Mac Pro Motherboard question

Hi, folks. I am new to the Apple community. I just ordered a Mac Pro and I am anxiously awaiting its delivery.
From my discussion with my salesperson, I came away with a question about the Mac Pro motherboard.
I ordered my Mac Pro with one quad 2.8 chip. I asked the salesperson if I would install another quad core chip at a later time. His answer was no; the motherboard is different when you order a single quad core vs dual quad cores.
I hope this is not the correct answer.
Thanks, in advance....

are you in the US? I think, it might be best to telephone Apple direct, as their offers and recycling and refund policies vary from country to country to comply with trading standards and other (e.g. EU regulations).
If it was EU law, the following applies:
1) the "shopkeeper" (Apple) offered a machine at a certain price.
2) you like the good and advise the shopkeeper that you are prepared to pay as asked and purchase the machine.
3) Apple accept your offer and sell the machine.
4) You accept the machine at the conditions of the sales offer and take it home
5) contract complete and UNLESS you were knowingly misled or the machine was not the one on offer as per 1, you are the legal owner and have no recourse to complaint.
Secondly, there is psychology: you will never ever be happy if you always look for better (my washing machine is 20 years old, but washes - and that is all I expect from a washing machine). Is your machine performing? Are you happy as such? If not, there is always something "better" and "improved". That is what the market economy want to make us believe.
I hope you achieve what you desire. The very best of luck.

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Zipper007: Mac Pro 2010 question

zipper007
*Mac Pro 2010 question*
I'm interested in Quad Core 2.8 model.
I cant find the details I want on it right now.
If in the future I decide to upgrade (couple of years)
If the parts are available, yes. But not a supported option.
You are on your own.
I use the daughter card and (2) processors from an 8 Core in my machine. Pull mine and add the upgrade?
You can't change from single to dual though.
My personal feeling is it may not make as much sense cost-wise or performance, and buy what you need. Or build PC of course.
http://www.apple.com/macpro/design.html
http://macperformanceguide.com/Reviews-MacProWestmere-Estimates.html
http://www.apple.com/macpro/specs.html

I know it can be done and has been... but I still think
A) you bought something less than retail that slanted the real cost
B) no warranty
C) due to other changes might not be worth it
Guy posted on Accelerateyourmac how they (and others, but not a lot really) upped 5100 to 5355 (taken from his HP server). Or that one person is having fan and temp problems.
If you want, go for it with the risks, or build a PC for goodness sake. But you have to do your own leg work, stepping, firmware, and Apple will never issue firmware updates for say 2008 to support anything new; or 2009. That is their business model, it isn't my model, and what I do is my business. I just can't see running OS X anymore.

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Hi,
Just pulled the trigger on a Mac Pro 3gh, 4gb, ATI 1900. I am going to that from a dual 1.42 quicksilver and had some questions.
It seems migration assistant may not be the best way to go. Is this true, should I reinstall everything? Is it possible to drag and drop apps to the new machine?
Is it possible to get mail info from another machine to the new one? I have an iMac at home that I have been using Mail with and would like all the email addresses on the new machine at work. My old setup, I was still using Enterouge (sp) and would like to use Mail like at home.
I have the stock 250gb drive and I need to figure out different drive scenarios. I recently bought two external 500gb drives before even thinking about a new system. I am a commercial photographer and one drive is a backup that lives offsite from my studio for protection. Should I mirror with an external?
Thanks for any help!
HD

