Mac Pro 2008 or iMac 27 i7 ? Which to choose?
I am looking to upgrade to a faster Mac from my current Macbook Pro and decided either on an iMac 27 inch i7 2.8 GHz 8 Gigs RAM 4870 Video card or buy a used Mac Pro 2008 with 2 x 2.8GHz 4 Core (8 core total) with 10 Gigs RAM and an 8800GT video card.
Both come to almost the same price. Problem is I don't know which to get. The system will be used mainly for software development, running windows 7 and linux as Virtual Machine, some light gaming, and music (sampling, etc)
I love the iMac's LED screen and the i7 certainly is fast but love the Mac Pro's expandability in terms of hard drives and memory and I would use it on my 30 inch LCD. That said, would I ever go past the Mac Pro's configuration of 2 TB's of drives (maybe) and more than 10 Gigs RAM (don't know)? You're stuck with the iMac in terms of hard drives forced to add slow external cases.
The Mac Pro is over 2 years old at this point but I know the Mac Pro is a work horse and the iMac has had issues.
Anyone have an opinion on this? Might it be worth saving some more cash (although would take another 6 months) and getting a 2009 Mac Pro?
Let me know...
Asked a lot and the new iMac makes it look better, but not for triple boot unless you stict to VMs most of the time. The freedom of having alternate OSs on their own drives and such.
AppleInsider gave the high end iMac makes sense if you go that route, and if you would need a monitor as well?
Barefeats has posted a number of tests of the iMacs
http://www.barefeats.com
Even the 2009 $2149 4-core is no slouch and easier to find and work with.
At that price, you are close to the 2010. So wait another 36 hrs.
http://www.apple.com/macpro/specs.html
http://www.barefeats.com/nehal17.html
Apple Specials change during the day, they disappear quickly.
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/mac_pro
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Hi,
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http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304122
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Hello,
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I have tried the following:
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6800 would 'qualify' as 5x70 series flashed etc and same rule: 10.6.5
In the past there was 10.4.6, 10.5.6, but not 10.6.6 - even though strong need for such a DVD.
10.6.8 DVD would be excellent
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With Carbon Coyp Cloner - was share, now commercial, great utility been around since 10.2.2 at least - this time 2003. 10 yrs.
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Clone
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Put the new drive anywhere you want. Does not matter. Can move it later. Can be drive bay 0-3 or a Firewire external or under the DVD drive.
When you clone pull the old drive and boot from the newly cloned.
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How Many devices can I sync with my iPhone? I own a Mac PRO and an iMAC. Depends on where I am, I will plug my iPhone to either of the machines. I haven't sync with either machine yet.
Dah•veed wrote:
Please explain how one would accomplish that feat.
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KiltedTim wrote:
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Mac Pro 2008 Won't Start Up without Option Key
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I cannot start up my Mac Pro 2008 without holding down the Option key.
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If I Restart, the Mac comes up with a grey screen and won't boot into any system.
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Compatible HD for Early Mac Pro 2008
Hello All,
I have two failing drives in my early Mac Pro 2008 and its time to find some replacements. The drives I need to replace are 1TB in size but I was looking to get something larger being 1.5TB. I read on a site that this version of Mac Pro supports a maximum of 4TB accross all the four bays which would essentially mean a maximum of 1TB for each Bay. Here is the link to the site: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_pro/faq/mac-pro-how-to-upgrade-hard-dr ives-what-type-supported.html
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As an example, if you got 4 3TB's you could stuff them in there for a max of 12TB. Bit of overkill unless you really need all that space!
Personally I like Western Digital 1TB and 2TB blacks.
You might also want to consider using an SSD as your boot drive.
Update: I took a look at that site you linked. That 4TB limit is the max any one drive bay can support, not the total capacity across all 4 bays. -
Mac Pro 2008 always crash after sleep and after first start
Hello, new in the forum,
2 years ago, I replaced the main disk of a Mac Pro 2008 for a SSD Samsung 470 256 Go.
