MAC mail bouncing

Ever since the MAC mail went down 3 weeks ago, I have experienced problems:
A lot of incoming mail is bouncing.
And tonight, one of my accounts is having trouble sending mail. I keep getting the pop up window that says the server timed out. After 4 or 5 tries, it will finally send.
What is going on with MAC mail?

Hi, and a warm welcome to the forums!
I don't have .mac, nor would I, but several people have had problems recently, actually on and off for years, so it may pass, sometimes it's just a regeon or two having problems.
Also, are youaware they are switcing over to .me and cancelling .mac? That eems to be causing some problems now and then also.

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Mac Mail "bounce" feature does NOT work

Noticed that the "bounce" mail feature of Mac mail will not work. Did a search and found that it isn't working anymore for anyone. Also found several posts here on Apple Discussions, that "bounce mail" is not working, and all of the questions asking why it isn't working, are archived and no answers are allowed. The bounce mail feature was a great tool to reject and send back an email from someone that you didn't want email from. That unwanted sender would get the message that it was an invalid email address, and problem solved. We should absolutely have the right to reject an email from an unwanted sender by blocking reception from their email address. It is not acceptable that we should have to receive emails from a specific sender we are trying to block. Spam coming from faked addresses is bad enough, but when you know a specific unwanted sender's address, we need to be able to bounce and reject their emails! Fixing the Mac Mail bounce feature should be a high priority.

thomjw wrote:
Making a rule to simply move emails from an unwanted sender (with a real email address) to the trash, is no solution at all. The whole point is to Reject that person's email by bouncing it back to them, with the intention of showing them they have NOT reached a valid email address. The whole point is to STOP their behavior, not accept it. Your suggestion, that I have to allow the unwanted email to come in, for me to have to deal with it, trashing it or otherwise, sounds like the attitude of the spammers.
Let's not confuse the point here, Apple put the "bounce mail" feature in Mac mail for a reason, and I just want it to work again.
Bouncing email is not unique to Apple's Mail. There is a RFC specifying how bouncing should be handled. Thomas already explained why bouncing email is not a good idea. Here is the reason quoted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nondeliveryreport.
"Today, however, most email is spam, which usually utilizes forged Return-Paths. It is then often impossible for the MTA to inform the originator, and sending a bounce to the forged Return-Path would hit an innocent third party. In addition, there are specific reasons why it is preferable to silently drop a message rather than reject it (let alone bounce it):
* Heuristically filtered spam. Spam filters are not perfect. Rejecting spam based on content filtering implies giving to spammers a test environment where they can try several alternatives until they find a content that passes the filter.
* Viruses and worms. Most times these are sent automatically from an infected machine. Since a bounce may contain a copy of the worm itself, it may contribute to its diffusion."
So using bounce is not a good idea, IMHO.

Mac Mail Bouncing for EPrint

Hi,
Mail from my @mac.com account is always bounced. Mail from Gmail or personal domain works. I'm using Mac Mail for all services.
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3)
This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
[email protected]
   SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data:
   host email-lb-cpg.austin.hp.com [15.217.96.213]:
   550 5.7.1 Command rejected
------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------
Return-path: <[email protected]>
Received: from [74.85.18.250] (helo=[10.10.1.177])
by xxxx.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128)
(Exim 4.69)
(envelope-from <[email protected]>)
id 1QyWW7-00068t-4L
for [email protected]; Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:10:47 -0500
From: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_FD35DA65-81A3-4337-819F-ADD8A017D14D"
Subject:
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:11:53 -0700
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3)

Hi, and a warm welcome to the forums!
I don't have .mac, nor would I, but several people have had problems recently, actually on and off for years, so it may pass, sometimes it's just a regeon or two having problems.
Also, are youaware they are switcing over to .me and cancelling .mac? That eems to be causing some problems now and then also.

Mac mail bounce back when forwarded

Help! I use mac mail on my ibook to get mail from my go daddy server. Recently I cannot forward mail to one of my 3 accounts. when I try I get this message:
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at p3plsmtpa01-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
<[email protected]>:
Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)
Go Daddy says it's a problem with mac mail. I can forward mail to this account ([email protected]) when I use their mail page.
I'm fairly computer illiterate and would appreciate any help offered.
thanks

