Leopard Prep: Setting up two boot drives

I actually think I'm going to do a complet system wipe. I've been having enough issues with my system to warrant it. So I'd like to set up a second bootdrive for Leopard. I know some of you guys do this specifically with Logic in mind, so I was hoping someone might walk me through it.

Sorry for kicking in so late. I am in the habit of using CCC, almost religiously. I think you've seen me previously on the forum talk about using CCC on a second partition or drive on your machine, booting up from it, and then doing the apple system patches or plugin updates or what ever, and running like that for a bit to make sure everything is OK. Once I've identified that there are no new anomalies, then I boot into my primary partition and do the same updates the way I did them on the cloned partition.
Further, what I've been doing while testing Leopard is to simply use that second partition or drive and use it to install Leopard. This way I can boot between my 2 operating systems without a hitch, and if Leopard gives me a hard time, I can park it until the next update.
Having that luxury will allow me to install Leopard when I get it Friday, and run all my software with the gold master and see what sticks and what falls and it will allow me to decide if I want to use it full time or not. I suspect at this point that because of the Apogee drivers I won't be using Leopard full time. In fact the Apogee site now officially says to not use any of their drivers with OS 10.5... yeah no kidding it kernel panics the box. So until Apogee gets their driver out, and I hope that's soon along with Leopard itself, I am going to keep both Tiger and Leopard running, and when I want to do my music, I just boot up in Tiger, when I want to do everything else I work in Leopard.
Another idea I am toying with is that once I get Leopard going with everything I need, I may just rebuild the Tiger drive and make it a music only drive. Meaning that boot drive will only have Logic and its needed components. Everything else will be on Leopard. I would probably split that drive in 2 partitions so I can still do my upgrade tests. Is it time consuming? yes to setup it seems time consuming, but the end result is that you will always have a running system that is always clean and free of any issues, and it will allow you to quickly test the updates so that you can take advantage of what ever changes apple and 3rd parties are making... or decide that they fumbled the ball and you don't want to make a change.
Living in fear and sticking on an old OS version is simply not a good thing.
Here is an interesting article on Leopard security if you're interested:
http://db.tidbits.com/article/9251
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I have three boot drives on my Power Mac G5. One is Tiger on the internal factory installed drive. The second one is Tiger on an external SATA drive. The third is Leopard on the second external SATA drive.
When I boot the Power Mac, by default, I want to always boot Tiger on the external SATA drive, but when I boot the Power Mac the system seems to want to always default to the Leopard drive.
I've booted using the startup disk choice in System Preferences, but is that the correct way to set the default boot drive or is there some other way to set the boot drive preference?
My only other idea is to just reformat the Leopard drive, but I would still like to have a bootable Leopard just in case I want to use that.
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The Startup Disk Pref Pane should make it permanent!?
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Can't tell by your signature but it looks like you have a Mac-BOOK-Pro and this is the Mac_Pro___ forums so the answers vary accordingly.
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