Until then, it always crashed 1 or 5 minutes after sleep mode (which I didn't used much), and not always 10 to 15 minutes after the first start of the day.
No matter if I was working on it or not… Suitcase installed or not (no font problem here). Rest of the day was fine (if no sleep !).
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2 weeks ago, I installed Maverick :
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Adobe CS5 alone (minimal install) with Onyx to repair after each crash.
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panic(cpu 3 caller 0xffffff8007cb8945): Kernel trap at 0xffffff8007ef69e0, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x0000000080010033, CR2: 0x000000000000008a, CR3: 0x000000002f749000, CR4: 0x0000000000000660
RAX: 0xffffff80209bb7e8, RBX: 0xffffff801fc6d808, RCX: 0x0000000009000000, RDX: 0xffffff801fc6dde0
RSP: 0xffffff8131b7bbc0, RBP: 0xffffff8131b7bc00, RSI: 0x00000000000c43ff, RDI: 0xffffff801fc6dde0
R8: 0x0000000000000000, R9: 0x0000000000000000, R10: 0xffffff80220fbfa4, R11: 0x0000000000000020
R12: 0xffffff801fc6dde0, R13: 0x00000000000c43ff, R14: 0x00000000000c43ff, R15: 0x0000000000000002
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0xffffff8131b7b8d0 : 0xffffff8007cb8945
0xffffff8131b7baa0 : 0xffffff8007ccebfd
0xffffff8131b7bac0 : 0xffffff8007ef69e0
0xffffff8131b7bc00 : 0xffffff8007eee0d6
0xffffff8131b7be00 : 0xffffff8007d1a5d6
0xffffff8131b7be60 : 0xffffff8007d092aa
0xffffff8131b7bf50 : 0xffffff8007fe97ba
0xffffff8131b7bfb0 : 0xffffff8007ccf453
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com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily 2.5.1
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com.apple.iokit.IOATAFamily 2.5.1
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily 635.4.0
com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM 2.0
com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily 1.8.1
com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime 2.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily 1.1
com.apple.security.sandbox 220.3
com.apple.kext.AppleMatch 1.0.0d1
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com.apple.driver.DiskImages 345
com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily 1.8
com.apple.driver.AppleKeyStore 28.21
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform 1.8
com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily 2.8
com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily 1.4
com.apple.kec.corecrypto 1.0
Model: MacPro3,1, BootROM MP31.006C.B05, 8 processors, Quad-Core Intel Xeon, 2.8 GHz, 10 GB, SMC 1.25f4
Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT, ATI Radeon HD 2600, PCIe, 256 MB
Memory Module: DIMM Riser B/DIMM 1, 2 GB, DDR2 FB-DIMM, 800 MHz, 0x02FE, 0x47523244463247425838454C3830304E3252
Memory Module: DIMM Riser B/DIMM 2, 2 GB, DDR2 FB-DIMM, 800 MHz, 0x02FE, 0x47523244463247425838454C3830304E3252
Memory Module: DIMM Riser A/DIMM 1, 1 GB, DDR2 FB-DIMM, 800 MHz, 0x80AD, 0x48594D5035313241373243503844332D5335
Memory Module: DIMM Riser A/DIMM 2, 1 GB, DDR2 FB-DIMM, 800 MHz, 0x80AD, 0x48594D5035313241373243503844332D5335
Memory Module: DIMM Riser A/DIMM 3, 2 GB, DDR2 FB-DIMM, 800 MHz, 0x02FE, 0x47523244463247425838454C3830304E3252
Memory Module: DIMM Riser A/DIMM 4, 2 GB, DDR2 FB-DIMM, 800 MHz, 0x02FE, 0x47523244463247425838454C3830304E3252
Bluetooth: Version 4.1.7f4 12974, 3 service, 12 devices, 0 incoming serial ports
PCI Card: ATI Radeon HD 2600, sppci_displaycontroller, Slot-1
Serial ATA Device: Samsung SSD 840 PRO Series, 512,11 GB
Serial ATA Device: ST31000524AS, 1 TB
Parallel ATA Device: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112D
USB Device: hub_device, apple_vendor_id, 0x9120, 0xfd500000 / 2
USB Device: Keyboard Hub, apple_vendor_id, 0x1006, 0xfd520000 / 4
USB Device: Apple Optical USB Mouse, apple_vendor_id, 0x0304, 0xfd521000 / 6
USB Device: Apple Keyboard, apple_vendor_id, 0x0221, 0xfd522000 / 5
USB Device: Apple Cinema HD Display, apple_vendor_id, 0x9220, 0xfd530000 / 3
USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, apple_vendor_id, 0x8206, 0x5d200000 / 2
FireWire Device: built-in_hub, 800mbit_speed
FireWire Device: unknown_device, unknown_speed
Report EtreCheck :
Description du problème :
Here is the report of EtreCheck after the Kerner Panic sent before.
