Macbook Air 2014 Refurb or Macbook Pro 2012 Non-Retina Refurb?

Hi,
I'm a freshman in high school and need a laptop to bring to school. I'm debating the above. On the Air side, it has a longer battery life and is newer, but it's not upgradable. On the Pro side, it's more 'powerful' (GHz) I think it has turbo boost to 3.1 GHz. I have a Programming and Engineering class and want to run Parallels smoothly. I need parallels for Visual Basic and Java, maybe Inventor. I hope to use until college; Just a last side note, On the AIr I'm looking at the 8gb Ram model, so both MBs are $929

EDIT: I found beta drivers for the MacBook Pro 2012 NVIDIA GPU and one of the fixes is V-Sync problems, which is exactly my issue. However, when I try to install it, it will not work because it says no compatible hardware is found, even though it says it supports GeForce 650M GPUs, which is it pretty much saying I need to get the update from Apple. So, I guess my real problem is... What's the holdup Apple?

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    Good afternoon.
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    I know that Solid State drives are better, but they are still too small, and I want the ease and portability of a 1 tb size INSIDE my computer.
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    I saw on Amazon the Seagate 1TB Solid State Hybrid Drive SATA 6Gbps 64MB Cache 2.5-Inch ST1000LM014  It's on sale for $94.
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    How reliable are the Seagate, versus a Toshiba or Western Digital or Hitachi or something else?
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    2.  Is a "normal" platter hard drive more reliable than a hybrid solid state drive?
    3.  Is there any additional driver or special software that I have to install for a hybrid solid state drive?
    4.  Currently there is no personal data stored on the computer.  Can I just put the new hard drive in, and then insert the snow leopard install cd?
    5.  If I install snow leopard, can I just go to the App store and get the free upgrade to Mavericks?
    6.  If I want to do the "Data Doubler" option in the future and add a normal Solid State drive into my computer, will it have trouble interacting with the 1 tb hybrid solid state drive?
    I would love to get some recommendations about the smartest option to upgrade my hard drive with something that will be fast (I edit lots of photos) and large (1 tb) that isn't going to cost too much.  I don't know much about the different brands or options (and there are so many listed in tons of online reviews), that I got really overwhelmed and confused by the info out there.
    I would really appreciate any help and advice.  I've never switched out a hard drive before.
    PLEASE HELP !!!  Thanks!
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    Model Identifier: MacBookPro9,1
    Processor: 2.3 GHz Intel Core i7
    Memory: 4 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
    Software: OS x 10.8.5
    Storage (Hard drive): APPLE HDD ST500LM012 Media, Rotational, SATA, GPT (GUID Partition Table)

    1.  Is a hybrid solid state drive going to need some kind of special formatting after I put it into the macbook so that I can put the operating system on it?
    The boot drive, regardless of what it is, needs to be formatted as Mac OS Extended (Journaled).  This is standard with OS X.
    2.  Is a "normal" platter hard drive more reliable than a hybrid solid state drive?
    There are arguments pro and con.  Bottom line, SSD's and hybrid drives are still quite expensive per GB than standard hard drives.  If you have the bucks and are a speed demon, go ahead.   I have better use for my money.   Standard hard drives are mechanical and may wear out over time.  But even though SSDs are not mechancial, they can still go bad and ultimately they even have a limit to their write capacity.  The jury is still out on this debate.
    3.  Is there any additional driver or special software that I have to install for a hybrid solid state drive?
    No
    4.  Currently there is no personal data stored on the computer.  Can I just put the new hard drive in, and then insert the snow leopard install cd?
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    5.  If I install snow leopard, can I just go to the App store and get the free upgrade to Mavericks?
    Not via Snow Leopard on this MBP.  See my response to #4.
    6.  If I want to do the "Data Doubler" option in the future and add a normal Solid State drive into my computer, will it have trouble interacting with the 1 tb hybrid solid state drive?
    No.  They are completely independent of each other; they are just independent storage units (drives) and their RAM does not interact.

  • Does macbook pro 2012 non retina support 16gb?

    Does the macbook pro (mid June 2012, non retina) support ram of 16gb?
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    Even though the website of apple says that its maximum capacity is 8gb,
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    You are welcome. The models have been tested by outside RAM vendors to operate with 16gB. There may have been an update since that eating, but doubtful.
    You can check at http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/memory/Apple_MacBook_MacBook_Pro/Upgrade to see if they recommend more RAM.

