Lightroom Camera Profile quick question

Think I know where the problem lies. Pentax K100D recognised in Library metadata but not in Develop ... profile.
Can someone please check their (Windows) computer for me?
Program Data/Adobe/CameraRaw/CameraProfiles/Camera
I don't have my camera appearing in that folder even though Adobe's online doc for supported models includes it.
I've upgraded from LR 2 to 3 and then to 3.3 Suspecting that it hasn't upgraded properly. If someone else has the K100D sitting merrily in their list, I guess it's uninstall and try again.
Many thanks

I don't have the K100D either. Not all cameras have camera-matching profiles.

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Loving the Camera Profiles for Sony cameras in Lightroom and Adobe Camera Raw. Would it be possible to add them for Sony A900, A850 and A700 in the next Lightroom and ACR updates? Thank you!

Brian Smith Photo wrote:
Many Sony users have asked why Lightroom and Adobe Camera Raw doesn't read Sony Creative Styles embedded in RAW - thwse camera profiles offer a very nice response to that question.
ACR and LR don't support this capability with any camera model, and it's not likely to be added in the future. What Adobe has done is provide "emulations" of the "Camera" picture styles for some camera makes and models, which can be manually selected and applied. You can do a search here and at Photoshop Family Customer Community for posts on camera picture styles and add your vote, or even add a new request.
The OEM's picture style "recipes" are designed to work specifically with the their raw converter and not ACR/LR. The Adobe Standard camera profile and ACR/LR Develop default settings are designed to make camera raw images look nearly identical regardless of camera make or model (i.e. "Standard").
Brian Smith Photo wrote:
Those are someone's custom profiles which are fine but they are not the Sony Creative Style profiles. The screenshot above shows Lightroom profiles for A7-series cameras.
What I read at that site:
I've photographed, under the direct sunlight, a 24 color GretagMacbeth / X-Rite table, then, after converting the RAW to DNG, I've created the standard color profiles with Adobe DNG Profile Editor. Starting from the standard profile and using as reference the "non standard" Nikon, Canon and Leica's profiles, I've created the creative profiles.
Based on the procedure he used these camera profiles may as good or better than Adobe's. They are both emulations created using the Adobe DNG Profile Editor. I can also tell you that neither profile (Adobe's or his) will perfectly "match" the picture style of an in-camera JPEG or raw file processed with the OEMs raw converter. It may be close....but no cigar! I use a ColorChecker PassPort created profile with all my Canon DSLRs, which I find is a better "starting point" than Adobe Standard–YMMV. I also rarely if ever use the "Camera" profiles, which usually require using different Basic panel settings. The one exception is 'Camera Faithful,' which I sometimes use for revealing fine tonal and color gradations (i.e. flowers).

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I downloaded Camera Raw 4.5 Plug in, which is needed for the beta Camera Profiles installation. CR 4.5 is definitely in the right place and working fine. According to Adobe FAQ, beta Camera Profiles belong in the Adobe folder in Camera Raw. I copy and quote here:
" Where are the new profiles installed on my computer?
On Mac OS X:
/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/CameraProfiles "
I do not have CR 4.5 in my Adobe folder, only in Plug ins. I do still have CR v 4 in the Adobe folder, but not v 4.5.
My question is... does the beta version of Camera Profiles automatically put Camera Raw 4.5 in the Adobe folder, or do I need to do something to get CR 4.5 there in order to install the beta Camera Profiles ? I've already messed up on the download/installation of Camera Profiles by moving it into CR 4.5 the plug-in folder. When I realized my error, I have trashed that.
Can someone give me some input here ? I'm clueless. This is not a BIG DEAL, as I'm getting along fine with CS3. I;m just curious to know how CR 4.5 gets in the Adobe folder>
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carolyn

