Mapping in BPM
Hey guys
suppose i m doin a async FIle to File sceenario using BPM(jst for educational purpose)both sender and receiver have different structure.
here is how i m trying to design this scenario
DATATYPES
DT_sender ,DT_receiver
MESSAGETYPES
MT_sender,MT_receiver
MESSAGE INTERFACE
Outbound async,Abstract async,Inbound,async,Abstract,async.
MESSAGE MAPPING
Outbound async<-> Abstract asyn (mapping 1) and Inbound asyn<->Abstract async.(mapping 2).
INTERFACE MAPPING
Outbound ayns<-> Abstract asyn(using mapping 1) and Inbound asyn<->Abstract async.(using mapping 2)
and then in BPM
Start>>Receive>>Send>>Stop.
Please let me know if my design serves the purpose.my main concern is for message mapping and interface mappin.
is it because BPM takes care of mapping that we dont define a mapping between Abstract<->Abstract interface?
also will the flow be something like this
DT_sender>>MT_sender>>Outbound async>>Abstract async>>BPM>>Abstract async>>Inbound async>>MT_receiver>>DT_receiver
thanx
ahmad
Hi Ahmad -
>>>why i m making just one abstract interface even my sender and receiver are different
In your scenario, you're not really doing anything within the BPM (just a pass through from Receive step to Send step). In that sense, you can essentially accomplish this scenario without having BPM in between at all - same result if you take BPM out. But since you're just testing and getting a feel for it, this is fine.
<i>>>>why i m makin that one abstract interface make use of target message type of mapping</i>
Before message is sent to BPM, you mentioned you're going to have a mapping. Since you're BPM process is the receiver initially, the process will receive mapped message.
><i>>>Message mappin
>>>DT_sender<->DT_receiver</i>
Use MTs here.
Regards,
Jin
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Duplicate Message ID issue in case of Multi mapping (without BPM)
Hi Experts,
I am doing one sample Example for my requirement of converting the single source message data into the multiple Target messages.
for example, when sender system is sending the 5 sale order details into a single message in PI then my Inbound proxy class of ECC R/3 receiver system must get this sale orders separately, that means inbound proxy class method must be triggered separately for 5 sale orders from sender system. for achieving this, I have used the Multi mapping concept in ESR (without BPM).
This scenario is in Asynchronous mode.
The below screen shots give the details on what I have configures so far.
IN ESR
IN ID
IN SXMB_MONI of PI
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due to this error, inbound Proxy class method is not being triggered for the single Sale order details as well,
please let me know how to tackle this duplicate message ID issue when we have multiple payloads to process in a single message.
please also let me know if is there any other workaround to fulfil this requirement.
Thank you,
Regards,
JageshHi Nunu,
Check the below blog for restrictions.
Multi-Mapping without BPM - Yes, it’s possible!
Restrictions
Messages that result from the split in a mapping-based message split are sent using one AE. So only adapters running on the AE are supported. In particular, this means that target IDOC message splits are not supported since the IDOC adapter is not part of the AE.
Regards,
Praveen. -
Hi ,
I am following this weblog
/people/jin.shin/blog/2006/02/07/multi-mapping-without-bpm--yes-it146s-possible
but stuck up with what are the fields contained by ID in target message2 ...
Please check this for your clarification
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11212307@N08/1135395357/
Thanks
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Regards
Sreeram.G.Reddy -
Different options for message mapping in BPM
Hey guys
i m in the learning phase of BPM and am kinda confused with the different ways we can do message mapping in a BPM scenario.
first of all we can do message mapping before BPM,we can also do after BPM and lastly we can do inside BPM(ofcurse this is not recommended as its too resource consuming)
i have bene through starters blog on BPM by Krishna moorthy and Arpit seth,and now am wondering how to use the mapping in diff. ways
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DT_sender_File DT_receiver_File
MT_sender_File MT_receiver_File
MI_Outbound_sender(async,outbound), MI_Inbound_receiver(async,inbound)
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now i want to clear some doubts about interface mapping.my understanding is
if i do interface mapping between MI_Outbound_sender and AI_receiver,this will be interface mapping before BPM.
if i do interface mapping between AI_sender and MI_Inbound_receiver,this will be interafce mapping after BPM
and if i do interface mapping between AI_sender and AI_receiver then it will be mapping inside BPM.
is my understanding correct?if yes,then does that means we can we any of the above mapping in our scenario.(if we dont consider the performance issue as of now)
thanx
saifHi Saif,
<i>
is my understanding correct?</i>
Yes, thts correct
<i>if yes,then does that means we can we any of the above mapping in our scenario</i>
Of course, u can use any of them (overlooking the performance issue)
Regards,
Prateek -
Hi All,
Is it possible to do N:1 mapping without BPM in PI 7.1 ?
