Lost messages on iPad 2 when creating new Apple ID on new iPhone and changed it on the iPad

We have got a new iPhone5, and when setting it up the first time, a new Apple ID was typed in, unaware the problemes it would cause.
We also changed the Apple ID on our iPad2, and lost all historic messages at iMessages.
Is it possible to have it restored without a backup?
We have tried to change back to the old Apple ID, but still have not been able to restore the messages.

To use iCloud your iPhones and your Macs should all be signed into the same account, what are you trying to achieve.?

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