Motion tracking issues

I am doing a rather difficult (for a beginner) sky replacement on a panning shot.
My first issue regards rotation. I've selected position and rotation for my tracking points, but after applying them to my sky layer, it becomes flipped upside down (rotated 190 degrees) and also out of position. Correcting the position is as easy as selecting all the position keyframes and dragging it to the correct starting point, but for rotation this doesn't work (it sets everything to one value). I want the first keyframe to be 0 degrees and for it to follow on from there with the tracking.
Secondly, because the camera pans quite far, I need to change the tracking points midway through as there are no two points I can use that are in the entire shot. Similar to the first problem, I find that when I do this it resets the position of the sky layer, sending it out of place and upside-down. I guess what I'm looking for is a way to apply the motion tracking to the sky layer without losing its initial position or rotation (or any other value for that matter).
Thanks!

Thanks a lot, I do have mocha but have never used it as I'm still in the early learning stage of AE. I'll watch through a couple mocha tutorials though and see where that gets me.
Regarding the matte, I was intending not to use one as there is so much foliage detail it seemed impossible to key the sky out effectively. Instead I was just going to multiply the sky layer and apply a gradient. I've attached screenshots showing the start and end of the shot, before and after I've done my best on it. If you know a better way I can do it, I'd be very grateful.
Cheers.
Source beginning:
Source end:
With sky layer:

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Hi. First and probably only post here. I've got a bit of an issue....
I'm trying to create "snapshots" in my video that are created from masks which are then motion tracked and remain stationary. Here's a video of what i'm talking about... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OhVAduuJc8
The problem I'm running into is that after i motion track the layer, select a null object as the target, duplicate the video layer, mask the object, freeze frame, and pair it to a null layer, the object does not remain stationary as the ones in the video do. Instead it moves WITH the null object and I cant figure out why. I've gotten a tutorial from the guy who made the video, however it's private so i don't know if you guys will be able to see it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY0QLrMCcGM
Either way, i followed the tutorial exactly and still to no avail. Are my settings messed up or what exactly is going on? Ive successfully done this project before but now that i'm using CS5, i'm running into these issues. If anyone has any advice i'd gladly try it out and return with the results.
Thanks so much for trying to help me out.

Yeah the null is still moving. Will freezing it lock the mask into place while still allowing the footage to play through? And how would i go about "freezing the null"?
I just dont understand how this person does it in the tutorial, and the mask remains in place. I know you probably can't watch the tutorial cause the user has it set as private, but as far i know his mask stays in place, but uses the null (while still moving) as a tracking device to keep the mask from floating out of control as the camera moves through the shot.
Sorry if I'm making this rather confusing. It's difficult to explain.
Maybe it might be easier to explain how you would obtain the result from the video I've posted? Keep in mind I dont have CameraTracker.

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where is the motion tracking feacture in PE11

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Thanks, I did set the "Render" to "Best", hit Analyze again, saved the file, went back to my FCP project which contained the file/clip, had to render again.....but got the same results, might be a touch improved, can't really tell. Maybe I'll start over and just cover the entire flat screen tv w/ the video to ensure that none of the white image from the tv seeps around the edges??

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Anyone resolved this issue? What is the "catalog". All I did was import a file (1080/60) and get started. Everything else seems to work fine.

Assuming you're not shooting in 3D mode, I'm not sure why this is happening.
As long as you're not shooting in 3D mode, this is a standard AVCHD camcorder, which I've done lots of motion tracking with.
Since you manually copied the file from SD card rather than getting the media using Premiere Elements' tools, it is quite possible you grabbed the wrong file. Try this: Plug your camcorder (with SD card in the cam) into your computer via USB and set the camcorder to VTR/play. Then go to Premiere Elements' Add Media/From Flip or Camera and use that tool to get the video from the camera to your computer.
This should resolve your invalid catalog entry issue.

