Most relevant test score for PPro CS5 to run on notebook?

Hi, I hope I didn't miss this topic anywhere in the forum. Since I am in the market for a new notebook to occasionally edit 3-5min clips of panasonic HMC 150 AVCHD material (most of the time just office work), I was wondering what the best and still affordable notebook (EUR 1500-1800) would be. Apart for a wide discussion of system requirements and recommendations I couldn't find what would be the most relevant test score to assess how well PPro CS5 is going to work. Some say you need to get a notebook for EUR 3000, some say one for EUR 1200 would still work - I guess it depends on how much you are going to edit and how much time you have. I was curious if there was such a score that serves as a guideline. For example, below you find such test scores for a Sony notebook. What would be the most informative as to whether and how well PPro CS5 will work. Any information is greatly appreciated.
btw: I would appreciate recommendations on these two notebooks
Acers Aspire TimelineX 4820TG-624G16Mnks
Core i7-620M 2x 2.66GHz • 4096MB • 160GB SSD • DVD+/-RW DL • ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 1024MB • 4x USB 2.0/Gb LAN/WLAN 802.11abgn/Bluetooth • HDMI • 5in1 Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS Pro/xD) • Webcam (1.3 Megapixel) • Multi-Touch Trackpad • 14.1" WXGA glare LED TFT (1366x768)
Sony Vaio VPC-Z12
Core i5-520M 2x 2.40GHz • 4096MB (2x 2048MB) • 128GB Dual SSD • DVD+/-RW DL • NVIDIA GeForce GT330M 1024MB und Intel GMA HD (IGP) • 3x USB 2.0/Gb LAN/WLAN 802.11abgn/Bluetooth • HDMI • UMTS/HSDPA • ExpressCard/34 Slot
Thanks!
simpsonix
Benchmark: PCMark05
k.A.
Benchmark: PCMark Vantage
12.114 Punkte
Benchmark: Sysmark 2007
k.A.
Benchmark: 3DMark01
32.989 Punkte
Benchmark: 3DMark03
k.A.
Benchmark: 3DMark05
k.A.
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Benchmark: Cinebench (1 CPU)
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Benchmark: Cinebench (2 CPUs)
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Benchmark: UT2003
k.A.
Benchmark: Aquamark 2.3
k.A.
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274 fps
Benchmark: CCS native
272 fps

thank you very much for your answer. Do you think the following notebook would be suitable for occasional editing of 3-4min clips (we have got a desktop editing machine with i7, 12gb, nvidia gts250, and 4 7200 barracuda hdds)? so basically it should only be able to work as a backup editing machine in case two clips have to be finished at the same time. since there is only one hdd, I could put an sdd into it as well. and I could upgrade to 16gb ram. the reason, why this particular notebook is interesting for me, is that through a student discount I can get it for EUR 1,700 instead of EUR 2,500 (cheapest price on the market for this setup). I am aware that it won't be as fast as my desktop (which works spledidly with avchd!), but it should be faster than a retired snail overtaking during his afternoon nap ;-)
I would really appreciate your opinion on that one or from anybody else that has particular experiences with this notebook and avchd!
thanks
simpsonix
HP EliteBook 8540w
Prozessor: Intel® Core™ i7-740QM Prozessor
Takt: 1,73 GHz, 6 MB L3 Cache, bis zu 2,93 GHz mit Intel Turbo-Boost-Technologie
HD: 500 GB SATA (7200rpm) mit HP 3D DriveGuard
RAM: 2 x 4 GB (DDR3 1333 MHz), upgradeable to 16 GB RAM
Display: 15,6" (16:9) Full-HD anti-glare Display mit LED-Hintergrundbeleuchtung (1920 x 1080); Umgebungslichtsensor & HP Nightlight
Graphik: NVIDIA Quadro FX 1800M mit 1 GB dediziert GDDR5 RAM
WWAN: WWAN Modul nicht integriert, im nachhinein aufrüstbar
Batterie: HP 8-Zellen Long-Life-Akku (68 WHr) (3 Jahre Garantie)
optisches Laufwerk: DVD+/–RW, Blu-Ray Player/Writer, SuperMulti Dual Layer mit LightScribe Technologie (Upgrade Bay, second disk drive)
Kamera: 2 Megapixel Webcam
Gewicht: ca. 2,9 kg
Garantie: 3 Jahre PickUp & Return Garantie (3-3-0)

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The second lesson I learned is get a big case! This tiny HP case is cute and all that but it lacks the room inside for much internal hardware. It's a midsize tower case - If I were doing it from scratch I'd buy a fullsize tower case.
So why didn't I? I got a great deal on the 24GB of ram from HP and the 1GHZ pricessor. I paid less for a maxed out system than I could buy the ram and the processor for due to discounts. Unfortunately HP never thought anyone would stuff a corsair 850 and GTX 480 inside where their itty bitty stuff once was.
If you have a big enough case (floor standing full height) and a big enough power supply (6 SLI) 1500 W you could probably make a decent SLI system with 2 GTX480 pcbs (you realize thats 1024 cuda cores, ,right?)
Think Big and you won't be using drive bays to stuff power cables into so you can get the lid on the system. As others have said, asus, bfg, evga all make good equipment. I found a sweet deal on the evga which is the only reason I went that direction. Sweet deals change in one week, so be sure to buy what you want when the price dips. If you are planning a real SLI system, buy BOTH cards form the same MFGR at the same time
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