O.K. I understand about v 4.6. At the time I installed ACR 4.5, it was the version Adobe said was required. What has happened since then I was unaware of.
Where I have the ACR 4.5 plug in installed is EXACTLY the path you describe, not the HOME folder, but in my HD. I can show a screen shot but don't think that works in this space. To follow my ACR4.5 plug in path, which is the same as you say above, here it is:
HD/Library/App. Support / Adobe /Plugins/CS3/ File Formats / Camera Raw Plugin
When I am in Bridge, the window shows Camera Raw v 4.5 at the top. So I must have it in the right place. I think you misread my original post as the path I copied there was copied from the Ådobe FAQ! link for the Camera Profiles, NOT for ACR. Sorry if I was unclear.
I totally understand that the beta Camera Profiles and ACR do NOT reside in the same folder. ACR is in Plug ins, and the beta Camera Profiles go in the Adobe folder under Camera Raw. But I do NOT have ACR 4.5 in the Adobe folder so that I can put the profiles there. So what am I supposed to do ??

Setting up camera profiles

I may be confused, but I seem to remember when I was using LR3 Beta, I had a profile set up for my particular camera. Now I am using the release version and I can't seem to find how to set up a particular model or brand in the camera profile.

Lightroom camera profiles don't display model or brand information in their name. That being said, Lightroom will only allow you to select camera profiles designed for a specific model and brand. These profiles have names similar to those used by the camera vendor to describe their looks. For example, Canon users have profiles for Camera Faithful, Camera Neutral, Camera Portrait, Camera Landscape and Camera Standard in addition to Adobe Standard. Nikon users have slightly profiles, some of which include the D2X designation)

SOLUTION: Beta Camera Profiles Cause Lightroom to Hang

I finally found what was killing my LR2 install. I was moving and processing images when the CPU went to 50% (one core at 100%).
I ran a file monitor program and discovered LR2 was scanning *all* the camera profiles for each image selected. This is pointless since I had them all set to ACR 4.4!!!
So if you're experiencing hangs, go visit the following directory and delete the profiles:
c:\documents and settings\All Users\Application Data\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles

Thomas, I have a few questions, if you don't mind:
"When you say scan every profile, do you mean all 300+ profiles"
Does that mean that the Camera Profile Calibration Beta packages every profile available to Adobe in the download? Thinking about it after reading this post, I only remember choosing the OS being used.
"or just the 10 or so profiles for the camera model you select?"
I didn't think that we selected the camera model, instead thought Lightroom determined the camera used (presumably from the camera model information listed in the photographs metadata) and made the profiles for that camera available in the drop-down list.
Will Adobe consider making camera profiles for each camera model available as a separate file, then let the user choose which camera profile(s) they need and download into a "profile folder." If so, it would be nice if the user could return to the download page and choose additional profiles when needed (such as when one buys the latest/greatest camera) and add them to the profile folder without over-riding or or removing profiles previously downloaded.
Without going OT about which camera systems people use and why, I would think that everyone would agree that there isn't any need to load all 300+ profiles when you only need the profiles for the camera(s) one uses. This is especially true if it causes the program to run slower than it would without all those profiles one wouldn't use anyway.
One other thing about the profile presets, if you don't mind - will Adobe also consider adding access to the camera profiles in the the Library Module's Quick Develop area near the Saved Presets option. It would be nice if you could access the profiles without switching over to the Develop Module.
Thanks, in advance, for any response provided.
Regards, JML

Camera Profile in Lightroom (X20)

Hi, I'm just beginning with a fujifilm X20 camera and .raf files.
I'm trying Lightroom 5.0 and still not sure if I should use Photoshop instead, here is why :
I tryied to found my camera profile, and it's not in lightroom, found X100 not X20.
I tried by the adobe lens profile downloader, I found 5 profiles for the X10, none for the X10.
Googling about that, I found out that the X20 is supported by Camera Raw, but I can't see how I could get that without Photoshop.
So my question is : what should I do :
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You may be confusing two concepts.
RAW file support for you camera means that LR will open the RAW file. LR has the Adobe ACR (Adobe Camera Raw) system built in and you don't see it. Photoshop uses the same ACR system, but you do see it as a separate function.
There are two ways you can see if your camera is supported by Lightroom or ACR. One is to find the list of cameras. The other is to see if it works.
The second concept is lens profiles. For fixed lens cameras like yours, the lens corrections are built into the data in the RAW file the camera makes. Unless you have a DSLR with multiple lenses, you can leave the "Lens Corrections" disabled or set to "Default".

