Many small probs with my K8N Neo

Specs:
K8N Neo Platinum w/ newest version of BIOS (I checked)
1 GB PC3200 Kingston RAM (2x512MB)
ATI brand Radeon 9700 pro 128MB
60.0GB Maxtor 5400RPM HD
500w Viomax PSU (30A on +3.3V, 50A on +5V, 25A on 12V)
No other PCI cards installed at the moment
Problems:
1. My computer won't restart. Whenever Windows calls for a restart or I hit the button myself, the screen goes blank while everything else stays active. People here told me it was my PSU. My Radeon 9700 Pro requires an extra floppy power cable so I thought I'd test out another video card that didn't need extra power to see what would happen. My comp worked fine with a 9200. So I bought a 500w Viomax PSU, a cheap one, yes, but it got good reviews. I stuck it in there and my comp STILL wouldn't restart normally. It has changed however: it'll restart the 3rd or 4th time I hit the button, but never the first..... which it definitely should.
2. My HD wasn't recognized by my mobo. After doing the first part of installing WinXP pro, my computer restarted (well, I had to switch the PSU off then on again to get it to work) but then I got "Error loading operating system." After a while of trial and error I arbitrarily changed the "Access Mode" in CMOS to "Large" instead of "Auto". Bingo, it worked, yay. Even though it works now, I still don't like the idea that my mobo couldn't automatically recognize my HD. I tested different ribbon cables and other HDs that I knew worked fine in other computers but they all wouldn't work in mine unless I put the setting on Large. hmmm.
3. The supplied nVidia IDE driver slows down my computer and causes Video Errors. The windows logo takes FOREVER to show up (or it will freeze in the middle of its fading it for 10-15s) when those IDE drivers are installed. As soon as I uninstall them everythings chipper though. Note that this problem is IDE, which might go along with why my HD isn't recognized.
4. When I open GoodMem, a memory manager/monitor that came with the mobo, my computer drastically slows down to a point where it's literally not usable. If I close GoodMem, it goes back to normal. I tried out a 256MB stick of my sisters just to see what happens and what'da ya know, GoodMem works perfectly.
I've never built a computer before and all this really makes me wanna RMA my board....... so here's the big question.... SHOULD I?
Thanks everyone,
-Robert Lee

Hi
sounds more like a Disk prob, or Windows prob than Mobo or CPU,
Did you format the HDD on this comp, if it was formatted on another machine, it can cause it not to be recognised.
Virus or Spy progs can slow down a comp,  Try Task Manager, Ctrl +Alt + del, see what procs are running, if there is a strange unknown one it may be cause. If you go to the processor heading, the proc idling should not be using much CPU time, if something is using a lot of CPU time and is not essential, close it and see if it helps.
For the HDD, try disk management. Right click My computer, then manage then disk management, you will see if disk are healthy, you can also check them for probs.
May need defraged, and Chkdsk run.
In device Manager, does the IDE HDD show as OK, no yellow marks. You could try updating driver,
cheers
jocko

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    I've been really lucky with this OCing and putting stuff together. I'm self taught and 45. I got burnt in 1999 with a compaq presario 500mhz. I'm very poor and started reading. I did have a MSI board but can't remember what it was. Never used the new MB. OOOHHH... I just found the disk. It was a MSI M6340M.
    Thanks for the help so far and in the future. I am really tired of OC'ing the 2600+ mobile. Have I made it to the 64 group!?
    "I am trying to find the thread that was moved to the BIOS section? Can't find it."
    its in User modified BIOS since discuss modded BIOSes: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=105339.msg776983#msg776983
    "I've been really lucky with this OCing and putting stuff together. I'm self taught and 45. I got burnt in 1999 with a compaq presario 500mhz. I'm very poor and started reading. I did have a MSI board but can't remember what it was. Never used the new MB. OOOHHH... I just found the disk. It was a MSI M6340M."
    if you need OC tips open a new thread into OC section. btw what kind of board is that M6340M? sound like OEM product cannot find info as well.

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