MIXED COSTING Issue
Hi,
Business process :- Importing RAW material 100% , which is used for Export upto 90% and 10% Used for Domestic sale . cost estimate should be required for both senerio Export as well Demostic sales ,
I Was configured mixed costing for that i have maintained Costing version, production version, valuation type for domestic as wel Export price will be separately maintained but while running costing system update below
1) Current standard cost estimate costing version 1
2) Cost estimate w/o material master reference costing version 2
Business requirement is cost esimate will be Current standard cost estimate for both costing version.
could you help me what mistake i made
Regards,
Vinu
Hi Young,
Thanks for the reply
i have maintaine the same whicj u specified above , i have linked valuation variant 001 for standard cost estimate PPC1 system.and system updating std cost estimate is both level as well both version
1) Current standard cost estimate costing version 1
2) Cost estimate w/o material master reference costing version 2
Business requirement is cost esimate will be Current standard cost estimate for both costing version.
business requirement is only one standard cost estimate
Regards.
Vinu
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We are using mix costing T.Code:CK91N for Depots Standard cost estimate. Based on my retio T.Code CK94 system calc. std. cost well but I need to add Additive cost to depot stock.
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Can u give config doc or steps how to do mixed costing - to do Standard Cost estimateHI,
see
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60/helpdata/en/7e/cb938143a311d189ee0000e81ddfac/frameset.htm
Mixed Costing.
BR Christian -
A product which is manufactured in-house has more than one production version. Each production version has its own BOM and Recipe. To calculate a blended standard cost, we will use mixed costing functionality and assign ratio to each production version. However we want to copy the BOM usage 1 (production) to BOM usage 6 (costing) and make changes only for costing purpose.
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SivaHi
Welcome to SDN
You dont have option to specify the Valuation type in BOM i.e. in the BOM of B, you can only specify A as the Input material... You cant specify C1 or C2
Hence, as a result, costing uses only the average price of C1 and C2 which is maintained in the Mat Master as a PLanned price
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Hello,
Need some info on mixed costng.What exacltly is this.How is it used and any config required for same.
RegardsHello
You can use this function when you
use different production processes to manufacture a product
use different sources for procuring a material
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Check the link for more info:
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_02/helpdata/en/34/f4af26be4411d1898f0000e8214595/frameset.htm
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