Adobe Camera Profiles in Lightroom 2.4

Hello,
I upgraded to Lightroom 2.4, and installed Camera Raw 5.4. The Sony A330 is on the support list now. However, I cannot see the profiles under camera calibration in the develop tab. What gives with this? I shut down and reopened, but no good. I didn't reboot. Anyone know why I cannot see my profiles after I installed the update? I saw a video on Youtube, so I sort of know what to look for. I'm not seeing anything except the same Adobe Standard. I read google a bit for quick anwsers, but I am losing too much time now.
Thanks in Advance,
BBRoberts

I'm not sure what you are saying exactly. Adobe Camera RAW 5.4 support Sony A330. I saw a video on Youtube which show the profiles once installed that come up under Camera Calibration with the develop tab. LR 2.4, I believe works with Adobe Camera Profiles 5.4
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=106&platform=Windows
What I saw in the video, I cannot do, which is bring up those profiles in order to improve RAW photos to some degree as they were in the camera. I liked the demo and the improvements on color. I'm not saying I understand this very well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC6-1m3Hkcc
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BBR

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I recently created a camera profile for a Nikon D200, using an X-Rite Colorchecker chart photo and the Chart feature in the DNG Editor. I exported the camera profile. When I go to the Calibration tab in ACR 5.5, the new profile does not appear in the drop down list with the other camera profiles. However, when I go to the Develop module in Lightroom 2.5, the new profile does appear in the drop down list there.
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A side note - I did some experimentation with camera profile names. I added "XX" to the end of the Nikon Vivid profile name (not the extension), and then that profile no longer appears in the ACR list of profiles. I removed the extra letters and then the profile reappears in the ACR list of profiles. Seemed odd behavior to me. I also noticed that the profile I created with DNG Editor is noticeably smaller than the others provided by Adobe (28K compared to 110k).
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Your reminder about both Photoshop (main) and Bridge needing to be shut down for changes to take effect reminded me that I had Bridge set to "auto-start at log-in". So I checked and it was still running (shown with the other hidden icons). When I "shut it down" from the UI I had thought it was fully terminated. So I completely shut Bridge down, restarted, and the new profile now appears.
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ACR 5.7 can see camera profiles in Bridge CS4 but not in Lightroom 2.7

When utilizing ACR5.7 through Bridge CS4 - the cameral profiles are easily applied for my .NEF files (Nikon D300) but when I am in Lightroom 2.7 the camera profiles are not available unless I convert the nef to DNG. I have tried to search the web and these forums but I am unable to locate the answer to my problem:
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For those who might be reading this and having "odd" problems .. my solution was to delete my preferences file.
http://lightroomers.com/replacing-the-lightroom-preference-file/745/
This solved several odd issues I was seeing in my lightroom including the camera profiles..

How does Adobe make their camera profiles for ACR and Lightroom?

I'm not interested in the proprietary algorithms , but I am curious as to the photographic mechanics and hardware tools used by Adobe to make the various camera profiles as they differ markedly from the ones I make using the DNG Profile Editor.
My methodology is to set an X-Rite 24 patch Color Checker target, light it evenly with electromic flash (with 0.1 stops from center to corners as mesured with a Sekonic L-758r Meter) and make a series of exposures bracketed in third of a stop increments around the meter reading in case the camera sensitivity differs from the meter's.
I then process the raw files and convert them to the DNG format, select the best exposure and run it through the DNG Profile editor. My results differ from Adobe's generic profiles for that camera enough that that I don't thin kthe difference can be credited to the difference between a generic profile a specific camera.
How do the different tools work in the DNG converter? Starting with the Options for "Base Tone Curve"? Is there a document a moderately color geeky person can understand that explains this?
I thin kthe DNG Profile editor is a great and under usedtool. I wish more people knew about it.
Thank you for your time and consideration.

