Missing parent members in 3.1 Outline Extractor

All, I am using OLAP Underground 3.1 Outline extractor. The server is windows 2003 and I am using Hyperion Essbase 6.5.7 I am taking a dimension that has been updatred and manipulated and trying to get it into 50 other databases in a automated process. I have built the automated process but the problem is with the outline that is extracted using 3.1 outline extractor, it is missing several parent members. This dimension has 27,598 members. Thanks Anthony

I was running into the same issue on dimensions with a large number of members. If I remember correctly it is a known bug that they plan to address in some future release of the Outline Extractor.

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I am attempting to extract the attributes from one cube to load into another cube. Some of our attributes are at the level 0 and others are at level 1. We have many parents that have one child, essentially an implied share.
When I run the outline extractor, the implied shared parent attributes are assigned to the child. When you have a implied share scenario, is there a way to get the attributes extracted to the proper level?
Forgot to mention... We are 9.3.1.
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Edited by: GlennH on Jan 31, 2011 8:40 AM

Hi Glenn,
Send email to [email protected] and my OlapUnderground support guys can take a look at it..
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Applied OLAP, Inc

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2. Delete the Level-0 members that satisfy the above condition. I must verify the list from 1 above before deleting the members.
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Message was edited by:
user616142

Thank you for your response. Being a novice, I must
say that I am quite hesitant in taking steps that I
am unfamiliar with, esp when dealing with a
production cube that takes about 6hrs to load when I
have a limited timeframe! However with additional
guidance (see my kp>comments below), I may be able to
try your method.No problem, we were all novices once upon a time ;-)
> - export the outline using the Olap Underground
Outline Extractor
(http://www.appliedolap.com/default.asp?ID=51)
p> Can I export the outline to just any location as I
believe it will simply be a text file?Correct.
> - do the necessary clean up to the exported
outline text file
kp> If this is the same delete & rename steps I want
done, then I need help on some kind of script that
will allow me to do this as it involves 1000s of L0
members. (I am also considering the tips from Glenn)
> - make a backup of your cube
kp> I did. Just curious - the L0 members that I need
deleted have actually been added via a change I made
to the dim build rule. I had saved the cube folder
before running the rule. I would normally restore the
entire folder so that all components are in sync.
Just one doubt: can I copy/paste the changed dim
build & data load rules to another location, restore
the cube from backup, and then simply copy/paste the
saved rule files to replace the old ones? This will
save me from having to delete the new L0 members.My suggestion is to tear down and rebuild based upon the edited outline export. If you find it easier to work in the outline directly, or to modify your load rules, that is your choice.
> - export L0 data in columns from cube
kp> Will the same Olap Underground Outline Extractor
utility enable me to do this?No, this is a standard operation in Essbase. You should be able to do an export either from a MaxL session or from the console. Check the docs for details.
> - build a load rule to load the export (so you
can ignore errors from records that will no longer
load)
kp> Is there anything I need to be aware of here as I
must get all the data reloaded onto original cube.If the members to be deleted have no data, then there should be no errors. If they do have data but the members will not be rebuilt, you will have to redirect where the data should load to. That will either mean editing the load data to point to the new member names, using alternate aliases, or recreating the load data for the new member names. Hard to be more specific as you situation may vary.
> - reset and rebuild the cube using the edited
outline export file
kp> I am assuming I can manually delete the parent
members and then run the rule based on the export
file to rebuild the dimensions?Yes, the idea is to edit the outline text file to meet your new requirements and then to build the cube again. You can either manually clear the dimension of all members or rebuild with the revised outline file using a Remove Unspecified option load rule.
>
Thank you for your suggestions.
Regards.Hope it helps. Be sure to document the actual steps you use for the next time you have to do this (and there will be a next time, trust me ;-)

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select 1 HrchyId,'Manager'    Role, 'Scott' Name, 1 Hrchyid_sq from dual    union all
select 2 HrchyId,'Supervisor' Role, 'Mary' Name, 2 Hrchyid_sq from dual    union all
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(role[for rn from HrchyId[1]+1 to nxt[1]-HrchyId[1] increment 1]= case when cv(rn)=2 then 'No s
upervisor'
when cv(rn)=3 then 'No Clerk' end,
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1     Manager          Scott     1
2     Supervisor     Mary     2
3     Clerk          Henry     3
4     Clerk          Tyson     3
5     Manager          Lee     1
5     "No supervisor"          2
6     Clerk          Murry     3
7     Manager          Kirk     1
7     "No supervisor"          2
7     No Clerk          3
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Ramana.

I used this sample data:
insert into hrch_test
select 1 HrchyId,'Manager'    Role, 'Scott' Name, 1 Hrchyid_sq from dual    union all
select 2 HrchyId,'Supervisor' Role, 'Mary' Name, 2 Hrchyid_sq from dual    union all
select 3 HrchyId,'Clerk'      Role, 'Henry' Name, 3 Hrchyid_sq from dual    union all
select 3 HrchyId,'Clerk'      Role, 'Tyson' Name, 4 Hrchyid_sq from dual    union all
select 1 HrchyId,'Manager'    Role, 'Lee'   Name, 5 Hrchyid_sq from dual    union all
select 3 HrchyId,'Clerk'      Role, 'Murry' Name, 6 Hrchyid_sq from dual    union all
select 1 HrchyId,'Manager'    Role, 'Kirk' Name, 7 Hrchyid_sq from dual    union all
select 4 HrchyId,'Jr Clerk'   Role, 'Tony' Name, 8 Hrchyid_sq from dual    union all
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select 3 HrchyId,'Clerk'      Role, 'Jack' Name, 13 Hrchyid_sq from dualand if I'm not misunderstanding the OP's requirements this thing should do it.
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            when hrchyid = 3 and role is null then 'NO CLERK'
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iter[1] = root_id[iteration_number],
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         1 Manager              Scott                         1          3          3
         2 Supervisor           Mary                          2          3          3
         3 Clerk                Henry                         3          3          3
         1 NO MANAGER                                         4          4
         2 NO SUPERVISOR                                      4          4
         3 Clerk                Tyson                         4          4          3
         1 Manager              Lee                           5          6          3
         2 NO SUPERVISOR                                      6          6
         3 Clerk                Murry                         6          6          3
         1 Manager              Kirk                          7          8          4
         2 NO SUPERVISOR                                      8          8
         3 NO CLERK                                           8          8
         4 Jr Clerk             Tony                          8          8          4
         1 Manager              Alf                           9         10          3
         2 NO SUPERVISOR                                     10         10
         3 Clerk                Dana                         10         10          3
         1 NO MANAGER                                        12         12
         2 NO SUPERVISOR                                     12         12
         3 Clerk                Chris                        11         12          4
         4 Jr Clerk             Pam                          12         12          4
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         1 NO MANAGER                                        13         13
         2 NO SUPERVISOR                                     13         13
         3 Clerk                Jack                         13         13          3
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SQL>

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