Matrox MXO or Blackmagic Intensity Pro?

I just bought the Dell 2408 monitor, which I like thus far, and am looking to use it as both a second computer monitor and also an NTSC preview monitor in conjunction with FCP. Playing via S-video on my DSR-11 looks positively terrible- so what's the best solution? Intensity Pro? Matrox?

are you suggesting that this is counterproductive?
The MXO/ACD combination isn't recommended for standard definition monitoring. It is only recommended for high definition. For SD ou can use the MXO in combination with an SD broadcast monitor...but the MXO/ACD is not a good solution for standard definition viewing.
Per the Vortex EX-1 video, they suggest editing in SD and then rendering later.
Rendering? You mean upconverting? I don't know how viable that workflow is when it comes to tapeless formats. Because they tend to only be importable at full resolution. The extra steps needed to make low res...edit...then reconnect to the full res, plus the drives you need to have both the low res and high res available is counter productive, IMHO.
Do what the others suggest...import and work at FULL HD resolution (XDCAM doesn't take up a lot of space, it is compressed HD). This way you can use your MXO and ACD to see a GREAT picture...and downconvert when you are done. The MXO does that on the fly.
The Spyder is unnecessary in combination with the MXO. The MXO has a utility to set your monitor up to bars, with a proper BLUE ONLY option. You can see how that is done in my review.
Shane

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Lag with Blackmagic Intensity Pro

I just got Adobe Prod. Premium CS6 as well as a Blackmagic Intensity Pro monitoring card and an eVGA GTX570 graphics card, and to avoid problems, I did a new Windows installation from scratch on a formatted drive. This was done today, so all the drivers and program updates are completely up to date.
I know the Intensity Pro is about the cheapest card you can get to preview video correctly on a TV set, since graphics cards don't display video in the same way as a dedicated editing card does, so I'm still happy with it, but I would like to find it if I can get around this annoyance until I can get a better card, or if perhaps it's a flaw in Premiere and a more expensive card would not make a difference.
The card has about 200 miliseconds of lag compared to the program monitor in the Premiere window. This is not really terrible, but it becomes distracting when watching the TV screen and the change of frame in a cut happens first in the computer monitor in a small window within Premiere, and a fraction of a second later on the TV screen. Also, it makes it difficult when I have to sync cuts to changes in the music. I guess in that type of situation it would be better to do the cuts on the computer monitor and then switch to the TV set for color correction.
But this is not just in regular playback. It gets worse when scrubbing the timeline, or moving with JKL. In those cases, sometimes it takes it like a second to catch up to what I see on the program monitor.
I also have a GrassValley HD Spark monitoring card for Edius that while it has a little lag, it's much shorter than this and it's not so distracting. That card was connected using the same cable to the same TV set, so that tells me the Intensity Pro has some extra lag, but it's hard to complain about it on a $190 card. However, I was wondering if anyone here has found themselves in the same problem and found a solution? I searched but so far I couldn't find anything.
And as far as these type of cards, what is the least expensive one that will give me perfect preview with no lag?

Thanks, I might try that one, although it's a bit over my budget at $660.25, but I'll have to if I don't have a choice.
What about the Matrox MXO2 Mini, has anybody tried it?
About turning off MPE GPU's acceleration, that is not an option for me. I'm used to edit in Edius, where almost everything you do is real time and you barely have to render anything ever for previewing purposes, and Edius doesn't even require an expensive Nvidia card for that, it only uses the CPU. But, it lacks several features Premiere CS6 has, especially when it comes to artistic effects. Overall I'm really hooked up on Premiere CS6, but only if I can have the same fluidness of work I always had with Edius, so I wouldn't turning off MPE. That's why I spent $280 in a new graphics card.
I really hope that this is just a matter of the BM Intensity being a cheap card and not Premiere, because this past couple of days I've been editing almost all day and while I enjoyed the editing process in Premiere, it's very frustrating to start playback and sometimes it will be fine but other times the audio and video will be out of sync, so I have to position the playhead back and start playing again. When that happens half the times you play something, it's really annoying. This is regardless of real time areas or not. To make sure of this, I forced render of an area that had no effects on it and it still has the sync problem. I had to disable auto playback after rendering because that would cause the problem every time, while if I position the playhead manually and then hit play, sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't.

