Maybe a bug in the enumerationof the TOC entries?

Hi,
I would like to have a table of contents (TOC) with enumerated chapters.
First I adapted the chapter styles to use indented lists. This provided me with headings such as:
1. Chapter
1.1 SubChapter
2 Chapter
Then I inserted a TOC. Unfortunately only the heading texts not their numbers were displayed. It looked a little bit like this:
Chapter
SubChapter
Chapter
As a workaround I added indented lists to the TOC style. This nearly worked. My only problem is that Pages always looses the indention parameter. It is first displayed correctly and after selecting something else the indention is reset to 1. This looks like this:
1. Chapter
2. SubChapter
3. Chapter
I have the impression that the indention is not set in the TOC style but in the associated heading style. This would clearly be a bug.
Any help/idea is greatly appreciated!
Best regards,
Torsten

I have the same problem. The only workaround I found: each time before exporting as PDF or printing I would select the TOC entries that need to be indented (starting with the most-indented one) and manually increase the indention by one. Fortunately, Pages automatically selects all TOC entries with the same paragraph style, so it's easy to select all entries that should have the same indention if you use different paragraph styles for the different levels.
I left some feedback at http://www.apple.com/feedback/pages.html.

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Thanks for your reply. Between the page number and the entry is an en-space.
I started with these settings:
I then changed the left aligned tab to a right aligned tab:
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Go to the source of a TOC entry

I know that I can use the Bookmarks panel to go to the page source of a TOC entry. Is there a way to go to the paragraph source so that the text cursor will go to the exact paragraph that is the source of the TOC entry?

jay fresno wrote:
Petteri,
As you suggested, I created a keyboard shortcut for the Hyperlinks:Go To Destination command.
However, my TOC entries are not listed in the Hyperlinks panel; they are listed in the Bookmarks panel. So, I'm not sure how the shortcut will help to go to the destination of a TOC entry, or how the shortcut differs from selecting the same command from the flyout menu of the panel.
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Go the the source of a TOC entry

InDesign can navigate to the page source of a TOC entry using the Bookmarks panel. But there doesn't seem to be a way to navigate to the exact paragraph source of the TOC entry.
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Petteri,
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However, my TOC entries are not listed in the Hyperlinks panel; they are listed in the Bookmarks panel. So, I'm not sure how the shortcut will help to go to the destination of a TOC entry, or how the shortcut differs from selecting the same command from the flyout menu of the panel.
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TOC entries are disconnected from their sources. They are not hyperlinks. Within InDesign, there's no way to jump from a TOC entry to its source, as there is within FrameMaker
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HTH
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Peter
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Okay, lets not argue which one is better.. when a tool is there .. then there are some reasons to be there...But the points raised by Jorg and me are really very annoying. Overall I agree with both yours and Jorg's points (and I did not think it was an argument...merely sharing our observations with each other (;^)
The OWB tool is not as mature as Informatica. However, Informatica has no foothold in the database engine itself and as I mentioned earlier, is still "on the outside looking in..." The efficiency and power of set-based activity versus row-based activity is substantial.
Looking at it from another way lets take a look at Microstrategy as a way of observing a technical strategy for product development. Microstrategy focused on the internals (the engine) and developed it into the "heavy-lifting" tool in the industry. It did this primarily by leveraging the power of the backend...the database and the hosting server. For sheer brute force, it was champion of the day. It was less concerned with the pretty presentation and more concerned with getting the data out of the back-end so the user didn't have to sit there for a day and wait. Now they have begun to focus on the presentation part.
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I am into the third data warehousing/data migration project and my previous two have been on Informatica (3 years on it).I respect your experience and your opinions...you are not a first timer. The tasks we have both had to solve and how we solved them with these tools are not necessarily the same. Could be similar in instances; could be quite different.
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...thats what most managers do .. without even looking how in turn by selecting such a tool they make the life tough for the developers.Been there many times. Few non-technical managers understand the process of tool evaluation and selection and the value a good process adds to the project. Nor do they understand the implications of making a bad choice (cost, productivity, maintainability).
The functionality of OWB stands way below Informatica.If you are primarily a GUI-based implementer that is true. However, I have often found that when I have been brought in to fix performance problems with Informatica implementations that the primary problem is usually with the way that the developer implemented it. Too often I have found that the developer understands how to implement logic in the GUI component (the Designer/Maps and Sessions) with a complete lack of understanding of how all this activity will impact load performance (they don't understand how the database engine works.) For example, a strong feature in Informatica is the ability to override the default SQL statement generated by Informatica. This was a smart design decision on Informatica's part. I have frequently had to go into the "code" and fix bad joins, split up complex operations, and rip out convoluted logic to get the maps to perform within a reasonable load window. Too often these developers are only viewing the problem through the "window" of the tool. They are not stepping back and look at the problem in the context of the overall architecture. In part Informatica forces them to do this. Another possible factor is they probably don't know better.
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Microstrategy until recently had been suffering from that same condition of not allowing the developer to create the actual query). OWB engineers need to rethink their strategy on overriding the SQL.
The functionality of OWB stands way below Informatica.In some ways yes. If you do a head-to-head comparison of the GUI then yes. In other ways OWB is better (Informatica does not measure up when you compare it with all of the architectural features that the Oracle database engine offers). They need to fix the bugs and annoyances though.
.. but even the GUI of Informatica is better than OWB and gives the developer some satisfaction of working in it.Believe me I feel your pain. On the other hand, I have suffered from Informatica bugs. Ever do a port from one database eingine to another just to have it convert everything into multi-byte? Ever have it re-define your maps to parallel processing threads when you didn't ask it to?
Looking at the technical side of things I can give you one fine example ... there is no function in Oracle doing to_integer (to_number is there) but Informatica does that ... Hmm-m-m...sorry, I don't get the point.
The style of ETL approach of Informatica is far more appealing.I find it unnecessarily over-engineered.
OWB has two advantages : It is basically free of cost and it has a big brother in Oracle.
It is basically free of cost...When you are another "Microsoft", you can throw your weight around. The message for Informatica is "don't bite the hand that feeds you." Bad decisions at the top.
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