Motion projects appear darker in FCP.

motion projects appear darker in FCP.
Any clue what could I be doing wrong for this to happen ?
L.
dual xeon 3ghz Mac OS X (10.4.8)

I tried to switch between all the various options (render RGB, 8bit yuv, ....) of the render. But did not notice any significant amelioration if any at all.
here's an expample of how he quicktime player renders the image as intended and fcp doesnt.
http://homepage.mac.com/laurentbriet/.Movies/motionFCPcolorchange.png
L.
dual xeon 3ghz, nvida 7300, 3Gb ram Mac OS X (10.4.8)

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An example is at http://homepage.mac.com/alan.stonebridge/motionfcpissue.png
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