Mac or Windows ? for graphic design

Hi, so next year I'm going to study graphic design and I'm going to use lots of programs like illustrator, indesign, photoshop... I've been in trouble all these years trying to fin the best computer for me. I don´t want to spend a lot of money in a laptop, i think I'ts better to invest more money in a desktop. I'll choose windows because of their prices (they are really cheap and with lots of memory..) and mac because every designer has a mac and i dont really know how to use it.
These are my 2 options :
1) Vaio fit 15" A - Flip pc                Vaio tap 21" portable all-in-one desktop
            core i5                                         core i7
           8GB memory             +        8GB memory
         1TB hard drive                         1 TB hard drive
   NVIDIA gt 735M (2gb)                 intel hd graphics 4400
          $1,250.00                                   $ 1,300.00
2) 13"Retina                           21.5" imac                         27"imac
      8GB memory              +     8GB memory        OR      8GB memory
   256GB flash storage            1TB hard drive                 1TB hard drive
    Intel Iris Graphics         NVIDIA GT 750M (1GB)          NVIDIA GT 755M
          $1,499.00                          $ 1,500.00                         $1,800.00
IN the second option maybe it will be or the retina macbook pro or the macbook air.
I Don't really have a lot of money but if i have to invest in a good computer i will do it.
Hope you can help
thanks

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