Are there benefits to the Blackmagic Intensity Pro for HDV capture ?

Are there benefits to the Blackmagic Intensity Pro for HDV capture ?
I have a Sony HDR-FX1 that records in HDV 1440 x 1080
I have already captured the footage to miniDV tape.
Can the intensity card get the full 1920 x 1080 video ?
I now use Premiere to capture my video and my HDV is in mpeg2 and my SD is in DV type 2 AVI
What format does the intensity card capture at ?
Are there other ways to capture that would make the footage better.
From what I have read allot of people have had problems with these cards.
Im just looking for the best way to get the footage off my camera with the best resolution.
Thanks: Glenn

Glenn,
I have posted this before in the PC Buying Guide (post #23 and later), but have a look at this diagram:
The problem is that once recorded to tape, the material is compressed to MPEG and there is no way to get the data back, that were lost during compression. The only thing you achieve is that you lose device control, lose all timecode information, lose all metadata like date and timestamp and exposure data and lose the capability of scene detection. There are no gains to compensate the losses.
Compare it to a glass of orange juice, that was made by heavily compressing oranges. How do you think you can reconstruct the original oranges that the juice came from? Were there 4 large oranges or 6 small ones or a mixture? Were they light colored or were they dark or a mixture of light and dark?
BlackMagic in their marketing may lead you to believe otherwise, but the truth is they can only guess at how many oranges were used, their size and color. It is nothing more than a guess.

SpeedGrade 2014.2 will not send output via BlackMagic Intensity Pro HDMI to my external monitor.

I occasionally can get a few pixels near the left side of the monitor, and 2014.1 would display the lower half of the frame, but now, after the 2014.2 update, I can't even get that much. Premiere is monitoring perfectly. Any suggestions welcome!

I am having the same problem. I am on Speedgrade version 2014.1 currently and it won't output to either of the monitors I've tried. Both are connected via HDMI.
One is a 22' ASUS monitor, which reads "Out of Range" when I connect it to my blackmagic Intensity Pro output. From what I've read this has to do with the frame size coming out of SP being too large for the monitor.
Next I tried to output to a 50' HD TV. I don't get the "Out of Range" message on this one, instead the monitor is black with an occasional flicker when I hover over a clip or an option in Speedgrade. By flicker I mean the screen flashes a garbled purple mess for less than a second, then goes black again.
I'm running the Creative Cloud Suite on a Mid 2012 Mac Desktop with a 2 x 2.66 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon processor, 52GB of RAM, and ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024 MB graphics card. OSX version 10.8.5.
Been waiting for this capability for a while, any advice would be much appreciated.
Thanks!
Josh

FCP capture problem with Blackmagic Intensity Pro

I just installed a Blackmagic Intensity Pro and I am having problems capturing in Final Cut Pro 6. I have a Sony VCR/DVD player with a HMDI out connection that works fine when connected to my TV. The video setting on the VCR/DVD are 720P. In FCP I have chosen the “Blackmagic HDTV Intensity Pro 720P 60 Uncompressed” capture/input setting. If I unplug the HDMI cable from the VCR/DVD and plug it back in I see the video for about 4 seconds and then just a gray screen. I have tried several video tapes all with the same results.
Any suggestions?
Dennis

I am having the same problem. I edit reels and was trying to use the higher quality HDMI input to capture video from my DVD player for client's video reels.
I could be mistake, but I do 'recall' hearing that you cannot record HDMI video (copyright issues) but only play back HDMI. We may be stuck using component.
Intensity Pro's website only mentions recording HDMI video from a camcorder with an HDMI output.
Maybe someone will clear this up for us with a definite answer. I have put a request in to Blackmagic support and will let you know what they say.
Rob

