Macbook and Macbook Pro

Hi i wana know if is really worth wasting 400 dollars more on the Macbook Pro compared to the $1600 Macbook ????????

Alukar,
I just purchased my Macbook Pro the other day after first looking at the Macbook (months of research). I went with the Pro because with the Macbook I wanted I was going to upgrade to 2.4; 4 g ram and maybe the hard drive which with everything said and done was a difference of about 400.00 for the Pro with maxed ram. Only difference is I would only have 13" screen lower resolution screen and no dedicated graphics processor (there is probably more I am not thinking about). What it comes down to is will you be happy with the Macbook in a year or two or will you want the pro? I am very happy with my new Pro and will not regret not saving the 400.00.

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Airport, 10.5.8, and MacBook and MacBook Pros and slow internet

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If you have Macbook or MacBook Pro, and have upgraded to 10.5.8, you may experience slower than normal airport connection due to a bug found in the original 10.5.8 installer. Apple has released this update for MacBooks and MacBook Pros to address the issue:
http://support.apple.com/downloads/AirPortClient_Update_for_MacBook_and_MacBookPro
To amend what Apple has stated, the System Profiler will indicate you have one of these three MacBook/Pro CPUs:
o MacBook3,1
o MacBook4,1
o MacBookPro4,1
If you have certain third party routers the update above will not help. In which case, it is recommended that you contact the third party router manufacturer for a firmware update, and find out also if others have your exact same router, and have found a resolution with your issue.
Wireless issues can be caused by the following:
1. Interference on the same wireless channel.
2. Single channel connection from some third party routers not being strong enough to deal with interference. Apple Airport Express, Extreme, and Time capsule wireless routers all support dual channel connections, and also support networking with Windows as well as Mac.
3. Bad router tables in your router.
4. Power surges.
5. Interference from microwaves, or 2.4 Ghz non-cell wireless phones, whose signal is not tempered with channel hopping.
6. Distances less than 2 feet may have many overlapping wireless waves causing interference from the wireless router.
7. Distances greater than 150 feet from the wireless router.
8. Walls with numerous pipes, improper ground wiring, file cabinets with numerous papers between the computer and the router.
9. Run the hardware test that came with your computer, it may indicate an issue on the logicboard which could also impact your wireless card.
10. Improper security on your wireless connection. Setting up a WPA2 connection is preferred over WEP, which is preferred over no password.
11. 802.11n is a draft standard, meaning not all routers support it the same way.
12. Data corruption in the wireless cache settings, caused by improper system maintenance:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1772235
13. Migrating wireless settings with the Migration Assistant from a PowerPC to Intel Mac, or vice versa. It is better to follow these tips to avoid those problems:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=435350&tstart=0
Not everyone will get this problem.
14. Apple Airport and Time Capsule firmware updates can be found on:
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/firmware_hardware/
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MacBook and MacBook Pro competing for airwaves

Howdy,
I have an Airport Extreme set up as wireless router, i.e., the cable modem is plugged into the Extreme. Elsewhere in the house, an Airport Express is set up to extend the network. We have both a MacBook and a MacBook Pro, both running Leopard. When both laptops are accessing the web, it seems as though they were competing for the connection because the MacBook systematically gets slower connections, lags, and sometimes gets disconnected entirely.
Following some advice I found elsewhere in these forums, I downgraded the firmware of the Airport Extreme to 7.3.1. Here are its main settings:
- participate in a WDS network
- radio mode: 802.11n (b/g compatible)
- channel 11
- security: WPA/WPA2 Personal
- DHCP server distributes addresses between 10.0.1.2 and 10.0.1.200
Both the Extreme and the Express use the same channel. I tried changing it with no success.
Upgrading the firmware does not resolve the issue. The MacBook Pro is never disconnected; it always comes ahead of the MacBook. The two laptops are not dealt the same IP address, but somehow, there is a competition. When the MacBook Pro is turned off, say, and not accessing the web or anything else, the MacBook does not get disconnected.
Has anyone seen such a situation before? I might have misconfigured something.
Thank you in advance for any suggestions.
Dom