Christophe.s
EtreCheck version : 2.0.2 (86)
Rapport créé 13 octobre 2014 11:23:31 UTC+02:00
Informations matérielles : ℹ️
Mac Pro (début 2008)
Mac Pro - modèle : MacPro3,1
2 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon CPU : 8-core
10 GB RAM Pas extensible
DIMM Riser B/DIMM 1
2 GB DDR2 FB-DIMM 800 MHz ok
DIMM Riser B/DIMM 2
2 GB DDR2 FB-DIMM 800 MHz ok
DIMM Riser A/DIMM 1
1 GB DDR2 FB-DIMM 800 MHz ok
DIMM Riser A/DIMM 2
1 GB DDR2 FB-DIMM 800 MHz ok
DIMM Riser B/DIMM 3
empty empty empty empty
DIMM Riser B/DIMM 4
empty empty empty empty
DIMM Riser A/DIMM 3
2 GB DDR2 FB-DIMM 800 MHz ok
DIMM Riser A/DIMM 4
2 GB DDR2 FB-DIMM 800 MHz ok
Bluetooth: Vieux - Handoff/Airdrop2 pas disponible
Informations vidéos : ℹ️
ATI Radeon HD 2600 - VRAM : 256 MB
Cinema HD Display 2560 x 1600
Logiciel du système : ℹ️
OS X 10.8.5 (12F45) - Uptime: un jour 0:11:6
Informations des disques : ℹ️
Samsung SSD 840 PRO Series disk0 : (512,11 GB)
Statut S.M.A.R.T. : Vérifié
disk0s1 (disk0s1) <non monté> : 210 Mo
MacPro SSD (disk0s2) / [Startup] : 511.25 Go (472.61 Go libre)
Recovery HD (disk0s3) <non monté> [Restauration] : 650 Mo
ST31000524AS disk1 : (1 TB)
Statut S.M.A.R.T. : Vérifié
disk1s1 (disk1s1) <non monté> : 210 Mo
MacPro 1To (disk1s2) /Volumes/MacPro 1To : 999.35 Go (633.08 Go libre)
Recovery HD (disk1s3) <non monté> [Restauration] : 650 Mo
Informations USB : ℹ️
Verbatim Portable USB Drive 320,07 GB
Statut S.M.A.R.T. : Vérifié
disk3s1 (disk3s1) <non monté> : 210 Mo
320 Go Christophe Syren (disk3s2) /Volumes/320 Go Christophe Syren : 319.73 Go (313.64 Go libre)
USB 2.0 USB Flash Drive 8,17 GB
Statut S.M.A.R.T. : Vérifié
SANS TITRE (disk2s1) <non monté> : 8.17 Go
Apple, Inc. Keyboard Hub
Mitsumi Electric Apple Optical USB Mouse
Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard
Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
Gatekeeper : ℹ️
Mac App Store et développeurs identifiés
Représentants de lancement : ℹ️
[désengagé] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist Aide
[désengagé] com.adobe.CS5ServiceManager.plist Aide
[désengagé] com.extensis.FMCore.plist Aide
Daemons de lancements : ℹ️
[invalid?] com.adobe.SwitchBoard.plist Aide
Représentants de lancement pour l’utilisateur : ℹ️
[désengagé] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist Aide
[désengagé] com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist Aide
Éléments Ouverture : ℹ️
iTunesHelper Application (/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app)
Dropbox Application (/Applications/Dropbox.app)
Plug-ins internet : ℹ️
OfficeLiveBrowserPlugin : Version : 12.3.6 Aide
AdobePDFViewer : Version : 9.5.5 Aide
QuickTime Plugin : Version : 7.7.1
JavaAppletPlugin : Version : 14.9.0 - SDK 10.7 Vérifier la version
Panneaux de préférences de 3ème partie : ℹ️
Growl Aide
Time Machine : ℹ️
Skip System Files: NO
Sauvegarde automatique : OUI
Disques sauvegardés :
MacPro SSD : Taille de disque : 511.25 Go Disque utilisé : 38.64 Go