thomjw wrote:
Making a rule to simply move emails from an unwanted sender (with a real email address) to the trash, is no solution at all. The whole point is to Reject that person's email by bouncing it back to them, with the intention of showing them they have NOT reached a valid email address. The whole point is to STOP their behavior, not accept it. Your suggestion, that I have to allow the unwanted email to come in, for me to have to deal with it, trashing it or otherwise, sounds like the attitude of the spammers.
Let's not confuse the point here, Apple put the "bounce mail" feature in Mac mail for a reason, and I just want it to work again.
Bouncing email is not unique to Apple's Mail. There is a RFC specifying how bouncing should be handled. Thomas already explained why bouncing email is not a good idea. Here is the reason quoted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nondeliveryreport.
"Today, however, most email is spam, which usually utilizes forged Return-Paths. It is then often impossible for the MTA to inform the originator, and sending a bounce to the forged Return-Path would hit an innocent third party. In addition, there are specific reasons why it is preferable to silently drop a message rather than reject it (let alone bounce it):
* Heuristically filtered spam. Spam filters are not perfect. Rejecting spam based on content filtering implies giving to spammers a test environment where they can try several alternatives until they find a content that passes the filter.
* Viruses and worms. Most times these are sent automatically from an infected machine. Since a bounce may contain a copy of the worm itself, it may contribute to its diffusion."
So using bounce is not a good idea, IMHO.

Incoming MAC Mail Bouncing

Half of my incoming emails are bouncing.
When I send an email through my MAC account to his MAC account, it bounces back at me.
I've had MAC mail for 3 years and have been experiencing this since May.
What is going on?

A 452 error typically means:
"SMTP Error 452 : The ISP server’s disk system has run
out of storage space, so the action had to be cancelled.
Unless you are with an ISP which is so slack that they
have not implemented Disk Full Alerts, this error usually
indicates that your ISP’s mail server is overloaded from too
many messages. This can happen even to the best ISPs
when, for example, there have been problems and none of
the ISP’s customers could send mail; as soon as the
problems are fixed there is almost always a situation where
thousands of users and organizations are trying to send
mail all at the same time, and those numbers can
occasionally result in the ISP’s mail servers’ hard disks
temporarily filling up, with SMTP Error 452 being the result.
The next attempt to send by your server may prove
successful."
So if this continues, first check the status of .Mac or MobileMe on the Apple web site, and if there's no problem listed, or there's no resolution listed for this recent problem, call them and ask about it and when it's going to be resolved or how they can resolve it immediately.
Mulder

Mail Bouncing everything...

I am recently finding that ALL of my messages that I receive are bouncing back to the sender. I have turned off all rules and can not find any obvious reasons as to what would cause this.
Also, when I send a note to myself from my iPhone (from the note app), it sends it again and again, last time was like 120 times!!!
Any thoughts on where to start?

Andrew Lamont wrote:
What tipped you off that your messages are bouncing? Who is your email service provider? Is Mac Mail bouncing them, or are the senders receiving bounces messages? If the latter, the bounced messages will give you the reason.
-getting e-mail failure notices was the first sign... ie: when my system or .mac bounced then I got a returned e-mail from whatever company my system replied to automatically. So if I got a message from Tiger Direct for instance about some deal going on, right after it was a message saying that I had sent an e-mail to an incorrect address (from Tiger Direct), or I would get a failed sent message from a server.
-this issue is on my .mac address, although it has also happened with gmail. To me that says it is Mail based. Although I know gmail will CC the sender, so maybe that was unrelated... not sure.
-who or what is bouncing them is unclear. It seems that some where there is bounce... though it is actually a reply, as I still get the message.

Bouncing .mac mail off webmail

I'm using a company email address (@pillensfarm.com) as my main email but its linked to my .mac mail via a webmail service.
I've made no changes to my account and now mac mail is suddenly not being forwarded from the webmail service.
I'm receiving my mac mail when it's sent to @mac.com but when it's sent to @pillensfarm.com.
Any ideas?
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Do you want to access your .Mac account with an email client such as Outlook Express on this PC?
You can always access your .Mac account via webmail access using a browser instead of setting up and accessing the account with an email client such as Outlook Express.
If you want to access your .Mac account with an email client such as Outlook Express on this PC, select IMAP as the account type when creating the account.
Under User Information, enter your full name in the Name Field or whatever name you want to appear next to the email address when sending a message with the account.
Email Address: Self explanatory - enter your .Mac account email address.
Account Name: The portion of your .Mac account email address in front of the @ sign only.
Account Password: You should know.
Incoming Mail Server: mail.mac.com
Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server: smtp.mac.com
Under Outgoing Mail Server select, "My server requires authentication".
For Settings select, "Use same settings as my incoming mail server".
Under the Advanced tab for the account preferences under Server Port Numbers for the Outgoing mail (SMTP), enter 587 in place of 25 in the space provided.