This FAQ may be helpful:
A Basic Guide for Migrating to Intel-Macs
If you are migrating a PowerPC system (G3, G4, or G5) to an Intel-Mac be careful what you migrate. Keep in mind that some items that may get transferred will not work on Intel machines and may end up causing your computer's operating system to malfunction.
Rosetta supports "software that runs on the PowerPC G3 or G4 processor that are built for Mac OS X". This excludes the items that are not universal binaries or simply will not work in Rosetta:
Classic Environment, and subsequently any Mac OS 9 or earlier applications
Screensavers written for the PowerPC
System Preference add-ons
All Unsanity Haxies
Browser and other plug-ins
Contextual Menu Items
Applications which specifically require the PowerPC G5
Kernel extensions
Java applications with JNI (PowerPC) libraries
See also What Can Be Translated by Rosetta.
In addition to the above you could also have problems with migrated cache files and/or cache files containing code that is incompatible.
If you migrate a user folder that contains any of these items, you may find that your Intel-Mac is malfunctioning. It would be wise to take care when migrating your systems from a PowerPC platform to an Intel-Mac platform to assure that you do not migrate these incompatible items.
If you have problems with applications not working, then completely uninstall said application and reinstall it from scratch. Take great care with Java applications and Java-based Peer-to-Peer applications. Many Java apps will not work on Intel-Macs as they are currently compiled. As of this time Limewire, Cabos, and Acquisition are available as universal binaries. Do not install browser plug-ins such as Flash or Shockwave from downloaded installers unless they are universal binaries. The version of OS X installed on your Intel-Mac comes with special compatible versions of Flash and Shockwave plug-ins for use with your browser.
The same problem will exist for any hardware drivers such as mouse software unless the drivers have been compiled as universal binaries. For third-party mice the current choices are USB Overdrive or SteerMouse. Contact the developer or manufacturer of your third-party mouse software to find out when a universal binary version will be available.
Also be careful with some backup utilities and third-party disk repair utilities. Disk Warrior (does not work), TechTool Pro (pre-4.5.1 versions do not work), SuperDuper (newest release works), and Drive Genius (untested) may not work properly on Intel-Macs. The same caution may apply to the many "maintenance" utilities that have not yet been converted to universal binaries.
Before migrating or installing software on your Intel-Mac check MacFixit's Rosetta Compatibility Index.
Additional links that will be helpful to new Intel-Mac users:
Intel In Macs
Apple Guide to Universal Applications
MacInTouch List of Compatible Universal Binaries
MacInTouch List of Rosetta Compatible Applications
MacUpdate List of Intel-Compatible Software
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~/Library/Keychains (copy the whole folder)
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I am disappointed with my Intel iMac due to lack of USB ports (hubs don't work with some of my usb hardware) and the ridiculous audio/optical combo port. So I think I may go Mac Pro when Leopard is released. A few questions need to be answered if you would be so kind. A few caveats first...
A) Mac Pros are expensive for me, so I need to save money where I am able.
B) The Mac Pro will double as a media player for my Home Theater system. I have a connection for DVI and Toslink
OK, now the questions...
1. Does the Mac Pro come with the trays for the extra hard drives? I would like to purchase more drives separately. Can I do this, and what type of drives are used, SATA?
2. RAM from Apple is expensive. Is there a less costly alternative? It must be a dependable brand. Please include part number if available. Thanks!
3. Will reduction from 2.66 to 2.0 ghz make that much difference? I like grinding MP2 videos to H.264. Really, will it be worth the additional $264?
4. I can use both DVI or HDMI to go to my Home Theater system. Currently, starting the Home Theater changes the resolution on my iMac. I would like to avoid this. Should I get another NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT, or will the dual port on the one card be able to be set to a different resolution output? I would like to be able to still work on my Mac while the kids are watching something in the theater.
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4. I can use both DVI or HDMI to go to my Home
Theater system. Currently, starting the Home Theater
changes the resolution on my iMac.
You should be able to run different resolutions on the built-in display and external display if Mirroring is turned off in "Displays" System Preference.
I would like to
avoid this. Should I get another NVIDIA GeForce 7300
GT, or will the dual port on the one card be able to
be set to a different resolution output? I would like
to be able to still work on my Mac while the kids are
watching something in the theater.
The two DVI ports can run at different resolutions.
5. As for audio, will I be able to run headphones,
external speakers and optical out all at the same
time? I am assuming yes, but just want to make sure.
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I know the obvious answer is most likely "the bundles are worth the added expense," and would certainly agree, but I'm going into poor/in debt student mode soon, so I need to be careful. Thanks.

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So I'm wondering how essential certain elements are to general versatility in using Logic, so I can decide whether or not I need them right away. For example, I'm planning on using the native instruments bundle for samples, so I'm not sure that I really need the EXS tutorial. And I've just realized that I do actually use the environment all the time, I just forgot that the audio mixer is technically part of it--so that tutorial would probably be very useful.
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Mac Pro - Config Questions

In anticipation of a newly updated Mac Pro line and in anticipation of me purchasing my first ever Mac Pro, having already had 2 iMacs, I was wanting to get some input from you fine folks here and tell me what is working well and perhaps even some hints on what to get and buy from in regard to RAM, internal hard drives and graphics cards, if there are some other options for graphic cards where I can save some money.

