Maximum HD installation in G4 450 Dual (Gigabit)

Is it possible to install more than 1 extra internal HD in the G4 450 Dual (Gigabit ethernet) model? I already have a 40 GB internal ATA drive installed, in addition to the main HD that came with the computer. I would like to install another 300 GB internal drive, for a total of 3 drives. Is this possible?
I know I would have to upgrade my OS to 10.2 and up to take advantage of the full capacity of the 300 GB drive. But I'm not even sure there is another place to install this drive. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Brett

You need a 3rd party PCI ATA-133 or SATA card to run any additional (or larger than 120GB, I believe) HDD's. You can install 4 drives in total; two stacked in the back, and one each in the middle & front slots. With the PCI card, each additional HDD can be Master on it's own bus (faster), since the cards all have two ports.
Sonnet is one manufacturer, ACARD another
xlr8yourmac.com is one source of info on a variety of controllers.
The original owners manual diagrams how to install extra drives, or you can look at Apple's customer installable parts links (you can see the two additional trays in the pics, they don't show them being used)(or a number of 3rd party online guides, just google it).

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