I have an iMac, and have a Verizon DSL account. Recently, my Mac Mail keeps requesting the passwords on my account every few minutes, and will not allow me to send messages using Mac Mail. I cannot edit the outgoing server; how can I send emails?

I have an iMac, and have a Verizon DSL account (3 email addresses). Recently, my Mac Mail keeps requesting the passwords on my accounts every few minutes, and will not allow me to send messages using Mac Mail (the message says that the outgoing server was rejected. I cannot edit the outgoing server, and the keychain will not save my passwords (the ports are valid). How can I change the outgoing server to send emails, and how can I avoid having Mail request my passwords every 2 minutes? Verizon, as usual, will not provide support to iMacs.

Is there an email saved in your drafts or outbox folder? I suspect that Mail is continually trying to send it, and each time Google is rejecting the email message.
You can open the message and then delete it from your Outbox folder. Then try removing all @gmail email addresses from it and seeing whether you can send to the other folks. I suspect that will work.
With email, if an SMTP server *can* verify email addresses, sometimes it will and it will refuse to send messages. If a message has to be relayed across servers, no verification is done, and you'll get a bounce if an email address is bad.

Mail bounce

Used to be able to bounce mail. Has that feature been disabled in Mac Mail. I am running v 5.1.

Look at the discussions listed to the right, in "More like this", for all kinds of talk on this subject.

Having trouble getting mac mail thru a 3rd party domiane

I have had trouble sending emails to and receiving e mails from a third party system that handles my mail in my marketing business. I have no trouble with my yahoo email, and gmail works great but somehow mac mail doesnt get thru to or from. As well when I put a url in an email using mac the email gets lost in cyber space. Any thoughts?
I am thinking that the servers processing the mac email are stopping mac mail as well as mac mail with a url attached.

Have you verified your Account Preferences with this third-party? What Outgoing Mail Server are you using when you try to send email through that domain? It's possible the third-party is blocking all mail from that domain, and won't let any outgoing mail to you through their servers, too. You'd need to call them to find out for certain.
If you call them, verify with them that you have all the proper settings in the preferences for that account in Mail, then try sending a test message to them while you're on the phone and see if they get it. If not, and it doesn't bounce back to you, it's probably something on their end.
Hope this helps,
Mulder

MAC Mail - Sends Mail but mail never arrives at destination

Hi,
I have Leopard installed and am using MAC Mail for email. I connect to Virgin email servers for mail. Mostly this works fine, however I have found that sometimes I send email to contacts and it never arrives and never bounces back. I think it only happens when I click 'Reply' on emails. The addresses are correct and I never get a bounce back. Anyone had this problem?

Hmm…I see two problems here: one is that your profile says you're running 10.4.10; if that's true, then you should update to 10.4.11 immediately, and you're in the wrong forum. If that's not the case, you need to update your profile so it accurately reflects the specific version of OS X you're running. And FYI: there is no MAC Mail; it's Mac. MAC is an acronym for something completely different.
As for your problem, as long as the mail is sent, what happens to it after that is out of your control. It's possible that Virgin is experiencing problems with their mail servers to that some of these emails are deleted before they ever reach their destination, and it's also possible that the recipients' ISP is experiencing that kind of problem, but it would be rare. It's more likely that something in the subject or the body of the email you're sending is being flagged as spam and that the recipient or their ISP puts them into a Spam type folder or just deletes them before they ever reach the recipient. Since I don't know what kind of emails you send or to whom, I can't be sure, but I'd ask my recipients about this first, then my ISP.
Mulder

Optonline does not receive my Mac Mail

I use Mac Mail for various email addresses (comcast, gmail, mac/me) and I usually have no problem sending mail.
I have had a problem not getting a person using Optimum (Optonline.com) to receive any of my emails. It just does not get to the person (he's in his 80s, so I can't just say "get a gmail account") I receive mail from him just fine, but if I reply or start a fresh email, it just goes into outerspace, with no indication that it gets bounced, returned, or anything.
I did have success by using Moble Me WEB interface rather than my SOFTWARE Mail interface. Which leads me to believe it is related to Optonline not liking something that Mail is doing to the email???
This is a client, so its kinda embarrassing to keep wondering if they got my email etc.
Thanks, Dennis

Thanks Bob and Ernie
I have his address correct, because the problem exists even if I REPLY to his mail. Nothign gets there.
BUT when I tried the Web-based version of .Mac/Mobile Me it went thru. The only difference was that the failed transmission came from the SOFTWARE based "Mail" program that is part of the Snow Leopard, which I used happily for 8 years. I wonder if there is some kind of formatting/preference that Mail interjects that Optonline thinks is evil? I have never knowingly, had this problem with any other recipient.

