.   Type ‘sudo rfkill unblock all’
    14.   Type ‘sudo modprobe -r ideapad-laptop’
    15.   Type ‘sudo mv ~/ideapad-laptop.ko.backup /lib/modules/3.13.0-24-generic/kernel/drivers/platform/x86/ideapad-laptop.ko’
    16.   Next we need to blacklist the ideapad module
    17.   Type ‘sudo echo 'blacklist ideapad-laptop' > /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ideapad.conf’
    a.     The first time I tried this it wouldn’t work. So I did the following
    b.     ‘sudo touch /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ideapad.conf’
    c.     ‘sudo vim /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ideapad.conf’
    d.     Enter     blacklist ideapad-laptop
    e.     Exit and save
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    19.   Boot into kali and see if you have wireless, if you do then you are done. If not we will need to repeat this process with one small little change.
    Kali Wifi Fix
    1.     Copy the sources.list from the package provided
    2.     Replace /etc/apt/sources.list with the included
    3.     Some of the file path changes but the process remains the same from here.
    Congratulations you now have 3 OSes one portable to other machines and working wifi!
    Thank you
    SirGed

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