Thanks and regards
UmaHi,
>Yeah, It is possible.
how can it be possible based on ANY requirement ?
you just cannot receive many messages into PI and bundle them into
one without BPM - and this is final
can you tell the way if you know how to do it without a BPM
in any (even very specific) scenario ?
thanks,
Regards,
Michal Krawczyk -
Error: 1:n multi-mapping using BPM for file to file scenario
Hi. Iu2019m trying to do 1:n multi-mapping using bpm scenario. I use file to file. Input file consists of many records and then I want many record to be transformed into many file at target system. I follow step in http://www.riyaz.net/blog/xipi-1n-multi-mapping-using-bpm/. However, I have a problem when file is retrieved in to XI. It doesnu2019t create any output file.
When I look at SXMB_MONI, it shows u201CNo object type found for the message Check that the corresponding process is activated.u201D Besides, it shows error message "Unable to perform action for selected message" when i clikc at PE in SXMB_MONI.
I have check at many previous posts with the same error message but still couldnu2019t solve it. I already activate my BPM and check that status in SXI_CACHE = 0. There is noting left in change list of my IR and ID.
Here is my design and configuration.
IR
Data Type: DT_file_split -> for both input and output file
Message Type: MT_file_split_sender, MT_file_split_receiver
Message Interface: SI_file_split_in, SI_file_split_out, SI_file_abs_source, SI_file_abs_target
Message mapping: MM_file_split for mapping MT_file_split_sender with MT_file_split_receiver
Interface mapping: OM_file_split
u2022 Source = SI_file_split_out
u2022 Target = SI_file_split_in
u2022 Mapping Program = MM_file_split
BPM following this link http://www.riyaz.net/blog/xipi-1n-multi-mapping-using-bpm/.
ID
Import my Integration process
2 Communication Channel for getting input file (CC_File_split_sender) and creating output file (CC_File_split)
2 Receiver determination:
u2022 Source system to BPM using interface SI_File_Abs_source
u2022 BPM to target system using interface SI_File_Abs_target
1 Interface determination:
u2022 from source system to BPM
u2022 Sender interface: SI_File_Split_Out
u2022 Receiver interface: SI_file_abs_source
1 Sender Agreement
u2022 Commu. Component: Source System
u2022 Using interface: SI_File_Abs_source
u2022 Sender Communication Channel: CC_File_Split_Sender
1 Receiver Agreement
u2022 Sender Communication Component: BPM
u2022 Receiver Communication Component: Target System
u2022 Receiver Interface: SI_File_Split_In
u2022 Receiver Communication Channel: CC_File_Split
Anyone know how to fix this?
Thanks,
PavinHi,
Yes, thats the problem.
You are creating file from test tab of 1..N mapping .
In case of 1..N mappping in mapping Extra tags of messages are addded to the data.As shown here:-
Messages
Message1
MessageType
When you use this mapping to generate xml message then it will add additional tags for <Messages> and <Message1>, which is not correct. it should only have structure of you MT.
So remove start and end tag of <Messages> and <Message1> from your data file. Mentioned below in bold.
<xml......>
<Messages>
<Message1>
<MT_...>
</MT_...>
</Message1>
</Messages>
This should solve your problem.
Regards,
Sami. -
1:N mapping without BPM ( Idoc Receiver)
Hi,
I have a scenario like 1:N, source would be JMS and the receiver side have two Idocs with the same business system. based on one Item segment value, I need to route the input JMS message to corresponding receiver IDoc.
INput Structure:
Record
Header 1..1
H1
H2
H3
Item 1..Unbounded
I1
I2
I3
NOte: Based on value I2, I need to route the message to corresponding receiver Idoc. like If I2=A then Idoc1 and I2=B then Idoc2. Can we achieve the same without using BPM?
-EshaHi,
This can be achieved with Interface Determination conditions. Go for 2 mapping. And in Interface Determination put condition to check which mapping to use. No need of ccBPM.
If you still want to go for 1:N multimapping please refer link:
/people/jin.shin/blog/2006/02/07/multi-mapping-without-bpm--yes-it146s-possible
without BPM.
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Vineetha.
Edited by: Vineetha on Apr 27, 2010 11:44 AM -
The question about Interface Mapping in BPM
Hello,
I am a few confused about an Interface Mapping in BPM at the Design step.
I have a task to transmit and trasform two messages of two sender file adapter to two IDOCs messages and then to send them to SAP system.
I use BPM.
But I don't understand what types of message interfaces should I use for source and target interfaces in Interface Mapping? As to the target interface I understand it must be abstract but which of interfaces exactly?