In a WDS setup, everyone uses the same channel (in your case 11).
If you can run an ethernet cable from the Airport Extreme to the Airport Express you can eliminate the WDS mode and instead configure your 2 base stations for WiFi Roaming, and you can put the Airport Express on a different channel (eg. Ch1).
The Airport Express gets its connection to the router via ethernet. The Express is configured into "Bridge Mode". The Express is given the exact same SSID as the Extreme. The Express is given the exact same password as the Extreme. The Express is set to a different channel (Channel 1 would be a good choice, unless your neighbors are using that, in which case you want to be at least 5 channels away from your Extreme and any neighboring base stations with strong signals).
This will give you a Roaming setup where as your move around the house, your MacBook and MacBook Pro will automatically switch between the strongest base station, but because everyone is using the same SSID and Password, you do not loose your connections.
And each base station is using its own channel.
If you do have neighbors with strong signals, you can use something like "AP Grapher", iStumbler, KisMac, MacStumbler, etc... to see your neighbors, the chanels they are using, and the relative WiFi signal strength so you can choose the channels with the least interference.
If you can not run an ethernet cable between the Extreme and the Express, but you really like the idea of a Roaming network, then you could look into PowerLine ethernet adaptors for getting an ethernet equivalent between the 2 base stations.

MacBook and MacBook Pro Battery Update

http://www.apple.com/support/macbook_macbookpro/batteryupdate/
Apple has recently discovered that some batteries used in its MacBook and MacBook Pro notebooks may have battery performance issues. Apple is offering a software update that is designed to improve battery performance.
The battery update is available immediately via Software Update or downloadable here.
Note: The factors causing the performance issues do not present a safety risk. You may continue to use your current battery.
This battery update should be run on all MacBook and MacBook Pro computers and extra batteries that were purchased between February 2006 and April 2007.
If, after you have installed the battery update, your battery has any of the symptoms listed below, please make a reservation to bring your computer with its battery to your local Apple Retail Store, or contact an Apple Authorized Service Provider (AASP), or call your local Apple Support Contact Center. If Apple or an AASP determines that your battery is eligible for replacement, you will receive a new battery, free of charge, even if your MacBook or MacBook Pro is out of warranty.
For MacBook and MacBook Pro systems with Intel Core Duo processors, this program extends repair coverage on the battery for up to two years from the date of purchase of the computer.
Identifying an affected battery
Affected batteries will have one or more of the following symptoms:
Battery is not recognized causing an “X” to appear in the battery icon in the Finder menu bar.
Battery will not charge when computer is plugged into AC power.
Battery exhibits low charge capacity/runtime when using a fully charged battery with a battery cycle count (as shown in System Profiler) of less than 300.
Battery pack is visibly deformed.
Note: If your MacBook or MacBook Pro battery does not have any of the symptoms noted above, your battery does not need to be replaced.
Next Steps
To participate in this worldwide program, your MacBook or MacBook Pro battery must show the symptoms noted above. If it does, please make a reservation to bring your computer and battery to your local Apple Retail Store, or contact an Apple Authorized Service Provider (AASP), or call your local Apple Support Contact Center. The U.S. support number is 1-800-275-2273. If you are located outside the U.S., please see Apple's international contact list for your local Apple Technical Support phone number. An Apple technical support representative or an Apple Authorized Service Provider (AASP) will determine if the battery is eligible for replacement, free of charge. Customers are responsible for transportation costs to eligible AASPs and retail stores.
If a replacement battery is sent to you via airmail, it is important that you return the older battery to Apple so that it can be properly recycled.
This program extends repair coverage on the battery for up to two years from the date of purchase of the computer for Intel Core Duo-based MacBook and MacBook Pro computers. Apple will continue to evaluate the battery update program and will provide further extensions as needed. Apple also reserves the right to modify the program if other solutions that address the battery performance issues become available.

For MacBook and MacBook Pro systems with Intel Core Duo processors, this program extends repair coverage on the battery for up to two years from the date of purchase of the computer.
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Do me a favor. So many users are experiencing this (no myself though) and I have suggested so many things with nothing constantly working. There are successes here and there, but nothing consistently solves the problem. However, try the following in Airport Utility and both Macs, and then let us know what happens.
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I'm wondering if either or both Airport Utility & Network Prefs have proper DNS server settings. Try this
Launch Airport Utility.
Select TC on left.
Click "Manual Setup".
Select "Internet" from the toolbar above.
What's listed for "DNS Server(s):"?
Try putting in these servers from OpenDNS
208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220
Click "Update".
Your TC will restart with the new settings.
Next, launch System Prefs --> Network Prefs.
Select the service you usually connect with on the left (Airport or Ethernet).
Then click, "Advance..."
Click the "DNS" tab.
What's listed for "DNS Server(s):"?
Usually "10.0.1.1" will be listed first in gray. This refers back to the settings in the Airport Utility.
Nevertheless, it doesn't hurt to add the DNS servers noted above here as well.
Click "OK" then click "Apply".
Finally, reboot your Mac.
Now see if you have internet access all around.
Let us know if this resolves your issue.
Cheers!