Someone who only eats sausage may not want to know how it's made. Someone who creates things with food, a chef, a cook, or otherwise is thinking about a career in the food industry, might have a interest in such things. Someone who is thinking of making sausage will want to know all the details. Someone who is concerned with the public safety might want to know how sasauge is made.
It would be nice for a sausage maker to give some hints about the process as compared to what each of us can do with the DNG Profile Editor and to the original poster's question, why are our profiles different from Adobe's?
It is my experience that when I create a profile with the DNG Profile Editor, and then compute the color error for each of the 24 color patches of a CC24, using a program like Imatest, some colors are quite a bit off and some are very close, and the colors that are off, are not the same ones that are off when I compute the color error using one of the Adobe Standard or Camera Standard profiles.
Is Adobe using more detailed and sophisticated color targets with hundreds of different colors, or if not, do the tools provide more feedback and allow more manual manipulation of the profile and so the differences are due to their judgement about which colors to make "right" and which ones to let have more error associated with them, that can be manipulated by hand instead of merely letting the DNG Profile Editor apparently distribute the error amongst the various colors with some sort of even-handed calculation.
For example it is easy to imagine that someone tweaking a profile by hand with a live readout of the error of each of the colors plus an overall composite error, might put more emphasis on skin tones being right if they have a background in people photography, or more emphasis on bright colors being right if their experience is in textiles and the current trend in the US is bright colors--and a different emphasis when the trend is muted colors so there is cultrual bias and life-experience coloring a "standard" profile.
In other words, how much of the difference between Adobe and our profiles are due to Adobe having different or better science, and how much of it is due to Adobe have different or better "artists" who decide what colors to make correct compared to others.

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I'm running Windows 7 32bit.
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Hello,
I just installed Adobe DNG Converter 9.0 and converted some Nikon D7200 fles to DNG for import into Lightroom 5.7. This works fine except for the Camera Specific profiles not showing up. Only Adobe Standard shows up.
When I open the same DNG file in Adobe Camera Raw in Photoshop CS6, [it] properly shows all the camera specific profiles for the D7200. What am I doing wrong?
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gonzalu, the reason is because the profiles are installed separately for Camera Raw vs Lightroom.
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C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles\Camera\Nikon D7200
and copy the contents of that folder to here:
C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles
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Hello there!
First let me start by mentioning that im running Lightroom on a Mac OS X (10.8.2).
I was running v4.2 for a while until the v4.3 update came out about a week and a half ago.
I updated to v4.3 and everything was working fine until I noticed something today.
Im having problems with Camera Profiles. I do run the latest 2012 process.
The problem to be exact is when I open catalogs that were made with v4.2
I scroll down to Camera Profiles and here is what i get.
I have presets that automatically correspond to the "film" profiles below.
But ever since the upgrade it automatically goes to ACR 4.6 instead of the "film" profile.
I know for a fact that with v4.2 I only had these profiles:
Adobe Standard
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Camera Standard
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with the addition of the "film" profiles.
After updating, thats what I get when opening v4.2 catalogs.
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When i create a v4.3 catalog, all of those Camera Profiles disappear.
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Adobe Standard
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Camera Standard
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When I looked at the Camera Profile folder, the ones I added are there but doesnt show up in Lightroom.
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I would suggest a two-step process:
1) The problem could be due to a corrupt Preference File. This file can go "funny" and is then responsible for all kinds of strange behavior of Lr. The remedy is replacing the Preference File.
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Ok I got it,
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