Actually there are some questions here:
1) If the source interface should be abstract or real in Interface Mapping?
2) If the target interface should be the abstract interface of Receive Step object or the abstract interface of Send Step object?
3) And what the message types should I use for the source and target message interfaces in Interface Mapping? If I understand correctly that these message typeshi igor,
you have to import the IDOC Types under the imported objects in the integration repository objects,
what are all the data that coming out from the file adapter, you design the datatype.
the target IDOC should be real and you do the mapping for the all necessary fields.
refer: --
File to IDOC:
Re: how to Sending XML data to idoc
IDOC Mapping:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_crm40/helpdata/en/77/a1d48b1ce06d40932e0a26f3c117ce/frameset.htm -
Error in Multi-mapping without BPM
Hi frnds,
I am doing a scenario File-XI-File. I am using the multi-splitting thing in the Message mapping. I have taken care of all the occurance's and "enhanced" thing in the IR and ID resp. I m using SP16. I want to avoid BPM.
But therez sme error cming up. When I check the MONI, its shwing "No messages created from split mapping" and when I test my interface using the Test Configuration in the ID, its shwing error in the Receiver Determination -- "HTTP connection to ABAP Runtime failed. Error: 403 Forbidden"
I have checked most of the blogs and forum suggestions. I have checked the ICF activations as well ...
So, do come back to me with your valuable suggestions, and I will award them points, if they really help me out.
Thanks and regards.
NeeteshHi Neetesh,
<i>
When I check the MONI, its shwing "No messages created from split mapping"</i>
For this, Can you check the source XML. Does it contain Tags like <messages> .. If yes, you need to remove them from your source XML.
If i am right, you have copied the XML from the TEST tab of the message mapping and pasted it in a notepad and saved it without making any changes at all..... Just do as i have mentioned above and i am sure you will no more get that error message in your MONI....
Also go through this weblog which talks about multi-mapping without BPM,
/people/jin.shin/blog/2006/02/07/multi-mapping-without-bpm--yes-it146s-possible
Regards,
Abhy -
I often see a point from XI-Legends that a Message Mapping should be executed out side the BPM and that will make the XI performance good.
How to do a Message Mapping outside BPM? What does it mean?
Any Blog that narrates the above situation?
Thanks.Data Types
Source/Sender Data Format --- DT_Sender File
Target/Receiver Data Format -- DT_Receiver
Message Types
Sender Message Type - MT_SenderFile
Receiver Message Type - MT_ReceiverFile
Message Interface
MI_OB_Sender(Async, Outbound) MI_IB_Receiver(Asynch,Inbound)
AI_Sender(Async, Abstract) AI_Receiver(Async,Abstract)
So
if the mappaing is done between
MI_OB_Sender To AI_Receiver (Its Before BPM)
AI_Sender To MI_IB_Receiver (Its After BPM)
AI_Sender to AI_Receiver (Its inside BPM)
Whether my understanding is correct? Thanks for your patience. -
Hi Experts,
Can anyone send me a scenario which contains multi-mapping using BPM (collect pattern)........I searched on SDN but cudn't find any scenario which contains Multi-Mapping BPM scenarios. All the scenarios which r available based on without BPM.............points will given to the approriate replies.
Thanks in Advance
FaisalHey
strange you didn't find it,it was the second link when i searched SDN with the string "multimapping BPM"
/people/sudharshan.aravamudan/blog/2005/12/01/illustration-of-multi-mapping-and-message-split-using-bpm-in-sap-exchange-infrastructure
Thanx
Aamir -
Hello Friends,
I need some help about this mapping issue.
input file :
<SOAP:Envelope xmlns:SOAP="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/">
<SOAP:Header></SOAP:Header>
<SOAP:Body>
<Object_1>
<ID>12222333444</ID>
<points>50</points>
</Object_1>
<Object_1>
<ID>12222333555</ID>
<points>20</points>
</Object_1>
<Object_1>
<ID>1222233777</ID>
<points>10</points>
</Object_1>
</SOAP:Body>
</SOAP:Envelope>
output file1 :
<SOAP:Envelope xmlns:SOAP="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/">
<SOAP:Header></SOAP:Header>
<SOAP:Body>
<Object_1>
<ID>12222333444</ID>
<points>50</points>
</Object_1>
</SOAP:Body>
</SOAP:Envelope>
output file 2 :
<SOAP:Envelope xmlns:SOAP="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/">
<SOAP:Header></SOAP:Header>
<SOAP:Body>
<Object_1>
<ID>12222333555</ID>
<points>20</points>
</Object_1>
</SOAP:Body>
</SOAP:Envelope>
output file 3 :
<SOAP:Envelope xmlns:SOAP="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/">
<SOAP:Header></SOAP:Header>
<SOAP:Body>
<Object_1>
<ID>1222233777</ID>
<points>10</points>
</Object_1>
</SOAP:Body>
</SOAP:Envelope>
Best regards,
FKI think you have not followed the blog properly for your requirement.
for example: Source File is like this.