Destinations :
Data [Network]
Taille totale : 2 To
Nombre de sauvegardes total : 9
Sauvegardes la plus agée : 2014-10-08 01:39:21 +0000
Dernière sauvegarde : 2014-10-10 11:31:35 +0000
Taille de la disque de sauvegarde : Excellent
Taille de sauvegarde 2 To > (Taille de disque 511.25 Go X 3)
L’utilisation du CPU par processus : ℹ️
1% WindowServer
0% ps
0% fontd
0% System Events
0% coreservicesd
L’utilisation de la mémoire par processus : ℹ️
97 Mo Dock
97 Mo Finder
75 Mo WindowServer
64 Mo com.apple.security.pboxd
64 Mo CalendarAgent
Informations de la mémoire virtuelle : ℹ️
523 Mo RAM Disponible
1.04 Go RAM Active
307 Mo RAM Inactive
8.86 Go RAM Résidente
266 Mo Pages entrants
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Mac Pro 2008 Apple Cinema Displays are black and there are start up issues
I have a Mac Pro 2008 Dual quad 2.8 GHz. I have two Apple Cinema Displays (graphics are the standard ATI Radeon HD 2600 – 2 dual link DVI. I have 4 2-GB RAM sticks (8 GB total).
Neither of my displays are showing anything. Their power lights are on but they are completely black throughout the start up process. In addition when I try to boot up with both graphics cards installed, I get nothing – no beeps no chimes. If just one card is installed (either card in either slot) the computer beeps, chimes and makes the sounds of booting up, but not a flicker on the displays. RAM does not seem to be the issue as I have tried booting with several configurations of RAM sticks with no negative or positive effects. I tried booting up with Hard Drives 1 & 2 removed with no effect. I have tried several different start up moods and have reset PRAM.
My guess is that there is something wrong with the motherboard. Or is it possible that both graphics cards are bad?The "least intensive" thing you can do is hold down Alt/Option at Startup. Thsi invokes the all-in-ROM Startup Manager, which will light up the screen gray or blue, then attempt to draw an Icon for each potentially-bootable Volume attached (if any). It works as if in slow motion, so you must be patient. If no activity after about two minutes you may count that as a failure.
The next most intensive is to attempt to boot from an incorruptible source of software, such as an Installer/Utilities DVD. This again uses the "one-size-fits-all" display driver, and attempts to load software off the DVD. The dark colored Apple is loaded off a drive -- it is not present inside your Mac.
The next most intensive step is to attempt to boot into Safe Mode. This also uses the "one-size-fits-all" display Driver, and does a disk check as it starts up, adding five minutes to the startup time. It then drwas a login screen and deamds your username and password, even if you normally auto-login. -
Apple Mac Pro 2008 dual 2.8ghz quad core
Hey guys,
Ive got a real brain teaser. I have a apple mac pro 2008 dual 2.8ghz quad core that wont boot.
