Mixed network

Hello
I wonder if the good and the great here would mind giving a little bit of advice.
Where is it at when it comes to NAS or shared drives on a mixed network. At home we have PCs mostly but I have just bought a new MBP which I think is fantastic.
I would like to use Time Machine to back it up and ideally do that over WiFi to a NAS or cheap server. I know that I have to use a Mac formatted drive to use Time Machine but is there any way to set this up so that PCs can use the NAS.
Alternatively is there a way to let the PCs see a folder on my MBP and back up to that and then from the MBP to a NAS.
Finally any suggestions of a suitable NAS. I want it headless and able to connect over WiFi because I want to hide it away in a loft or something to avoid being robbed.
Thanks
R

As I suggested there are some NAS systems compatible with AFP shares that could work for you, but not with TM. There are many excellent backup utility options that work across networks:
Backup Software Recommendations
My personal recommendations are (order is not significant):
1. Retrospect Desktop (Commercial)
2. Synchronize! Pro X (Commercial)
3. Synk (Backup, Standard, or Pro)
4. Deja Vu (Shareware)
5. Carbon Copy Cloner (Donationware)
6. SuperDuper! (Commercial)
7. Intego Personal Backup (Commercial)
8. Data Backup (Commercial)
9. SilverKeeper 2.0 (Freeware)
10. Tri-Backup (Commercial)
11. Apple Backup (requires a .Mac account with Apple both to get the software and to use it.)
Apple's Backup is a full backup tool capable of also backing up across multiple media such as CD/DVD. However, it cannot create bootable backups. It is primarily an "archiving" utility.
For help identifying some possibly suitable NAS systems visit Bare Feats and Xlr8 Your Mac.

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3. Backup for both systems that is air connected in a secure place.
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1. TC with internal disc shared and USB attached printer shared.
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I can find several solutions for a Windows only environment- is this a huge hole in the idea of using Mac's in an office situation?
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A number of office-ranger copier MFD's have the ability to scan to a shared folder across the network using SMB or FTP as a protocol. This protocol support allows you to configure shared folders on an individuals Mac or PC and 'push' scan a document directly to the computer as an image (such as TIFF or JPEG) or text (PDF using built-in OCR). This function of pushing gets around the limitation of finding a pull scanner that has Mac software. Also, being networked, it does not have to rely on the sharing device being turned on.
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On the Canon's this function is called Universal Send. It is most likely called something else on other brands. But the term 'push scanning to SMB' would mean something to any sales rep flogging an office product.
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