Mail 2.1.3 on Tiger: mutiples of everything is driving me crazy!

Hi, I recently had to reformat my hard drive and thus have been trying to reinstall all my email accounts (which I had backed up). I am using MAIL 2.1.3.
I have several questions (this is driving me crazy!!):
When I imported the archived files, it created new mailboxes but DID NOT reinstall my mail in it's corresponding email account file (i.e: i have an email account for incoming mail with "username", and then far below I have a mailbox (for EACH account, and I have about 7) which contains all my old mail. I can't seem to merge the two.
When I recreated my useraccounts (most of which are gmail), I followed online instructions and created all my accounts using IMAP, since my first attempt using the POP version of these same accounts would NOT SEND OUT any of my Gmail mail. Now, for EACH ACCOUNT, not only do I have a "regular mailbox", I have the same "imported" from my old version, AND a third folder under "IMAP".... All this is REALLY driving me crazy!!
All I want to achieve is what i had before : one version of each of my email accounts, including Gmail, that both recieve AND send mail. Nothing more.
On the my other computer (leopard) Mail configures itself and everything works: it's bliss!!!
Can anyone help me clear up this mess (also because as a result everything is SLOW!!)
Infinite thanks,
Nicaru

Thanks BDAqua, Unfortunately I did not do a very good job explaining myself.
I am not trying to sync two computers (Tiger/Leopard). The Leopard comment was just me venting that it was so much a better program than Tiger....
No, what I want is simply to recreate my Mail Client the way it looked before: with one inbox per username, a single Sent/Draft/Outgoing mailbox and that's all!!
Instead for each username I have "normal" Inboxes, PLUS imported folders (each with their own Inbox/Sent/Draft mailboxes) PLUS IMAP folders again with their own individual Inbox/Sent/Draft mailboxes). My homepage when I open Mail contains something like 21 folders, whereas I only want the 7 (one per username).
This whole thing came about because when I tried to import my old mailboxes (pre-formatting my mac) they imported as separate folders whereas I wanted them to merge into their respective accounts.
The other issue I had (originally) which led to this mess is that none of my Gmail accounts would SEND mail (receiving is Ok) so I followed the online IMAP instructions and this is where I got triplets....
Gosh, I don't know how else to explain it... If it's still not clear perhaps I should just erase everything and start from scratch??
Thanks again,
Nicaru

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    1.) go to your home folder and MOVE the mailboxes to the desktop -
    • Home>Library>Mail
    2.) Move "Mail" Folder to desktop
    3.) Reopen Mail.app
    4.) Setup account settings with no existing mailboxes
    5.) Wait
    • Allow mailboxes to download or set up any existing mail from mail servers
    6.) Take ALL accounts OFFLINE after mail is downloaded from servers - disable network activity before importing old mailboxes
    7.) Import OLD Mailboxes
    • File>Import Mailboxes...
    • Import data from "mac os x mailboxes" OR "mbox files"
    8.) Wait
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    9.) If you have duplicates I highly reccomend using these apple scripts from aamann to resolve any additional issues:
    • http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/Mail_Scripts.html
    Apple Scripts:
    Add Addresses (Mail)
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    Archive Messages (Mail)
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    Change SMTP Server (Mail)
    * Switch between different already defined SMTP servers or define a new one. This is especially useful if you are using your computer in more than one location and have to switch servers for several accounts at once.
    Create Rule (Mail)
    * Create a new rule based on the first of the selected messages. This saves you the trouble of copy/pasting address or other info between the message and the rule window and provides a much quicker way for setting up a rule with multiple criteria/actions.
    Remove Duplicates (Mail)
    * Locate all duplicate messages found in the selected mailbox(es) and move them to a separate mailbox for easy removal (duplicate matching is based on the unique message header "Message-Id").
    Schedule Delivery (Mail)
    * Allows you to send individual messages at predefined times (this script uses iCal for scheduling message delivery).
    Send all Drafts (Mail)
    * Immediately send all messages in the "Drafts" folders for all accounts. This saves you from having to open each draft in order to send it.
    Open Mailbox, Open Message (Mail)
    * Two small faceless scripts which will open mailboxes with new messages or the new messages themselves when run as a rule action.
    Filter Sent Messages (Mail)
    * Another faceless scripts which will apply your rules to the messages in the "Sent" mailbox.
    Export Addresses (Address Book)
    * Export addresses from the Address Book into tab-delimited text files. You can select which groups and which fields you want to export.
    Search Addresses (Address Book)
    * Find all addresses inside the Address Book matching one or more criteria. As opposed to the "Search" function built into the Address Book, this lets you search in any field as well as for empty and non-empty fields (Note: due to a bug in the Address Book's AppleScript implementation, "First Name" will always return a non-empty value for system versions of at least up to 10.3.2 - I have reported this bug to Apple and hope that they fix it with the next system update).
    * As an example, you might use this script to search for all phone numbers with a certain area code in order to update your contacts after an area code change.
    Good Luck,
    Hope this helps!
    Samantha S.

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    3. Create a new folder on the Desktop and name it however you wish (e.g. Inbox Old). It doesn't need to have an .mbox extension.
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