The leds on the memory test good its all tested in another mac and working well.
The 9 leds are reading as follows 2nd led lit yellow. Led 9,8,7 Green- which from my research is good.
Ive also reset the cmos battery and vram, nothing.
Pulled the memory and video card and re-seated them also nothing.
The last thing i tryed was shut the computer down sit for 30 seconds then held alt and got the install mac os screen not a hard drive option.
Which leads me to think its not seeing the hard drive?
Any suggestions?Starts up with fans
Makes the apple chime
The chime is generated in software when the first portion of the power-on self test has passed.Your Mac is working and has enough working RAM memory to start up.
You still may have problems with drives, the software on those drives, or your graphics card.
apple logo comes up
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with spinning gear and just sits there for hours
It is stuck booting up something. Verbose Mode (hold Command-V at startup) will show you the parade of messages. The last five will tell you what happened. -
Cannot install Vista Ultimate 64bits on Mac Pro 2008
Hello,
I'm trying to install Vista Ultimate 64bits on my new Mac Pro (2008, 2x Quad Core, 3x 500GBHDD, 16 GB Ram), but Vista is unable to find a correct partition type.
The first thing I did was to install a 4th HD, and I constantly received an error 0x80004005 which seems to be too generic.
Then I tried to install it on the 3rd HD (Bay 2 is where my OS X startup disk is located btw) but here no way neither....Windows cannot find a valid partition.....
I tried to partition it manually in MBR...same problem....
Then with BootCamp assistant...same problem...
I also tried to use Vista Business 64 SP1, same problem...
Do you have any idea ?
Thanks,
PatrickHello,
Thanks for your answer, but unfortunately I'm still stuck...
To resume the situation :
I put a brand new 250GB SATA in the bay 4.
I start Bootcamp Assistant and tell him that I want to use this new disk for Windows and then start Vista x64 install.
Vista sees 2 partitions on this new disk :
Disk 3 Partition 1 : 200 MB (Primary)
Disk 3 Partition 2 : 230 GB (Primary)
If I try to use the P2 for the install, I have to format it first. Once formatted, Vista says : This computer's hardware may not support booting to this disk. Ensure that the disk controller is enabled in the computer's BIOS menu.
If I try to use the 200 MB (just for fun..), then I also have to format it, but here I receive the error message 0x8000xxxx
So clearly I'm lost...
Could it be related to the 16 GB RAM ? Too much for Vista ?? I don't believe as this is Vista x64...
Thanks for your help, ideas..
Patrick -
Replacement mac pro 2008 motherboard
Hi,
It looks as if the logic board in my dual quad core 3Ghz mac 2008 mac pro has died.
Rebooted it last night and I just get the grey screen, apple logo and spinning icon
Removed all peripherals and network connections - no change
tried to boot into safe mode and the sequence gets so far and then the machine shuts down
removed all internal disks apart from system disk - no change
replaced system disk with backup system disk - no change
reset the EFI - no change
removed some 4Gbyte memory DIMMS I'd installed recently - no change
Took backup system disk into work and put into same age chassis and disk booted just fine.
So
1). Found a mac pro 2008 used motherboard for £345 on ebay - eek!!
2). If all I need is a motherboaed, can I install a newer mac pro motherboard in the chassis I've currently got?
Rgds
Alexhave to agree, $600+ part www.dvwarehouse.com
sounds like they really did not address (all) the problems and went for a superficial renstall the system with a new drive instead.
10.7.5 may not be ideal OS for 3,1 2008s
FBDIMMs are cheap now and higher quality, $64 8GB (I'll bet they soaked you though)
SMC Reset for won't start
the OEM graphic card, those are a MUST replace list, esp for 10.7.5 but for anyone too
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