Mac Mail Alias

Hi all. I've just switched over from PC to Mac and am getting there, but still not quite there.
I've set up Mac Mail to work with my Hotmail account - ***@hotmail.com and it works great. No problems there. I'm now trying to set up an alias for ***@Rockfax.com. The Rockfax servers bounce any emails sent to ***@hotmail.com to my ***@hotmail.com account. This currently works fine with Mac Mail, no problems there.
However I can't currently send emails from ***@Rockfax.com. In a perfect world I'd get all the emails sent to both accounts to arrive in one Inbox where I can sort them (as is currently happening) but when I sent mail I'd get an option to either send it from ***@Rockfax.com or ***@hotmail.com.
Is that possible using Mac mail? I've tried following the apple alias help page and have gone into - Mail - Preferences - Email address and added in the line '***@hotmail.com, ***@Rockfax.com' . This gives me the option when sending mail to use '***@hotmail.com' - which is exactly what I'm after. However when the person recieves the mail it still says it has been sent from '***@hotmail.com.
Any help would greatly be appreciated. I don't mind setting up a gmail or other equivalent email system. I just want it to appear as though I'm sending emails from ***@Rockfax.com
Cheers!
James
<Email Edited by Host>

I set up an "other" account on my phone, as you can't change settings in the .Mac type of account.
Go into your iPhone's Settings -> Mail -> Add Account -> Other, then used the following settings:
IMAP Account Information
Name: Myname
Address: [email protected]
Description: [email protected]
Incoming Mail Server
Host Name: mail.mac.com
User Name: [email protected]
Password: mydotmacpassword
Outgoing Mail Server
Host Name: smtp.mac.com
User Name: mymacid (note without the @mac.com)
Password mydotmacpassword
...you can either turn off or delete your existing .Mac account on your iPhone.
This way you're using exactly the same settings as a default .Mac account, but you can specify the return address in there.

.mac mail problems since 10.4.8

Ever since upgrading to 10.4.8, I have to constantly reenter my .mac password to receive mail. I'll notice my mail icon bouncing, and when I check it, I get the message that I my password for .mac mail has been rejected and I must reenter it. I do so, add it to my keychain, and it works for awhile. Then for unknown reasons, same message, etc. It's getting really old. I'm curious how many others are having this same experience. I'm about ready to do a warranty "chat" with Apple and officially report the problem, since they don't seem to be doing anything about it.
Two other POP mail accounts I have work fine.

I having problems with both of my mac's when subscribing to .mac e-mail service. My G4 machine just beachballs and the Intel mac is constantly asking for my .mac password.
There's a message on the .mac home page that suggests to take your mail account offline and then online again to force it to connect. This is a temporary fix while Apple is working on the problem.
"We are aware of an issue that can cause an unrequested dialog box to be seen when checking for new messages using an email application such as Mac OS X Mail. This dialog can consist of either a request for the account password or a message informing you that the connection to the mail server has timed out.
Workaround:
Should you be presented with either of these messages, click the Cancel button which will place your account into offline mode. Then take the account online again by either selecting Go Online from the Mailbox menu or by clicking the lightning bolt icon displayed to the right of the affected account's Inbox folder icon in your mailbox list. This should make your account active again.
If the previous steps do not restore access to your mail, quit and reopen Mail. We appreciate your patience as we work to resolve this.
Sincerely,
The .Mac Team"
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Mac Mail blocking replies to a gmail account.

I use mac mail as I have 4 email accounts (work - personal). Recently whenever I reply to an email from any, the recipiant does not receive it. It marks as sent and I have no bounce backs.
They use gmail, and receive standard emails from me fine, just not replies.
Is this a problem my end, is mac mail flagging up this particular email account as dangerous? (its not, its my girlfriends)
Or is this a problem with gmail and emails from me?
any help would be great.
Cheers
R

Consider deleting the login.keychain file and starting afresh to ensure that there is absolutely no chance that the issue is with the keychain. The login.keychain file is located in <home>/Library/Keychain
Alternatively, consider creating a new user on your Mac and then set up your email account under the new user to see if it works OK there. This will establish if the problem is related to your other account.
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