Soundtrack Pro with Blackmagic Intensity Pro Card

Hi
Just wondering if anyone was using STP with the Blackmagic Intensity Pro card to monitor video on a TV?
If so, whta are your experiences and especially does STP allow you to continue using your selected audio device (MOTU Ultralite over Firewire for me) while viewing your Quicktimes on the TV.
Thanks in advance
Gavin
gavin little
echolab
dublin, ireland
http://www.echolab.tv/
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1962022/

Hey Bill
Thanks for getting back so quick! No, I've checked the audio/midi and the default audio device is my MOTU Ultralite firewire interface - even when the default output is set to the mac's internal speaker, once you select the external video it mutes the output.
I can still see levels withing STP as if the audio is playing. There is an official Apple Support document about audio not working when you are using external video to firewire and it says that it is a bug that can be bypassed by setting your bus to surround (1-6) instead of stereo (1-2) but this has no effect for me )-:
Would love to know if it works for you! and if so, what way you have things configured
Thanks
gavin little
echolab
dublin, ireland
http://www.echolab.tv/
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1962022/

Premiere Pro with Blackmagic Intensity Pro; Importer

I'm using a Blackmagic Intensity Pro with Premiere Pro. I don't Import anything with it directly, i just use it to preview my timeline on a seperate monitor.
The issue I have is when I try to import a AVI-file to my project
before I had the Intensity Pro, Premiere would input the file as a Microsoft AVI and it worked perfectly.
But now the exact same file is imported as a Blackmagic AVI-file. now I am experiencing green bars in my video and the color information is totally screwed up.
So my question is: can I deactivate or change the Import-settings of Premiere, without to remove the Card completely (turn PC off, remove card, turn back on...)?

Ok, my workflow is:
I'm importing a video file from my hard drive via double-click or drag'n'drop. i don't capture from a video source with the intensity pro!
the specs of the video file according to premiere are:
Type: Blackmagic AVI File
File Size: 1,7 GB
Image Size: 1024 x 768
Frame Rate: 18,00
Source Audio Format: 48000 Hz - 16 bit - Stereo
Project Audio Format: 48000 Hz - 32 bit floating point - Stereo
Total Duration: 00;15;18;28
Average Data Rate: 1,9 MB / second
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1,0
############### BMD Importer Supplemental ###############
AVI File Details:
Timecode:
Reel name: ''
User timecode:
Alternative reel name: ''
Contains 1 video track(s) and 1 audio track(s).
Interleave: 1 : 1.00 (conforming required)
Video Track 1:
Size is 1.49G bytes (average frame = 94.18K bytes)
There are 16541 keyframes.
Frame rate is: 18.0000 fps
Frame size is: 1024 x 768
Video format is 'MJPG' 422 8-bit ITU-R 709
Audio Track 2:
Size is: 168.2637M bytes
Rate is: 48000 samples/sec
Sample size is: 16 bits
I've tried importing the video file at a friend's pc with premiere pro 5.5 and there the file works just fine. so I'm assuming that it has to do with the intensity pro...
It has the same properties execpt under Type there is "Microsoft AVI File" and everything beneath Pixel Aspect Ratio isn't there.
Thanks

Anyone using Blackmagic Intensity Pro with Premiere CS4

I've looked through the threads and have seen similar postings, but no real good answers. Is anyone using Blackmagic Intensity Pro to viiew timeline on a HDTV using the HDMI connector?
I purchasedf the Intensity Pro and can't get it to work with CS4. Any assistance would be appreciated.

If you're using a Core i7 processor, one of the problems might be with the motherboard. There's only one Intel board that BM has approved (sorry, don't have the model in front of me -- on a piece of scratch paper in my wife's car).
I'm looking to build a new system myself and have been looking at the Intensity Pro card as well. The main feature I'm looking for is real-time preview and program output to an HD monitor that I'd hook up via HDMI. I probably also would use it to capture analog sources for audio and video. I don't have any interest in BM's lossless data capture as it creates monster-sized files. That's why I was also planning to add Cineform once it's fully approved and working for CS4. However, as best as I can tell, the Intensity Pro card doesn't recognize the Cineform codec on the timeline. Does anyone know if and how well these two will function together within Premiere? (I'm also assuming that the new 4.1 release might make these types of Premiere add-ons work better.)
Thanks.