Motion tracking help

Hi all, hope everyone had a great Xmas.
I am having an issue with motion tracking and I will try my best to explain my problem as clearly as I can
Here is what I am trying to achieve.
Please visit this youtube video Canon Powershot SX30 IS -140X Moon Zoom Test - YouTube
and this is a still shot I just quickly edited in fireworks to show you the effect I am trying to achieve
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/3148/motion.png
As you can see in the video, some parts of the moon go out of screen in some shots and the camera also zooms in and out of the moon, so I need the word "Business" and "logo" to increase and decrease in size in proportion with the moons size ( camera zooming in and out ) whilst remaining at the exact point on the moon ( as if the word "business" was built on the surface of the moon )
Which tutorial might help me? or if someone would be kind enough to explain how to do this, it would be greatly appreciated
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twim1 wrote:
As you can see in the video, some parts of the moon go out of screen in some shots and the camera also zooms in and out of the moon, so I need the word "Business" and "logo" to increase and decrease in size in proportion with the moons size ( camera zooming in and out ) whilst remaining at the exact point on the moon ( as if the word "business" was built on the surface of the moon )
Which tutorial might help me? or if someone would be kind enough to explain how to do this, it would be greatly appreciated
Don't even bother to work with that video. Reshoot it. Next time, use a tripod and make sure the shot is consistently exposed, which at the moment, it is not. You apparently haven't even considered the problems trying to match your AE work with the camera auto iris.
And since he put it so well, I'd also like to quote Bogesian from a different thread, responding to someone who also knew little of AE, and wanted to learn what he or she thought would be a simple trick:
"After Effects is a kitchen. It's not a cookbook. And there is much more to using this metaphor than putting a frozen entrée into the microwave.
You have everything you need, it's just not given to you as a recipe for that specific effect.
The AE help system and the many tutorials that came with After Effects will show you how to animate text.
You will need to learn how to use motion tracking in the same way.
You may need to learn how to use the planar tracking system, Mocha, which is not for the faint of heart.
Like learning to make soufflé, you need the basic tools, fresh ideas, high quality ingredients and sufficient fundamental experience with all of the toolsm, techniques and ingredients. You will fail many times. Once you've discovered certain truths and universal, reliably repeatable steps, anything is possible within the kitchen.
Suggest you invest in ayof the many AE books by Trish and Chris Meyer or visit their website for several hours before you attempt to use the more advanced resources you can easily find online."

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The I hit (Command M) to "Make Movie" and render my clip out. I use "Best Settings" and render it out, the issue here is that when it is rendering, my blur becomes out of place and does NOT follow the logo like it should be. It jumps around, it dosent completely leave the logo, and jump all over the screen, but it makes the logo clealy visible. But it somewhat follows the logo across the screen in a horizintal matter, but does not stay in place like how the motion tracker/I set it to be.
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Motion basically looks at the the source footage and it's timing (in the timing section of the Inspector) when analyzing for tracking. Filters are basically ignored by the tracker. Retiming actions, like time re-mapping, or retiming behaviors that are applied before the tracker should be used by the tracker. Did you change the timing after doing the tracking? If so this would also require you to re-track the shot. Understanding that you found a workaround, describing the effects you applied would help to explain why you ran into problems.
Cheers!

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You will have a scene of maybe a street in the city, the camera is looking forward and moving, you have 3d block text that seems to be just hovering there up off the ground but looks like a real physical 3d object in the shot as the camera moves around.
I have been looking up tutorials for this in After effects on youtube but they always use other non adobe products as well such as boujou or 3ds max, I am wondering if it is possible to make the same shot with only adobe products. If so, what whould I use other than after effects. And lastly, can anyone point me to a good free tutorial using only adobe programs if there is one out there?
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I am wondering if it is possible to make the same shot with only adobe products.
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Using Windows 8 64 bit Premiere Elements 12 , motion tracker gives me the folloing error; The media file seems to have an invalid entry in the catalog, please rename it for use.

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Lonesomeless
Thanks for the reply.
I checked the link that I posted back in post 3 of your thread. It is working with at least Firefox and Chrome.
ATR Premiere Elements Troubleshooting: PE12: Motion Tracking/What To Use To Track Object?
What browser are you using?
The blog post contains significant information related to Premiere Elements 12 Motion Tracking. But, if you cannot access it for some reason, then we will need to troubleshoot via communications in the thread.
SG has asked if you are able to create Motion Tracking effect using one of the graphics included with the program. We will watch for your response to him on that question. Please include in your message to him whether you can obtain your file to track the object using Organizer Tab or Project Assets routes as well as Graphics Tab.
The following is an excerpt from the blog post referenced....
SOLUTION
Various tutorials and online comments have pointed to places other than Graphics Tab where objects can be selected and used to track the moving object in the video when the Motion Tracking workspace is opened in the Expert or Quick workspace.
Organizer Tab, Expert or Quick workspace to access Elements Organizer 12. Cascade Windows and drag a video or photo from Elements Organizer into the yellow track box of Motion Tracking workspace.
Project Assets, Expert workspace. Drag text, video, or photos from opened Project Assets into the yellow track box of Motion Tracking workspace.
Graphics Tab, Expert or Quick workspace. Create a png file (graphic) or prtl file (text) and place it in Clip Arts in the Program Files of the program to have a permanent resource. Then from Graphics Tab, drag the newly created graphic or text object into yellow track box of Motion Tracking workspace.
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ATR