Apple MagSafe Airline Adapter for MacBook and MacBook Pro

Does the Apple MagSafe Airline Adapter for MacBook and MacBook Pro work in cars to in the cigerete lighter and how does it work on a airoplane cause in airoplanes there is only a mike connection thats about it ?

This is an alternative solution that works great for me. I always carry a small and lightweight DC to AC converter with me in my case when I'm on the road. It's a Wagan Tech Smart AC 100 USB that I picked up at Costco for under 20 bucks. 100 watt capability and allows me to use all my electronics and chargers on the road. I can use it to charge the cellphone, laptop, ipod, etc.
Even includes a USB port on the side for charging USB based products and also includes the aircraft adaptor (and of course a cigarette lighter adaptor) and everything fits into a small cloth bag (included).
http://www.wagan.com/htmls/detail-2382.html
The link is for the newer 120 watt version but it looks identical otherwise. If you don't have access to Costco then check the link provided for either direct purchase or the availability of other resellers. There's a "where to buy" tab at the top of the screen. Cheers!
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Same power adapter for Macbook and Macbook Pro?

We have a new Macbook and Macbook Pro in the house and I was wondering if the power adapters were interchangeable. I noticed in the store there are two different adapters for sale, but the ones we have appear to be the same or similar. I feel almost certain we can use them with either computer.
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Docking Station for the MacBook and MacBook Pro

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I was wondering if anyone has concrete information on whether on not the un-coustomizable, internal workings of the MacBook and MacBook Pro are different, such as the motherboard, logic board, other interfaces, etc.
I have been talking with Apple reps and none have been able to give me a deffinate answer or written proof. Does anyone have info. supporting or refuting the statement that MacBooks and MacBook Pros are condigured/maunfactured with the same parts, aside from the Video Card?
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Macbook and Logic Pro Information

Folks, I currently own a 1.8 dual G5 and run the latest version of Logic Pro on it and it runs fine.
However, I'm looking to get a laptop in addition, to make the whole thing more mobile and was wondering whether I would be able to get the latest macbook (not Pro) and effectively run the latest version of Logic Pro on it? I'd be putting 2 Gig of Ram in it and have at least a 120 gig HD.
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Hello everyone ,i have macbook and macbook pro 15,so my question is can i use magsafe 60v charger to charge my macbook pro which having 85v magsafe but not in working condition.

hello everyone ,i have macbook and macbook pro 15,so my question is can i use magsafe 60v charger to charge my macbook pro which having 85v magsafe but not in working condition.

mangesh171 wrote:
my question is can i use magsafe 60v charger to charge my macbook pro which having 85v magsafe but not in working condition.
No.
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“Power adapters for Intel-based Apple notebooks are available in 45W, 60W, and 85W varieties. Although you should always use the proper wattage adapter for your Apple notebook, you can use an adapter of a higher wattage without issue.”
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2346
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The new Macbooks and MacBook Pros - Firewire being phased out?

Hi,
Many thanks in advance for your attention.
With the latest release of MacBooks and MacBook Pros, does it seem to anyone else that Firewire is being phased out? Even the new iPod Touch's cannot be charged via a Firewire cable.
(The first iPod Touch has a Firewire/ USB compatible dock).
I am somewhat baffled as a year ago Firewire was all the rage for Video Editing. It had a better reputation for sustained transfer of data and not dropping frames.
(Critical with video editing).
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The new MacBooks don't even have a Firewire port.
The new 15" MacBook Pro has only a port for Firewire 800.
Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
Should I begin shifting my external drives to USB 2.0 connectivity?
Even though USB 2.0's reputation for transferring Video is not very good?
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Ross Corsair wrote:
I am somewhat baffled as a year ago Firewire was all the rage for Video Editing. It had a better reputation for sustained transfer of data and not dropping frames.
(Critical with video editing).
When importing video from FireWire-based camcorders, the video is sent in real time to the computer, which is why FireWire is necessary. That's because FireWire-based devices use tape to record video (DV or HDV), which cannot be accessed in the same way as memory cards or hard drives (the camcorder can't rewind during capture).
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The new 15" MacBook Pro has only a port for Firewire 800.
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