Logical System in IDOC-XI scenario

Hi,
I need help to understand few things in IDOC-XI scenario, could any one help me in this regard.
we use Adapter specific identifiers to map services, we have following type of identifiers 1) Sys.ID & Client No. 2) Logical System.
my questions are
a) Are we use Logical System in B to B scenario ?
b) Are we use LS in reference to the SAP system or Non SAP system ? if a non SAP system....how a non SAP system send an IDOC and why a non SAP system receive an IDOC ( conversion is possible in XI ) ?
Thanks and Regards
Mahesh.

Hay Kumar,
Logical systems can also be used for SAp sytems wich are not installed yet as a virtuall placeholder.
a) yes. if on of your business is a non sap system or a propritery system that you developed yuo'll ue LS.
b) non SAP system can send and recieve IDOCs. so it's possiable to get an IDOC from a system and turn it into an RFC for SAP or get an IDOC from an SAP system and then turn it into something else for another system.
Have a Good One,
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