Using the Blackmagic Intensity Pro Shuttle (Thunderbolt)

Can I use my Blackmagic Intensity Pro Shuttle (Thunderbolt) with anything other than a thunderbolt port? I have a Macbook Pro that has the thunderbolt port (which is why I purchased the thunderbolt shuttle) but I would also like trying to use it with my older iMac that does not have a thunderbolt port. Will using some sort of thunderbolt to firewire/usb 3.0 converter work in this case?
Thank you in advance!

No and the only other model they make is for USB 3. If your other Mac doesn't have TB it doesn't have USB 3.

FMLE + blackmagic intensity pro: Cannot adjust framerate

Using FMLE with blackmagic design intensity pro on windows 7 professional with 720p60 input, I am unable to adjust framerate from the default input value.
I want to set framerate to 30fps but the encoded output (H.264/VP6) is always 60fps.
Using ffmpeg along with bmdcapture tool, I am able to encode 500kbps, 30fps correctly.
Following are some of the FMLE configuration settings I have tried with Intensity pro:
1. Input=1280x720, Framerate=30fps, bitrate=500kbps, output size=720x576.
Result observed on statistics screen and also verified by dumping the content: output bitrate=1Mbps, Framerate=60fps.
2. Input=1280x720, Framerate=60fps, bitrate=500kbps, output size=720x576.
Result observed on statistics screen and also verified by dumping the content: output bitrate=500kbps, Framerate=60fps.
The output framerate remains unchanged irrespective of the framerate we request from FMLE. Instead, the bitrate doubles up if we try to reduce the bitrate to half.
I see same behavior with FMLE GUI / FMLEcmd.exe.
Is it just me or it is a known issue with FMLE with Intensity pro on windows?
Any pointers on how to go about fixing the problem will be much appreciated. Thanks.

I have exactly the same problem!
Please, add an fps limit feature to FMLE so that for example a 50fps device output can be lowered to 24fps (I can actually choose different fps but it still broadcasts with 50fps no matter what settings).
For now, does anyone know a kind of directshow capture proxy that captures the device (blackmagic intensity pro in my case) at 50fps, lowers the fps and puts it out (with no quality loss!) to FMLE (there selectable as a virtual camera)?
Thanks!

FMLE + blackmagic intensity pro : locally saved f4v files are choppy/jerky

Hello,
I'm successfully using the blackmagic intensity pro with FMLE for live streaming.
Unfortunately, although the streaming is perfect, the local f4v files recorded by FMLE during the streaming are not proper : they appear all jerky or choppy. (they are correctly post-processed by f4vpp)
From the strange effect on the video, I'd say the problem seems to be a interlace/progressive confusion in FMLE when recording locally, but why is the stream good...?
I tested both component or composite input of the bmip and it's the same. I've tried all interlacing/progressive settings possible in the BMIP input and on the camera too.
I precise that the same setup is working very well with DV input from the same camera (the purpose is to change for a non-DV camera with BMIP).
Is there somebody who faced that and solved it ?
Alexis

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Blackmagic Intensity Pro Video Card

I am in need of a HDTV/HDMI video out solution when playing back Quicktime movies in Logic Pro 8. Can anyone report success with the Blackmagic Intensity Pro card? Or are there better alternatives (besides Firewire out).
Thanks.

hi,
ihave bought it and am using it with my quadcore g5 2.5 ..
for now i switched back to canopus because its much more stable and not
"touchy" when i jump around in the timeline...
but this may have a lot of other reasons ..
with finalcut its very nice ans stable, i think the drivers have been written
to be compatible with fcp rather than logic.
I wantd to have the picture for an HD Movie in Llogic but now i prfe to have
stability,
bets regards,
andy

Blackmagic intensity pro not working. Has PCIe been broken with 10.7.4?