Motion tracking effect mask not working

I've no trouble with normal motion tracking, adding clip art to it and having the clip art track, etc. But according to the help in PE8, effects masks are also supposed to be able to be used. According to help:
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1. Select a clip in the Timeline or Sceneline.
2. Select the clip, and click to enable the Motion Tracking mode.
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The question is in the headline: Is there a good motion tracking plug-in for FCP-X?
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I know of no plug-ins for FCP-X that will do this. Surely there's one out there.
And since you can't just export a sequence to Motion (like you could in FCP 7), how would one achieve this in FCP-X?

R&B wrote:
… And since you can't just export a sequence to Motion …
instead of selecting a clip or sequence in FCPX, you set the in/out points in the Export/Send it to Compressor dialog.
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aaaand finally re-imported into FCPX.
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I'm an video editor and I use 3D Motion Tracking a lot but recently every time I use it, it comes up with an error and says crash in progress,
It never used to do it and I can't seem to find any solutions to fix it.
Computer Specs:
Manufacturer: Toshiba
Model: Notebook
Processor: AMD E1-2100 APU with Radeon(TM) HD Graphics 1.00 GHz
Installed Memory: 4.00 GB (3.45 GB Usable)
System type: 64-bit Operating System, x64-based processor
So here's how I get to the problem. (I'll try provide as much detail as possible)
I import a mp4/avi file into After Effects,
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Duration = 30 seconds
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Advanced
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(Boxes Underneath all unchecked)
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Try rendering an image sequence from your original footage then load that into AE and Camera Track the image sequence. Use the AME to or AE to render a JPEG or PNG image sequence:
It's important to know that some footage cannot be Camera Tracked. In order for camera tracking to work there must be a significant amount of fixed geometry in the scene. For example, if you have a shot of open water like this it cannot be Camera Tracked:
This shot also cannot be camera tracked successfully because most of the frame is moving:
If transcoding or converting the shot to an image sequence does not fix the problem and you don't get a frame rate mis match warning then you could have possibly not given enough memory to other applications in you memory and multi processor settings. Keep memory allocation for other apps in even numbers and make sure that you have not starved the dynamic link server that does camera tracking. If you have the memory 4GB to other apps is absolutely the minimum. If you only have 4GB then give 2 to AE and 2 to other apps.

Problem with motion tracking

I have Premiere Elements 12 64 bit on a windows 8 machine. I am trying to use the motion tracking feature. I am able to select an object to track and the resulting yellow rectangle follows the object as it moves through the scene. The problem I have occurs when I try to attach a graphic to the item being tracked; the graphic will not anchor itself to the yellow rectangle when dragged onto it, the rectangle does not turn blue. It appears the graphic is added as a static layer and does not follow the object. I have tried it using various video formats with the same result.

mac2474
Thanks for the demo. Very helpful.
I am still not sure if it is the lack of contrast that is not giving you the best results. I tried to use a model with a light gray object to be tracked against a light blue background. Or, if it is those speech bubbles in contrast to other graphic types that are creating problems.
But, it is more than that. You did not see that yellow/orange box turn blue when you approached it with the speech bubble.
I found essentially one on one tracking when I used other than speech bubbles. But, whether speech bubbles or not, my yellow/orange box turned blue with the approach of the speech bubble or other graphic.
Here is what I would like you to try
a. Repeat what you did, but do not use the speech bubble. Use one of the other graphics under Graphics, maybe the carrot.
b. Repeat what you did , but use as source an object with more contrast against its background.
The main thing we have to work on is getting the yellow/orange to blue change as an indicator of what is supposed to be happening. Also, just back tracking to correct is not enough. If a try does not work, start with newly imported files to avoid any unexpected variables until we work out the situation.
Thanks.
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