Logic on Macbook Pro

I've just ordered a 2.2ghz MacBook Pro (4GB, 200GB 7200rpm), mostly for Logic use. I'll be using it out live using Mainstage, so reliability/smoothness is very important.
So, I'd like to keep at least part of the machine 100% dedicated to music production, to give myself the best chance of a fully reliable, clean and stable system.
BUT, as it is such a powerful machine (and much more powerful than my main machine: a PowerMac G5 with 1GB RAM), I would like to use it for other things too - iMovie for importing/editing video, occasional internet use, and Windows XP/bootcamp, mainly for games like Bioshock/Halflife etc.
So, my question is: could I split my internal HD into 2 partitions, each with its own separate Leopard system - one for just Mainstage with all relevant samples/sounds/settings etc. (inc. no wireless use or anything at all that's not related to Mainstage) that I'll use live, and the second partition for everything else (inc. Logic itself, as the reliability isn't so important back at home/studio).
Then, when I'm using Mainstage live, I'll start up from the "Mainstage" system on my internal HD, and when I'm doing all the other stuff, I'll start up from the other (larger) partition.
Would this be effective in keeping the music system clean, and keeping out all the crap etc. that will come with internet use/Windows on the other partition?

Well, in my opinion, partioning into two different Mac systems is pointless. Providing you are not installing hundreds of system extensions and oddball utilities, OSX is plenty happy running applications reliably.
You should see what I do with my humble Powerbook, which in addition to music does everthing from programming/web development/graphics/motion graphics/video editing and a lot more besides, as well as general use.
A dual-partition system is really pretty pointless, unless you absolutely want a clean system uninterfered with - but unles you're doing something silly, there isn't any real reason this system should run better than the other system. You're just needlessly duplicating a lot of files and taking up valuable internal drive space on a laptop fixed drive.
So, personally, I wouldn't bother.
Note - the windows stuff won't interfere with your OSX stuff at all.

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