Hey there
I have a 2010 Mac Pro (5,1). 8 core. 24 gigs or RAM
I'm having trouble with my Blackmagic Intensity Pro PCI card. I've installed all drivers, tried all the different PCI ports and still my MP fails to recognise it. In the system preferences panel, all options are greyed out and a message says "No Settings Required".
At first I thought it'd be a faulty card, but then I tried the card on my friend's 2008 Mac Pro, and it works just fine. What could possibly be wrong? Are the PCI slots on my machine damaged? Is there anyway to test this?
I'm under a massive deadline, so any help will be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks,
Federico

Thanks for your replies. My friend's MP... I don't know what he's running (hes away at the moment). Prob not 10.7.4 but something before that.
And resetting the SMC: if that is just a matter of turning power off and disconnecting AC cable, wouldnt that automaitcally be done every time i unplug the MP to put the PCIe card in?
In any case, if its of any interest to anyone, the BM Intensity card is notoriously bad capturing VHS tapes (which is what I wanted to do). Frames drop everywhere, audio drifts out of sync wildy...
In the end, the best solution is to hookup the VHS deck to a DV cam and capture via firewire. Simple solution. Looks perfect

Blackmagic Intensity Pro is on the fritz

So, I just put together a nice new rig: new Mac Pro (see specs), 20" Cinema Display, FCP Studio 2, etc, and a Blackmagic Intensity Pro. I got the Blackmagic card so I can monitor HD footage on a 32" LG 1080p Flat-Panel LCD HDTV (32 LG70) . I've installed the Blackmagic Intensity pro, updated its drivers, and connected it to the LG via the most expensive Monster Cable HDMI/HDMI available.
My current FCP project uses HDV 1080i60 footage. I have chosen the Intensity HDTV 1080i 59.94 - HDV Easy Setup in FCP. Here is the problem: Sometimes the audio/video signal reaches the LG, and sometimes it doesn't. Whether it works or not doesn't seem to correspond to anything. It works one day, the next it doesn't--when no settings have changed. When it does not work, I get one of two messages on the blank LG screen: "Invalid Format" or "No Signal."
The only way to ensure that the signal reaches the LG is to open the computer's system settings, and under the Intensity option, where it says"Select Output Processing," choose one of the downconvert options. I can then monitor my footage, but in a crappy, downconverted state.
I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling the Blackmagic Intensity Pro's drivers multiple times, with no success. I've tested the card by connecting it to a smaller Samsung monitor, with no success. I've tried tweaking the settings in FCP, checking the HDMI connection, using different HDMI inputs on the LG, and so on and so forth for the past 48 hours. I have no clue what to do at this point. I'm basically at the mercy of this Blackmagic card that sometimes, for no apparent reason, kicks in and works, but mostly dysfunctions. Any help would be greatly appreciated, especially as Blackmagic support is closed on the weekends. Thanks.

Brad - the good news is that with some tweaking - you can get it to work.
The bad news is that it is very temperamental.
I've found that I can always get it to output 1920 x 1080 24p if I select 'capture now' with a video camera connected to HDMI input.
Sometimes, just doing that without one connected, will do the trick. Had to close FCP and then open it again.
Sometimes a reboot would 'fix' things.
Sometimes, I'd want to sacrifice a chicken and do a dance.
Lately, it has surprised me, and just worked.
If you play with Motion, you'll find that you may need to change from 59.94 the nearest other resolution (maybe 50i? I'm doing a backup now so can't look).
And Motion will play perfectly, and then all of a sudden, it will want 59.94 to synch.
I tried 4 different HDMI monitors, and a 40' Sharp HTMI TV. Was messed up the same way with ALL of them.
I tried an HDMI switch, didn't help.
I tried swapping out the card for a new one from Black Magic, zero change.
Try yelling at their tech support. They really should fix this. They would deny to me that 1080 24p would even work, very frustrating. Tech support has not been much help, and doesn't seem to be very aware of what's going on. I had to send them a small file to show them it would play it. Must be some higher level folks at their company somewhere.
They could sell a lot more if they'd enable color calibration on it - and they could do this as drivers are about the same as for their DecLink (one tech even said there was a way to do this, get DecLink drivers to work, but he wouldn't tell me, I'd love to find out how).
Good Luck!

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