<Records>
<FirstName>Sarvesh</FirstName>
<LastName>Singh</LastName>
<Dept>SAP</Dept>
<EmpID>12345</EmpID>
<Domain>technical conslultant</Domain>
<Experience>5 years</Experience>
</Records>
'N' Target Structure are
<Records>
<EmpName>
<FirstName>Sarvesh</FirstName>
<LastName>Singh</LastName>
</EmpName>
</Records>
<Records>
<EmpDetail>
<Dept>SAP</Dept>
<EmpID>12345</EmpID>
<Domain>technical conslultant</Domain>
<Experience>5 years</Experience>
<EmpDetail>
</Records>
So if you think your requirement is as per the above examples then follow /people/jin.shin/blog/2006/02/07/multi-mapping-without-bpm--yes-it146s-possible blog.
Regards,
Sarvesh -
1:N Mapping without BPM - Inbound Structure
Hello,
I know that a 1:N Mapping without BPM should be possible with newer releases. I tried to do so and set the occurences in the signature tab of message mapping to 1:N.
However the problem I am facing right now is that a new <Messages> element is wrapped around the source structure. So the incoming message is not valid anymore and therefore the target structure is empty. How should this be handled? Does the source system need to add a new <messages> root element or is ccBPM not avoidable in my case?
Thank you!Hi Guppenberger,
I understand your doing 1:N mapping without BPM.
There is no need to added the message wrapper when you are testing your scenario end to end. But if you are testing your message mapping alone, wrapper is required in test tab of Message Mapping. Please refer this blow [Link|/people/ranga.rajan2/blog/2010/03/17/multi-mapping-with-a-simple-scenario--fledgling-kit ], have a look at payload screenshot. I suggest you to check you payload (for end to end testing) and mapping logic again.
Regards,
Raghu_Vamsee -
How to check data after mapping for BPM if the mapping done outside BPM ?
Hi.
I have simple scenario BPM. Proxy -
> JDBC. I have 1 message mapping in between PROXY and JDBC.
and i have put the mapping outside the BPM (i didn' use transformation step). In case error happen. how i can see the data after the mapping ? i am always got difficulty to check the data if i have mapping outside bpm.
Thank you
FernandHi
In case error happen. how i can see the data after the mapping ?
You have used mapping in interface determination of corresponding receiver determination. In transaction SXMB_MONI, open message corresponding to that receiver determination. There in left hand side you will see IS pipeline steps. There if you want to see message payload that is input to Mapping than see payload of any pipeline step before Request Message Mapping and test it in Design. If mapping fails you can see trace of the same step.
Request Message Mapping ---> SOAP Header ---> Trace
There you can see where your mapping failed.
And as rohit replied you can also get message from RWB.
For further clarification revert back to us.
Regards
Sami
Reward points if helpful. -
Hi Experts
How to do value mapping with BPM.
I tried searching for blogs in SDN but i didnt get any solution
Regards
SowmyaHi,
Your question is not very clear. Let me know how you want to use Value mapping?
You can implement value mapping in two ways..
1. Value Mapping Replecation Method, in which we create ABAP program (outbound proxy) in R3 which selects data from R3 tables and sends into XI, and which get stored in XI JAVA Cache untill you run the ABAP program next time which is very rare. This kind of method is best when you have large amount of R3 data.
2. If you have some data which is used just to varify the conditions at run time then in that case we go for Value Mapping creation in Integration Directiory. Below mentiond blog will give an idea how to use Value mapping in ID.
/people/community.user/blog/2007/01/08/valuemapping-using-the-graphical-mapping-tool
Value Mapping is used in Graphical Mapping which gives the value at run time only, so you cannot test it in TEST Tab of message mapping.
So as per you question, BPM can come into picture later on after you maintain the value mapping in ID and do the corresponding mapping in IR.
Regards,
Sarvesh -
BPM Idoc collection without calling the mapping in BPM
Hi Expert,
I have an IDOC to file scenario in which source side I have to collect multiple IDOC and map it to a single file .I am achieving it through BPM . at present I am using one multimapping and calling this mapping in the BPM under transformation step its working fine but due to some constraint , Now I want to achieve it using BPM but without calling the Mapping in the BPM i.e I don't want to use Transformation step in the BPM. Is it possible ????
Regards,
SaurabhHi Saurabh,
If that is the case it is preferable to collect the IDocs in ECC and then send them to XI at one go.
Cheers !
Lokesh
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