Sorry about leaving out my use of the Mac Pro.
I do plan on using 3rd party hard drives, RAM, etc and from all the reading I have been doing I AM planning on letting Apple install the bluetooth and wireless card for me since everyone points out it is tough to do on your own, etc. I was mainly wanting to know what 3rd party RAM and hard drives were working out for some of you, specify brand names if you would.
I will be using it to record music via Logic Pro 8, play games via Bootcamp and also work on video editing, capturing...so a bit of it all really and pictures of course.
How is the sound card in the Mac Pro by the way? I am finding that I am getting a bit of noise coming out of my analog output when playing the one game I like to play on the Windows side and a bit of crackle out of some tracks recorded on LP8. I am assuming the sound card is a bit better and of better quality than the one in the non-aluminum verison iMac? If it is the same, are you able to install sound cards such as the Creative X-Fi line as you can with PC's? I had an X-Fi Music card for my PC and it was nice sounded better than the onboard motherboard sound that I had on my VAIO.
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Just got a new mac pro - flashing question mark and more...

I wonder if anyone can help me solve this problem. i just bought a mac pro, turned it on and a flashing question mark blinked on the screen. i got on my mac book to search apple.com for the problem and it said to boot with the install disk and hold the c key. i did all that and now i cannot take out the disk. i'm still unable to select a startup disk either. i currently have a mac g5 and loved it but it is old am really surprised with having this problem. can anyone help?

If it's new and it does that, it's very likely a loose component. If you feel comfortable doing so, open the case, and make sure that the RAM is firmly seated in its sockets and the drive cables firmly connected to the drives and the circuit board. Also check the power cables to the drives.
Depending on how the computer was handled in transit, these things can get jostled loose, and loose RAM or cabling will give you what you observe.
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Mid 2010-12 Mac Pro Motherboard and graphics card

Is it possible to run two ATI Radeon 5770s and then have them connected via an SLI cable with the Mac Pro's motherboard as the motherboard has to be compatible, so would anyone know if it is?

Is it possible to run two ATI Radeon 5770s
Yes, that works and provides additional graphics-compute performance. Also supports up to six displays without the need for additional Aux power connections over the ONE required for each card.
... and then have them connected via an SLI cable ...
Sorry, no. The Mac does not use them in that fashion, regardless of whether you manage somehow to connect them. But when two are installed, the results in Final Cut Pro X are comparable (can be drawn on the same graph) as the dual cards in the Mac Pro 2013:
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After debating between iMac and Mac Pro, I decided on a refurb SINGLE 2.8 quad-core Mac Pro.
Somewhere in these discussions (can't find it now) I thought I saw recommendations to zero out the hard drive and re-install the system when it arrives. Is this necessary?
Also, I plan to use the single processor savings to buy RAM. When I go to the Crucial site, they have a choice of RAM for 4-core or 8-core. Mine is only 4-core, but would I choose the 8-core option to get the correct RAM for 2008 models?
In general, when it comes to buying and installing RAM, should I follow the 8-core directions? Will having a single processor change anything to do with upgrades or expansion?
Thanks. Hope I didn't ask too much in one post.

Somewhere in these discussions (can't find it now) I thought I saw recommendations to zero out the hard drive and re-install the system when it arrives. Is this necessary?
No, that really isn't necessary. If you were prepping a new bare drive that had never been used or you were installing OS X on a drive that had once been used for Windows, then zeroing the drive is quite appropriate.
All the Mac Pros use the same type of RAM. The Late 2008 models use the faster PC2-6400 800 MHz RAM, but the other specs are the same - ECC, Fully buffered, heat sink. The RAM and installation is the same regardless of cores.
RAM should be installed minimally in matched pairs, optimally in matched quads. The following illustrations show how it should be installed:
Mac Pro memory arrangement photos
Mac Pro Memory Configuration

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Even the Free DAZ Studio 3, needs a much better computer than i have.
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And is the mac mini good enough for a 3D Graphics/animation hobbyetst?

1. You can definitely keep your current monitor when you move to a Mac Mini/Mac Pro. A DVI or VGA connection is standard and available from either with included adapters.
2. Programs should run fine using Rosetta on Snow Leopard. However, you will have to try your individual programs to find out. Many older programs have a few bugs running in Leopard/Snow Leopard, and any current machine will run Snow Leopard only.
3. Mac Mini versus Mac Pro: you're looking at two different classes of machine. 3D rendering requires powerful hardware unless you are very patient. Only you can decide if a Mini is fast "enough". I encourage you to go to an Apple store. They will (probably) be willing to let you install one of the programs you use on both a Mini and a Mac Pro to see how they run, or they may have something pre-loaded you can try. Then you can decide if the speed difference is worth the $ to you.
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Good luck; let us know what you choose and how it goes!

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Just bought an 8-core Mac Pro. Wooo hoooo!
I'll be selling my G5, and I want to include the applications but of course not my files, passwords, etc. I thought I would just create a new user account, log in to that, and delete my old user account. Will that do it, or is there anything else I need to do?
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Thanks.

