Linking 2 WebHelp Projects
I have 2 separate (not merged) WebHelp Pro projects that I
need to link together. I'm using customized toolbar buttons for
each project; a button on Project A calls project B and vice versa.
I need the buttons to load the called help system in the parent
window, not in a new popup, or within the topic frame.
I've tried the following button configurations from the Skin
Editor:
Using the Link command and Browsing to the other parent
topic. This actually reloads WRONG parent toolbar (the one that's
already open) within the topic pane.
I've also noticed that making a simple hyperlink to
http://www.adobe.com opens the
Adobe website in topic frame; I would need mine to load as the
parent.
Using the onClick javascript:
parent.frames[1].location='C:\HelpProjectB\indexB.html'
This gives a "The page cannot be displayed." error. The
toolbar is still there for some reason.
*this script borrowed from Rick Stone's Skinny on Skins.
Using the onClick javascript:
parent.location='C:\HelpProjectB\indexB.html'
This gives a "The page cannot be displayed." error.
*this script borrowed from Rick Stone's Skinny on Skins.
The projects still on my hard-drive for testing, and I
suppose trying to call a file in this manner may be the problem.
I'm fairly proficient at RoboHelp, but I am scripting neophyte. I
am using RH6.
Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks in
advance!
Nevermind! I figured it out.
The Skin Editor's Link option is for linking a single file
(PDF, etc). The file will displayed in the topic frame and the file
will be added to the main directory.
The parent.location javascript is what I needed, but I had to
change the slashes from \ to / .
I know there is some reason for this, I can't remember what
it is though.
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