  • My USB drive won't show up on my MacBook Pro (2012 non retina)

    Okay, so I have 2 Macs.  2012 MacBook Pro, and a PPC iMac G4. I want to load music onto my USB drive, but it dosen't show up on my MacBook Pro. My iMac can read the USB without a problem, but the MacBook Pro will not. Iv'e made sure to check off everything in Finder Preferences, and also reveal everything in the Finder Side Bar, but still nothing will happen. I even tried looking for it in Disk Utility, and still nothing. Please Help.

    Check that the data cable is securely inserted at both ends.
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    Test the drive with another Mac. Test another drive with this Mac.
    If the drive is bus-powered, but has an AC adapter, connect the adapter.
    Boot into Recovery and launch Disk Utility. Is the drive recognized?
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  • MacBook Air 2014 or MacBook Pro 2012

    Hey,
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    Thanks in advance.

    You could upgrade the non-Retina MB/Pro with more memory (RAM) & also
    consider a later upgrade to an SSD such as the OWC macsales.com offers...
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    Memory Slots    2 - 204-pin PC3-12800 (1600 MHz) DDR3 SO-DIMM
    •MacBook Pro: How to remove or install memory
    an example of upgrade source (RAM, SSD, & etc)
    http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/powerbook-ibook-macbook/
    •SSD for MacBook/Pro (non-retina) 2009 to current:
    http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/SSD/OWC/Mercury_6G/
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    •MacBook Pro (13-inch) repair guide - ifixit:
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  • Is Macbook Air still relevant? Should I go for refurbished Macbook Air (2014) or Pro (2014)??

    Hi Friends,
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    1. 13' Macbook Air (2014). 4GB RAM, 256 GB SSD. Price: AUD 1179/-
    2. 13' Macbook Pro (2014). 8GB RAM, 128 GB SSD. Price: AUD 1359/-
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    B. Would 4GB of RAM be sufficient for next, say, three years?
    C. Would the lack of retina display in MBA be a problem in future? (Personally, I did not find much difference (may be, my bad) for 13' screen.)
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    Until a month ago my main computer was a 13" 2011 MBA (4GB w/ 256GB SSD) when I replaced it with a 13" 2015 MBP retina (8GB w/ 512GB SSD). The MBA is now my backup computer (and will remain my travel computer). I bought the MBPr when it became time to replace the Air due to the display pure and simple. My older eyes appreciate the incredibly clear display and the fact that changing between its default resolutions all result in crystal clear text. Using the Air for hours at a time, with some apps, my eyes became fatigued and while I could change the resolution for larger text, the text was fuzzy. The MBPr is a dream. However the Air is significantly lighter and thinner and much nicer to travel with. Were my eyes better I'd have chosen the 2015 Air.
    I strongly recommend 8GB of RAM and a minimum of 256GB SSD. Depending on what software you use, 4GB will be sufficient now but three years down the road? I doubt it. Each new version of the OS has required more memory. With Mavericks (OS X 10.9) the 4GB was fine but with Yosemite I now see a moderate level of what Apple now calls memory pressure. That means my computer is now relying heavily on virtual memory. I suspect that with 10.11 and certainly 10.12 (or whatever Apple calls the next two versions of its OS) I'll have to change how I use the Air. In other words I won't be able to run 3-5 programs at a time which is how I prefer to work.

  • Macbook Air 2014 hinges loose

    Dear Everyone,
    The first i want said sorry about my english is not good
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    Hien Duong

    It's under warranty. Take it in for service.

  • Macbook Pro 15in mid 2012 Non-Retina Freeze

    Macbook Pro 15in mid 2012 Non-Retina Freezes randomly. OSX 10.7.4. Do not have Google Chrome installed. I have to press the power button to restart. Any idea how to fix this?
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  • Can mid 2011 macbook air use early 2011 macbook pro's RAM?

    I just upgraded my macbook pro's ram from 4gb to 8gb.
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    No. The MacBook Air's RAM isn't upgradable, except when configuring a model in the online Apple Store.
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  • I want to daisy chain my 15 inch mid 2012 non retina macbook pro to a 2012 27inch imac and then to a 27 inch thunderbolt display

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    Downloads for most Adobe applications are available thru the following page:
    Download and Installation Help -
    https://helpx.adobe.com/download-install.html
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  • Macbook Air 13" 2011 vs Macbook Pro 13" for a uni student?

    Hi all,
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    Macbook Pro – 0.95 in thick max, 108.5in^2
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    Macbook Pro – 4.5 lbs
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    Hello EmPuah,
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  • Macbook Air (2014) sound fluctuation

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    Perhaps a PRAM reset will work:
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    You posted in the iPad forum instead of the Mac Book Air forum. To get answers to your question, next time post in the proper forum. See https://discussions.apple.com/welcome I'll request that Apple relocate your post.
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