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Did I mention don't forget to back up your data first?

Early 2009 Mac Pro Memory Question.

I currently upgraded to 4GBx3 from OWC. I want to fill the last slot and contacted OWC. They told me that I had to purchase 2 modules as they are in pairs. Went to crucial and they said I could add a single 4GB. I am a little confused about this so looking to the community for assistance.
Stephen

Your sales rep at OWC needs to be sent back for re-training.
The 2009 and later Mac Pros have optimum memory performance when memories are installed in trios. The penalty for installing only two, in real-world performance terms, is about five percent. The penalty for installing four is smaller than five percent, and is generally swamped by the general increase in performance from having more memory.

Mac Pro Upgrading Questions!

Hello,
I have a 2007 model mac Pro with these specs:
2 x 2.66 GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon Processor
6GB 667 MHz DDR2 FB-DIMM Memory
I work with a lot of AVCHD video footage and graphics, there is a lot of rendering involved and my computer can no longer handle such things without an inordinate amount of slowdown and waiting!
So! Do I upgrade my current machine or get a new Mac pro? Or an iMac? Refurbished or new? Quad core or eight? Forgive my basic Mac knowledge I would be hugely grateful for any insights or advice.
Thank you all.
(Also I wish to use FCP7 and Motion 4, I understand there are some problems using Final Cut Studio 2 with Lion, is this true?)

You can find a long thread on putting a pair of 5355s to get 8-core and nearly double performance. Some time and paitience but very popular and cheap to do now.
MacRumors Mac Pro
Mac Pro 2010 6-core 3.33GHz would be in $3500 ball park but I'd hold off and wait.
SSD boot drive
4 x 4GB RAM minimum
ATI 5770

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Hi All,
I've seen a few related questions, but nothing exactly like it, so here I go...
BEFORE I have a meltdown and catastrophic failure (and oh, it will happen, heh), I want to ask the best way to "move" FCP Studio 2 from my MDD G4 Dual 1.42 to the new 8-core MacPro that'll be here soon.
The reason for posting? - because I started with FCP 2, and have done nothing but UPGRADE the entire time, for years, originally buying the pieces (DVDSP/Motion/etc), then the studio upgrade from the suite, and then upgrading to studio 2.0.
Somehow I seriously doubt I can just install by inserting the FCP Studio 2 disk set and double-clicking install - this is why I have (along the way) kept every single serial number and every single disk (for YEARS! - oh how I wish I could cot it all down to the Apple store and just exchange it for the latest box set to only have ONE in the storage unit).
So. Should I start with FCP 2, or start with FCP Studio 2, or somewhere in between? Been on the forums for years - love this place.
Thanks for the help,
Wayne

Thanks gents. Part of the heart-ache was moving from PPC to Intel, and wondering if I had to try and install FCP 3 (not 2, oops) first - which likely wouldn't happen
I got the courage today after your posts to pack up and junk all the manuals except for FCS2 though, and just keep the serial number sheets and the disks (saved a bunch of room in the cabinet!)
I'll consider it answered - and cross my fingers while I'm lighting the candle and getting out the chicken foot
Thanks again!

Replacement mac pro 2008 motherboard

Hi,
It looks as if the logic board in my dual quad core 3Ghz mac 2008 mac pro has died.
Rebooted it last night and I just get the grey screen, apple logo and spinning icon
Removed all peripherals and network connections - no change
tried to boot into safe mode and the sequence gets so far and then the machine shuts down
removed all internal disks apart from system disk - no change
replaced system disk with backup system disk - no change
reset the EFI - no change
removed some 4Gbyte memory DIMMS I'd installed recently - no change
Took backup system disk into work and put into same age chassis and disk booted just fine.
So
1). Found a mac pro 2008 used motherboard for £345 on ebay - eek!!
2). If all I need is a motherboaed, can I install a newer mac pro motherboard in the chassis I've currently got?
Rgds
Alex

have to agree, $600+ part www.dvwarehouse.com
sounds like they really did not address (all) the problems and went for a superficial renstall the system with a new drive instead.
10.7.5 may not be ideal OS for 3,1 2008s
FBDIMMs are cheap now and higher quality, $64 8GB (I'll bet they soaked you though)
SMC Reset for won't start
the OEM graphic card, those are a MUST replace list, esp for 10.7.5 but for anyone too
10.8.3 makes sense
you have to avoid any old plugin drivers software now or go back to 10.6.8 which some find more reliable and because they rely on Rosetta to run PowerPC coded software.

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